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sumfoo1
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recomended
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1k-1.5k floor standing pair

(7.1 to come but not yet)

12/31/2006 9:02:16 PM

davelen21
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polk lsi15

12/31/2006 9:41:06 PM

sumfoo1
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were way more balanced

basically

polk has been ruled out

nob best buy klipsch maybe?
and infinity etc.

but polk sounded like shit not very balanced and too mid-strong

i listened to the rti 12 and the lsi15 today and wasn't impressed.

12/31/2006 9:48:10 PM

davelen21
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ok do you want just something that is loud, or something that sounds good?

[Edited on December 31, 2006 at 9:50 PM. Reason : ^lol]

12/31/2006 9:49:26 PM

sumfoo1
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sounds good, clear for music and home theater

12/31/2006 9:50:16 PM

davelen21
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i would go with polk

what are you going to power them with?

[Edited on December 31, 2006 at 9:56 PM. Reason : maybe they didnt know what they were doing]

12/31/2006 9:52:06 PM

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BP7004

12/31/2006 10:25:43 PM

sumfoo1
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they were on a yammi amp w/ audio processing turned off... they were out of phase at first but i fixed that... and the mids only got stronger.

12/31/2006 10:33:46 PM

davelen21
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lol, well i guess thats about as good as it gets at best buy

1/1/2007 11:54:29 AM

sumfoo1
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that was at tweeter.

btw i wanted the processing turned off so i could hear the nature of the speaker.

1/1/2007 2:04:42 PM

pistolp500
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get some linn ninka's. http://www.knekt.com/spec_sound/product_display.cfm?ProductID=126&activeNavBar=products&activeSubNavBar=Playback
you can check them out at audio advice

1/1/2007 5:02:45 PM

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http://www.crutchfield.com/S-wzc6rTCERhR/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=12000&I=108CASM7B

1/1/2007 5:45:24 PM

slut
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^fuck that

1/1/2007 5:50:55 PM

BlackDog
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have you heard them? exactly, shut the fuck up.

1/1/2007 6:04:23 PM

sumfoo1
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Cascade 7 cascade 9
100-20k Hz 80-20k Hz

not to mention no place around here carries them and i'm not buying speakers i can't demo first especially when they don't even play to 50hz w/o a sub talk about a strong mid.


i do like the infinity beta series though.

1/1/2007 6:33:48 PM

BlackDog
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Who buys 1k-1.5k in floor standing speakers but doesnt have a stand alone sub?

1/1/2007 8:51:02 PM

davelen21
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yeah i think those infinity speakers are definitely designed with a modern surround setup in mind

[Edited on January 1, 2007 at 9:13 PM. Reason : but even then they dont look that good on paper]



[Edited on January 1, 2007 at 9:14 PM. Reason : hey what model yamaha do you have sumfoo?]

1/1/2007 9:09:01 PM

sumfoo1
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They used yamaha i'm debating between denon and yamaha as i want hdmi 1080 pass through
(i'll still uses a separate digital audio connector)


http://www.crutchfield.com/S-mRSuU41RyVw/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&I=033AV2807B
or
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-mRSuU41RyVw/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&I=022RXV1600

1/1/2007 10:49:41 PM

davelen21
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I would say either one of those would be good. The yamaha is on sale right now so if you are buying now I would go for that. But if you are planning on hooking up a bluray or HDDVD player you might want to wait and get a reciever that can decode DTS-HD and dolby digital plus.

1/1/2007 11:04:29 PM

sumfoo1
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http://reviews.cnet.com/Infinity_Beta_50_cherry/4505-7869_7-31296960.html

1/2/2007 3:59:27 PM

moparnum5
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Go to Audio Advice and talk to Ivan

1/2/2007 4:50:35 PM

dannyray
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Paradigm speakers in my opinion are some of the best speakers I have ever heard I actually have the bipolar reference speakers as my rears.

My setup

Two fronts Infinity kappa 6.1s
Paradigm Bipolar dual reference speakers
polk cs245i center
yamaha pro digital series sub 10 inch yst 315 model

1/2/2007 4:55:53 PM

sumfoo1
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Quote :
"Go to Audio Advice and talk to Ivan"


I'm in charlotte

1/2/2007 5:03:41 PM

Quinn
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i have some old infinity floor standers, RS-5 i think is the model. bass heavy as balls which isnt very inviting for music but they make good action movie left/rights and are cheap used.

[Edited on January 2, 2007 at 6:08 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2007 6:08:21 PM

Wolfrules
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Look at Klipsch reference. You should be able to get two RF-7 or RF-5's for 1k-1.5k. and easily two RF-82 speakers for 1k.

1/2/2007 6:33:24 PM

davelen21
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whatever you do, don't get a bunch of different random shit. whatever you start with, get that same series for your whole setup

also, it looks like you are interested only in speakers with alot of bass. You will be much happier getting some good bookshelf speakers and a good sub, especially if you are going to eventually do 7.1.


[Edited on January 2, 2007 at 8:09 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2007 8:06:18 PM

sumfoo1
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I do not want to have to have a $600+ sub to make up for poor speakers to start with right off the bat.

I'll eventually go get one. I honestly just want a balanced POWERFUL FULL RANGE set of speakers.

1/2/2007 8:35:46 PM

davelen21
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lol, i tried

[Edited on January 2, 2007 at 9:43 PM. Reason : you are probably going to need about 1k for a good sub]

1/2/2007 9:43:25 PM

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there used to be a place on independance across the street from target that carried really high end stuff...

not sure if they are still there, but that was a fun place to check out from time to time...

they can probably help you out if they are still around...

I personally understand Audiophileness... trust me I do... nothing like something loud as balls but so clean it can make you cry... but it always should be a question of "how much am I going to use this"... and how much really matters... b/c once you get it into your home you'll be surprised at how different a speaker can sound...

Also you get the joy of discrediting MP3's... they never sound bad... but they don't make your spine tingle like the real CD-Audio version... Loby seen of the matrix or the beach landing of Saving Private Ryan are phenominal ways to demo a system... Fanfare for the common man and metalica unforgiven or Nothing else matters are my favorite audio tracks for picking speakers... all of these selections will make your senses go CRAZY on an awesome setup...

and I dissagree about the not mixing sets... certain speakers will fit different needs of your room better than others and they might not be from the same series...

1/2/2007 9:59:02 PM

sumfoo1
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↑ ↑ yeah i know...

i'm thinking about it.... what would you recommend for bookshelf speakers ?

they would fit better in the house being that i have bookshelves in my living room.


↑ I really appreciate it. thanks


[Edited on January 2, 2007 at 10:02 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2007 9:59:48 PM

Quinn
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most best fullrange speakers ever!

[Edited on January 2, 2007 at 10:20 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2007 10:20:19 PM

sumfoo1
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thats sweet quinn

1/2/2007 10:30:06 PM

slut
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Quote :
"have you heard them? exactly, shut the fuck up."


i have dumbass. want to jump to some more conclusions? i'll buy you the mat

[Edited on January 2, 2007 at 11:37 PM. Reason : *]

1/2/2007 11:37:31 PM

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http://www.ubid.com/CADENCE_A-15_TOWER_SPEAKER_SYSTEM_3-WAY_WITH_8%22_SUB_BUILT-IN/a601799294-rsearchone.html

Not at all kidding. These speakers were formerly ~1k+ per pair. I have 4 and they sound nicer than anything I've heard at bestbuy/circuitcity/etc

1/2/2007 11:48:27 PM

sumfoo1
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freeman's home audio

1/3/2007 7:38:44 AM

sumfoo1
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http://www.axiomaudio.com/epicgrandmaster_500main.html#


????

1/4/2007 7:54:56 PM

stopdropnrol
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quin did u build that?

1/4/2007 11:44:17 PM

Quinn
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it was built at my fathers shop.

i do not have accuracy skills required for such a design.

1/5/2007 1:08:37 AM

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1/5/2007 11:58:19 AM

Wyloch
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Klipsch towers. Reference line.

/thread

1/5/2007 12:22:03 PM

sumfoo1
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↑ spend too much time in best buy ?

1/5/2007 1:43:15 PM

Wyloch
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Wha? To my knowledge, they don't carry the Reference line at Best Buy.

Besides, who the hell actually makes their hi-fi purchases at Best Buy?! Is there anyone that is truly that naive?

[Edited on January 5, 2007 at 2:06 PM. Reason : ]

1/5/2007 2:05:27 PM

Blind Hate
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Who the hell other than someone with golden ears actually spends more than a couple grand on a stereo setup?

1/5/2007 2:22:08 PM

Raige
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Go to Audio Advice and talk to Ivan

dood knows his shit. And he's hysterical. If greg is there you'll get Ivan and greg confused. Ivan looks like a greg, and greg looks like an Ivan.

^ You go listen to best buy's setup then go to Audio Advice and listen to a set of low end speakers they carry. $400+ish. You'll hear the vast difference. It's not something small, it's huge.

Then go listen to the state of the art and you'll wet yourself. I'm NOT an audiophile but I could hear the differences.

[Edited on January 5, 2007 at 2:28 PM. Reason : !]

1/5/2007 2:27:45 PM

sumfoo1
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Quote :
"Klipsch towers. Reference line.

/thread"


Anyone who makes a statment like this abviously doesn't know too much about audio.

#1 Klipsch horns are known to be a little harsh
#2 they're a little overpriced for what they are.
#3 there is no perfect speaker, I'm looking for people to suggest stuff for me to audition. you should know there is no single best speaker. every room sounds different every person hears different.etc.

the reason i made the bestbuy comment is many people that would make a statement like that would go there listen to them and can tell they sound decent in a box store with the chatter of 200 or so other people in there in the background then go home look them up online and find out they have a higher end line then what BB carries.
thus assuming they must be the best speaker ever and posting them in this thread and attempting to end the thread.... "/thread"

btw? anyone listen to axiom? that sub is supposed to be one of the best on the market.

1/5/2007 2:39:40 PM

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Quote :
"#1 Klipsch horns are known to be a little harsh "


There isn't anyone that has ever posted on this site that has either the money or the ear to discern "a little harsh" when comparing a quality speaker to some other quality speaker.

Sure, you can tell the shit from the decent stuff, but not the decent from the decent. You aren't going to be able to tell the difference in a good $500 set and a good $1.5k set, especially when the material you are feeding them is going to be pretty shitty compared to what it will take to be able to tell the difference between the two.

1/5/2007 2:53:36 PM

sumfoo1
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umm... you don't need to be an audiophile to not enjoy ear piercing highs... i'm not a fan of klipsch at all i was just trying to tone it down some.

1/5/2007 3:01:05 PM

dannyray
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PARADIGM....enough said

1/5/2007 3:25:18 PM

Wyloch
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Understood.

Although the alledged harshness of the horns in Klipsch towers has in my experience been 100% attributed to amplifier quality - most don't have the sensitivity to supply a clean enough signal.

The Klipsch horn is an incredibly agile and revealing driver - imperfections are therefore more pronounced and thus the stigma "a bit harsh."

Never said they were the best ever - IMO that would be Wilson Audio or perhaps Martin Logan - but they are the best for the price range you mentioned.

Anyways, assuming your amplifier rig doesn't suck (ie - if you still have that Yamaha, never mind), then give strong consideration to these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Klipsch-RF-7-Speakers-Brand-New-Black-Color-1-Pair_W0QQitemZ140070060381QQihZ004QQcategoryZ61378QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Quote :
"There isn't anyone that has ever posted on this site that has either the money or the ear to discern "a little harsh" when comparing a quality speaker to some other quality speaker.
"


Speak for yourself, bud. Your inabilities don't dictate my own.

1/5/2007 6:56:03 PM

Quinn
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Quote :
"There isn't anyone that has ever posted on this site that has either the money or the ear to discern "a little harsh" when comparing a quality speaker to some other quality speaker.
"


hook a titanium tweeter to any 3 way and you will be welcomed to "harsh" highs.

I think you might be the dumbest poster on this entire message board. You prove it time and time again. Its quite impressive and i admire your drive.

1/5/2007 7:27:03 PM

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