rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
..... 1/2/2007 12:51:52 AM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 1/2/2007 12:54:10 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
if by national you mean fiesta bowl
but damn what a playbook
[Edited on January 2, 2007 at 12:54 AM. Reason : ] 1/2/2007 12:54:11 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
signed 1/2/2007 12:54:41 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
best trick plays ever 1/2/2007 12:55:05 AM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
BOISE STATE FOR AP NATIONAL CHAMPION 1/2/2007 12:55:27 AM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
if Florida wins, AP for sure 1/2/2007 12:55:27 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
that was some of the most impressive coaching down the stretch I've ever seen. even when the team started coming apart at the seams, the coach stayed composed and adjusted accordingly. 1/2/2007 1:03:13 AM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
BOISE STATE FOR AP NATIONAL CHAMPION 1/2/2007 1:03:59 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
I'm suddenly a Florida fan
BOISE STATE FOR AP NATIONAL CHAMPION 1/2/2007 1:06:54 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Florida still deserves to be national champs if they beat Ohio State. 1/2/2007 1:07:59 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
go florida....then FUCK florida
BOISE STATE FOR AP NATIONAL CHAMPION 1/2/2007 1:09:36 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
^ 1/2/2007 1:10:23 AM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
In a way it further helps the BCS argument though because this game and the controversy surrounding it will create a greater buzz for the national title game as people will be even more interested into who will win. 1/2/2007 1:16:24 AM |
rdunck All American 862 Posts user info edit post |
stfu thats what the announcer said, stop acting like you thought of that dick 1/2/2007 1:24:45 AM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
no. imo great game, but it was a bowl game and got up for it. Sure, they played some great football (as well as OU). But if they had played a tougher regular season schedule I don't think they would be an undefeated or possibly even 1 loss team at this point. 1/2/2007 1:25:51 AM |
rdunck All American 862 Posts user info edit post |
probably so, but beating oklahoma erases who they played during the regular season because now everyone knows they are for real. 1/2/2007 1:26:49 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
how does people being interested in who will win the bcs mean it works as a way to decide the nat'l champ?
as it were, despite my thread, even if bsu does somehow end up 1 in the ap, i will not call them natl champ b/c that would mean accepting the douchebag media's crowning of usc as nat'l champ while ignoring lsu.
what i will do, however, is use it as more evidence that the bcs is stupid 1/2/2007 1:27:43 AM |
rdunck All American 862 Posts user info edit post |
usc would claim ap #1 before Boise State anyways, this argument is lame. 1/2/2007 1:30:50 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, a team that lost to UCLA and Oregon State deserves it so much more than them
but none of this matters. It may not be fair to make BSU #1 if OSU loses, but the BCS is fucking stupid anyway, so why not
[Edited on January 2, 2007 at 1:34 AM. Reason : ] 1/2/2007 1:32:12 AM |
rdunck All American 862 Posts user info edit post |
yep youre right. 1/2/2007 1:33:28 AM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
^yea i wasnt trying to discredit their great win. theres just no way i would vote them the number 1 team in the country for the whole season. simply because they only played 5 teams who finished above .500 the entire year, including this bowl game.
(and yes my obligatory, the BCS is really really stupid). 1/2/2007 1:38:21 AM |
rdunck All American 862 Posts user info edit post |
prediction:
boise state wont be top 4 after all the games are done.
michigan, usc, ohio state, florida, lsu, and wisconsin will more than likely be in front of BSU. 1/2/2007 1:41:05 AM |
HaLo All American 14264 Posts user info edit post |
michigan, usc, ohio state, florida, lsu, and wisconsin will more than likely be in front of BSU.
1/2/2007 1:44:55 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
How does help for playoff argument? This just makes it worse. Does Boise make a 4-team playoff? No. Does Boise make a 6-team playoff? No. They wouldn't have even made an 8-team playoff because they were still ranked #9. Im at a loss of what the BCS should do. 1/2/2007 1:48:13 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Undefeated teams should automatically make the tournament. 1/2/2007 1:49:12 AM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
oklahomas just not very good. 1/2/2007 1:49:28 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^^^BSU was 8 in the final bcs rankings
Harris Poll USA Today Computer Rankings BCS TEAM RK PTS % RK PTS % A&H RB CM KM JS PW % COMP AVG BCS AVG PRVS 1 Ohio State 1 2824 .9996 1 1550 1.000 25 25 24 25 25 25 1.000 1 .9999 1 2 Florida 2 2670 .9451 2 1470 .9484 24 23 25 24 23 23 .940 T-2 .9445 4 3 Michigan 3 2632 .9317 3 1444 .9316 23 24 23 23 24 24 .940 T-2 .9344 3 4 LSU 4 2372 .8396 4 1299 .8381 22 17 19 21 21 21 .820 5 .8326 5 5 USC 7 2173 .7692 7 1173 .7568 20 18 22 22 22 22 .860 4 .7953 2 6 Louisville 5 2272 .8042 6 1223 .7890 21 22 21 17 13 20 .790 6 .7944 6 7 Wisconsin 6 2229 .7890 5 1263 .8148 11 21 16 13 18 17 .640 10 .7480 7 8 Boise State 9 1950 .6903 9 1053 .6794 19 16 20 19 20 18 .760 7 .7099 8
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ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How does help for playoff argument? This just makes it worse. Does Boise make a 4-team playoff? No. Does Boise make a 6-team playoff? No. They wouldn't have even made an 8-team playoff because they were still ranked #9. Im at a loss of what the BCS should do." |
Well like ^ above said, they were #8 in the last BCS rankings, which is why they got a BCS bowl in the first place. Plus, a proper playoff would include 16 teams anyhow, which would include conference champs, so yeah they would be in a playoff.1/2/2007 3:07:31 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "a proper playoff would include 16 teams anyhow" |
jokes? a 16 team playoff would be not only terrible, but ridiculous.1/2/2007 6:18:17 AM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
^Why? And please dont give me the tired old "theres only 4 teams at the most that deserve a shot" crap. 4-6 teams is not a playoff....or at least not a very good one. 1/2/2007 7:12:17 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
because 16 teams would mean that teams like NOTRE DAME this season have a shot, aka the regular season is meaningless if you're a big team. the regular season being so important is what makes college football so great. go watch the nfl if you don't get it. 1/2/2007 7:22:35 AM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck Florida and go Boise State!! 1/2/2007 7:50:49 AM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
^^So just stick with the current system then. If you dont like a playoff system, then why argue one playoff system over another? Im ok with an 8-team playoff as well, as long as 6 of those spots go to conference champions (even Wake Forest) and a guarantee that a highly-ranked non-BCS team would make it in as well...but 16 teams seems to work in all other divisions of football, so why not here? If Notre Dame makes it but doesnt deserve to be in it, they will lose before its over. If they dont lose, then they deserved to be in it in the first place. 1/2/2007 8:06:26 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you dont like a playoff system, then why argue one playoff system over another?" |
i didn't. IN FACT, to spoil your argument against me even more, my personal opinion is that i wish they'd get rid of the national championship game all together (i know, i'm crazy) and go back to traditional bowls being exactly that, traditional and prestigious. there's really no need to decide a #1 out of that many teams. that's just me, though, and i'm probably the only person alive that has this opinion.1/2/2007 5:14:24 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
^so why not use this approach with college basketball? 1/2/2007 5:31:10 PM |
statewolf07 Veteran 148 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking of playoff system, did anyone see who won the ESPN fantasy playoff? LSU baby 1/2/2007 5:41:40 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
^umm, big deal
that was probably put together by the 3 guys who broadcasted it during sportscenter
I bet fucking Notre Dame is the national champion in the Lou Holtz Fantasy Tournament 1/2/2007 5:46:28 PM |
jimb0 All American 4667 Posts user info edit post |
btw where can i get a torrent of this game 1/2/2007 7:17:42 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
we got hosed 1/9/2007 1:17:03 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
at least they got one first place vote 1/9/2007 1:21:23 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Speaking of playoff system, did anyone see who won the ESPN fantasy playoff? LSU baby" |
Yeah, and the Carolina Panthers won the ESPN fantasy Super Bowl. SO WHAT ARE PANTHER FANS SO UPSET ABOUT?1/9/2007 1:21:45 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Undefeated teams should automatically make the tournament.
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depending on SOS maybe1/9/2007 2:01:59 PM |