for a mechanical engineer who has passed the FE exam.

NC State's epack website has nothing in the NC/SC/VA area listed.

Anyone know about this mess?

1/9/2007 10:02:39 PM

all jobs do not exist on fucking epack

1/9/2007 10:08:40 PM

probably would have wanted to start looking at job fairs that ncsu sponsors.

they are there for a reason

1/9/2007 10:08:46 PM

but that would cut into his video game time!

1/9/2007 10:10:08 PM

never gotten a response from any job fairs. all other job websites want experience.

1/9/2007 10:11:57 PM

halo doesnt count?

bummer

1/9/2007 10:14:35 PM

Career fairs are good. Temp agencies also work sometimes. I got my first real job through Manpower.

1/9/2007 10:18:57 PM

what kind of work are you looking to do?

1/9/2007 10:20:34 PM

yea im graduating in may and ive been looking at several online job sites, using a temp agency, and been to the last several job fairs. As far as Raleigh goes, there are plenty of very nice jobs for MEs however it seems that 19 out of every 20 requires anywhere from 3 to 10 years of experience.

As far as entry level goes for the area im looking at (anything in HVAC/Power/Energy/Utilities) ive seen maybe 2 over the last 2 months through all of those online resources. Ive also looked directly on company websites and from that I found one i think. Obviously Ive realized im going to have to spend more time looking outside of Raleigh (and I have over the past month), but the results have been similar. Very very slim selection in NC/SC/VA from what I have seen.

I know I've been putting a lot of time into this, and I wish you good luck yourself.

1/9/2007 10:29:52 PM

I have contacted manpower, and they agreed to assist me, but they said that they really only have job opening with experience.

Quote :

"what kind of work are you looking to do?"

At this point, most anything that has a future.

HVAC, AutoCad design, computer design, technical sales, management.

I really need to stay in the NC/SC/VA area. Thats my only real concern atm.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 10:39 PM. Reason : so screwed]

1/9/2007 10:37:45 PM

did you graduate this past semester?

1/9/2007 10:43:29 PM

you might want to look into nuclear. a lot of the current engineering workforce industry-wide is nearing retirement, and the companies are wanting to phase in some new hires before the old ones leave.

try talking to duke or progress

1/9/2007 10:47:06 PM

I passed this semester. Just that my GPA isnt the greatest. And noooooobody wants you through the career center if your GPA isnt above a 3.0.....generally

1/9/2007 10:50:31 PM

i know what you mean. I had a bad Junior year and worked my ass off this past semester and i am RIGHT at a 3.0. really felt i got screwed on a few grades this past semester too.

oh well, we'll see. at least i have the 'luxury' of not being out of school trying to support myself for another 4 months or so

1/9/2007 10:52:21 PM

Quote :

"I really need to stay in the NC/SC/VA area. Thats my only real concern atm."

Need, or have a strong desire to? I'm working in Raleigh and my fiancee goes to school in Blacksburg, Virginia. You make do.

And I'm not sure if you've tried the major career websites or not. I'm not sure what kind of opportunities are out there for MAE's. Also start listing every MAE company you can think of. You'll also have a lot more luck if you include DC as a potential area to work in.

1/9/2007 10:57:05 PM

This is me right now.

http://warfacedebate.ytmnd.com/

In a month I will be competing with the spring grads. unbeleivable

I have tried monster, hotjobs, and others.. 100% I have seen want experience

1/9/2007 11:00:35 PM

my MechE friend that just graduated at Clemson and passed the FE just got a position as, literally, a rocket scientist in Huntsville, alabama

1/9/2007 11:09:11 PM

co-op, intern while a student

1/9/2007 11:12:36 PM

yea i co-oped with a very nice chemical processing company just outside charlotte, NC...i just dont want to work there when I graduate. The plan is .6 miles from the house i grew up in since 2nd grade that my parents still live in. I would be bored to death working there and living in the same exact area i grew up i think.

1/9/2007 11:16:40 PM

"Entry Level"

1/9/2007 11:25:07 PM

Why do you need websites with lots of job listings? Lots of companies don't post jobs onto Monster or similar sites.

GE, for example, typically won't. You have to go to the GE websites and post your resume through them to get any offers.

My advice is to go to specific companies' websites and apply directly.

1/9/2007 11:39:04 PM

^^^hmmm, beggars can't be chosers.

1/10/2007 12:36:28 AM

Quote :

"I have tried monster, hotjobs, and others.. 100% I have seen want experience"

+

Quote :

"I would be bored to death working there and living in the same exact area i grew up i think."

=

Quote :

"hmmm, beggars can't be chosers."

put your dues in like everyone else.

1/10/2007 12:43:54 AM

well youre pulling posts from two completely different users here. gg

i have leads some in NC and some in SC, i was just stating that the job market is very thin if youre looking to stay here. so stfu and learn to comprehend

[Edited on January 10, 2007 at 1:11 AM. Reason : ]

1/10/2007 1:11:25 AM

just because they say they want experience (1-2 years) doesnt mean they wont consider new grads. They just put those requirements to weed out pussies.

1/10/2007 1:14:57 AM

^ yea thats why i listed 3 yrs as my threshold in most cases, not 1 or 2. if youre looking for a job that bad BEU, it cant hurt to send your resume to some companies that dont have openings listed, or look for smaller consulting HVAC places in raleigh.

[Edited on January 10, 2007 at 1:23 AM. Reason : ]

1/10/2007 1:22:56 AM

I know its from two different users, just putting the great advice together.

I would try by calling up companies you think you might want to have a career with. Ask for an informational interview and find out what entry level positions there are and what experience/skills/etc you might need to get there.

1/10/2007 1:41:08 AM

You have coop experience? That can fall under 1 year of experience right there, even if the rotations didn't amount to a full year, you can probably swing it as such. You are no longer considered "entry-level" and will open several more doors.

1/10/2007 4:19:01 AM

check out Man Power off of Oberlin Rd. by CV what what

1/10/2007 10:15:59 AM

Manpower requires you to fill out their online "application." Showing up unexpected won't do anything.

It surprised me though. Once I did filled out their application and called after 3 days (they recommended that), the person in charge of me found 2 possibilities. I got an interview from the first one, and now have a job.

Just keep in mind that entry level positions through temp agencies will probably be considered contractor work. My contract is for a year with the possibility for extension depending on what project I am working on. Also, many companies will hire the contract workers after the period. So, long story short, contractor work is a good solution to the "requires 1-3 years experience" problem.

1/10/2007 10:24:30 AM

www.dice.com

1/10/2007 10:29:54 AM

This guy is just another one of thousands of college kids who think they can coast through college with passing grades and have a job handed to them when they get that diploma.

While you were spending hours playing halo, the people you're competing with were keeping their grades up, gaining relevant experience, and otherwise gaining an edge.

If you're an engineering major, and you don't at least have a high GPA or Co-op, then you'll be lucky to get any engineering job when you graduate.

A high GPA can make up for lack of experience, and experience can make up for a lack of a high GPA, the point is you gotta have something that shows that you can perform at a high level to employers. And, sorry, but Halo doesn't give you that.]

1/10/2007 10:39:23 AM

^ seconded

you can easily tell the difference

1/10/2007 10:41:29 AM

agreed...and i dont mean to be a downer, but no one i interviewed with gave a damn about the FE exam. unless youre civil or some other discipline that basically requires it, its not really a strong selling point.

imo, they overfluff it at ncsu.



[Edited on January 10, 2007 at 10:45 AM. Reason : gd]

1/10/2007 10:42:36 AM

^^^DING DING DING DING

I graduated with a CSC degree but my grades sucked ass - a little less than a 2.8 overall GPA and my major GPA was WORSE. This kept me from jobs at IBM, probably Cisco, and a couple others because they get so many applicants they filter by GPA first... I even had 9 months co-op time at Cisco and I still never heard anything from even them.

However, I got an interview with a company up North, and that was all I needed. After getting an opportunity to actually sell myself in person (or on the phone), I went through 5 more interviews and now I work for the largest/best network consulting firm in the Midwest. We've won numerous awards from Cisco, IBM, and Microsoft, and after our acquisition by CDW we're going to double in size in 3 years to cover the entire country. Look out, we're coming!

PS The people at Berbee (my company) are amazing - the CEO knows me by first name, the manageers are all great, everyone is willing to help you out, the hours are flexible, I'm learning a lot, the benefits and pay are great... Just keep looking!

[Edited on January 10, 2007 at 10:52 AM. Reason : .]

1/10/2007 10:51:02 AM

i work in construction design and the FE was a very strong selling point for all of the disciplines which includes ones that don't usually require it (mechanical and electrical). In fact, they haven't hired any junior engineers that are not EI's.

^^ besides for civil, it's more of what industry you're in rather than your discipline. in manufacturing i never would of needed it, but in design i do.

[Edited on January 10, 2007 at 11:06 AM. Reason : fsadd]

1/10/2007 10:55:35 AM

gpa is greatly overlooked by students these days as bobby pointed out.

for the company i work for, and there are many like them, they wont even accept your resume with a <3.0.

that's just to have someone take a glance at it.

they also are moving to REQUIRE co-op/intern experience.

you guys still in school, look at this thread as a lesson.

1/10/2007 11:03:22 AM

^^interesting...i guess it depends on the industry. i mainly interviewed in the electronics, communications, and defense industries, and whenever i brought it up, no one batted an eyelash.



[Edited on January 10, 2007 at 11:04 AM. Reason : fg]

1/10/2007 11:04:12 AM

yeah i work for a chemical... erm... science company and it is like

"HAYY BUT I PASSED THE FE"

"so what"

1/10/2007 11:10:47 AM

Quote :

"gpa is greatly overlooked by students these days as bobby pointed out"

I never once have told any employer my GPA...once you have your 1st job, your GPA will go away. People can lean on their GPA for an entry level job but then they have to produce to move up...my gpa was not good (2.2 ish I think) and I'm doing just fine in Civil Engineering...The only company that asked for GPA was Kimley-Horn and they are based in Raleigh so they pick the cream of the crop (in their opinion) from NCSU.

1/10/2007 11:16:50 AM

Quote :

"In a month I will be competing with the spring grads. unbeleivable"

when the other kids were going to career fairs - which game were you playing?

i know a few may grads that accepted jobs late last year...you are already competing with may grads

1/10/2007 11:37:47 AM

Why don't we bring up the whole video game angle again?

Jesus, I'm sure we all get it. People that play video games can't get jobs, you have to work 24/7 to get a decent job

1/10/2007 11:41:05 AM

there are two types of engineers on tww:
1) those that have jobs
2) those that don't

#1's like to do everything in their power to shit on the #2's, for no apparent reason besides from making themselves feel better about their lives

1/10/2007 11:42:22 AM

1234chs you give me hope. All this talk is gonna have me feeling that I've just paid for the most expensive piece of parchment in my life, and have to get a job at wally world.

1/10/2007 11:48:46 AM

now if only I could get a job playing video games...

1/10/2007 12:09:45 PM

Have u tried getting a referral ? If you know someone in a company that has jobs, ask them to fwd your resume to the HR. You will land an interview 90% of the time (unless u really suck).

[Edited on January 10, 2007 at 12:16 PM. Reason : hghjtk]

1/10/2007 12:16:21 PM

I looked at jobs in the Raleigh area and could get one that I really like straight out of school but I'm now thinking about moving back to the area...with 3 years of experience and valuable training (that my company paid for) I have options with jobs down there.

I'm in Hampton Roads and engineers are in pretty high demand (not completely sure about Mechanical but I know civils are)...you should check out jobs in this area. Just google engineering firms in this area then go directly thru them and not Monster, etc.

1/10/2007 12:51:54 PM

Quote :

"i know a few may grads that accepted jobs late last year...you are already competing with may grads "

I fit under this.

I interviewed with a company that i co-oped with, and was privy to the hiring schedule. surprisingly enough, they begin looking for may grads in late june of the year before your graduation.

phone interview in august, in person interview in sept, offer by october, till late november to decide.

it's really surprising how early you have to get in with some of the enormous companies, with all the movement towards centralized HR departments, they are moving really slowly.

[Edited on January 10, 2007 at 1:08 PM. Reason : nov not dec]

1/10/2007 1:06:58 PM

I agree with BobbyDigital's post, also

Quote :

"i was just stating that the job market is very thin if youre looking to stay here. so stfu"

Ever hear of rtp?

1/10/2007 1:18:41 PM

^Yeah, no kidding. As easy as it is to make excuses, RTP is one of the BEST places in the US to find an engineering job. If you can't find something here, you are in trouble.

And I have been down that road before. I didn't get my first real job out of college until a year and a half after I graduated (Wal-Mart ftl). I made excuses, I said I was trying, but it was no one's fault but my own. I wasn't doing everything that I could do, everything that I should do. You can't wait for the career fair.

About a month after I can honestly say that I was trying to find a job, I found one. And this was mid-September, so conditions for hiring weren't exactly prime.

1/10/2007 1:35:56 PM