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"Their comments followed a News & Observer review of property records and police reports that showed 10 Southeast Raleigh homes owned by a police Sgt. have drawn officers on 86 police calls since 2001, many for drug sales, prostitution and assault."

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"Under the program, landlords must buy a permit and attend classes after they rack up violations at their rental houses. But tenants' criminal behavior does not count toward the permit, Crowder said. "The only thing in there is nuisance party stuff," he said."

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"Under it, landlords must get a permit if they get three nuisance party or noise violations within two years, or four city code violations in two years, or if they fail to make required repairs within inspectors' timeline. The two-year permit costs $500 a year."

It is nice to know the city comes down harder people who rent houses on Brent road to students than slum lords letting tenants sell crack and run a brothel.

http://www.newsobserver.com/167/story/539894.html

2/6/2007 10:50:48 AM

its kinda like how catching underage drinkers at the football tailgate is a VERY HIGH priority, meanwhile, antonio is break into grandma's car in downtown raleigh. Tyrone is pushing 2lbs of crack off of kent rd. and Larshida is whoring herself off of blount st.

[Edited on February 6, 2007 at 10:53 AM. Reason : l]

2/6/2007 10:53:31 AM

You can't legally choose your renters, yet the city wants to hold landlords accountable for the things their tenants do. I really hope we can get more reasonable people on the city council.

2/6/2007 11:25:27 AM

2/6/2007 11:37:04 AM

^^sure you can.

These landlords just don't have much to pick from, because no respectable people want to live there.

2/6/2007 11:52:42 AM

2/6/2007 11:56:38 AM

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"You can't legally choose your renters, yet the city wants to hold landlords accountable for the things their tenants do. I really hope we can get more reasonable people on the city council."

Any landlord with any intelligence will obtain a credit report and background check on their tenants. If you rent to someone without taking those precautions, you shouldn't be landlording.

2/6/2007 12:32:35 PM

i like it. they stay away from my crack selling business.

2/6/2007 12:54:59 PM

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"It is nice to know the city comes down harder people who rent houses on Brent road to students than slum lords letting tenants sell crack and run a brothel. "

It's all about which politicians' cocks got sucked by which landlords.

2/6/2007 1:05:39 PM

^^^ so people with good credit and no criminal background don't have parties or other social gatherings?

^ yep

2/6/2007 2:02:38 PM

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"so people with good credit and no criminal background don't have parties or other social gatherings?"

If you properly screen tenants, you're less likely to end up with a brothel/crack house and/or meth lab on your property. Who cares about some college kids with a keg? If I were a landlord I'd be more concerned about serious crimes happening on my property.

I should have added to my earlier post that landlords in NC can legally enter the property anytime for any reason, without notice. This slumlord cop should have been taking advantage of his right to enter when crime on his property became this serious. Its not that hard to evict people who are blatantly violating the law. The point is, this landlord was knowingly providing refuge for drug and sex crimes, contributing to urban blight. He should be held accountable for his negligence.

2/6/2007 2:22:51 PM

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"If you properly screen tenants, you're less likely to end up with a brothel/crack house and/or meth lab on your property. Who cares about some college kids with a keg?"

you're missing the point of the thread.

2/6/2007 2:24:22 PM

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"I should have added to my earlier post that landlords in NC can legally enter the property anytime for any reason, without notice. "

Link?

Does this have to be written into the lease?

2/6/2007 3:42:08 PM

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"Who cares about some college kids with a keg?"

The cops...Did you even read the thread?

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"If I were a landlord I'd be more concerned about serious crimes happening on my property."

Then get ready to bend over for P.R.O.P. violations.

2/6/2007 4:48:56 PM

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"Any landlord with any intelligence will obtain a credit report and background check on their tenants. If you rent to someone without taking those precautions, you shouldn't be landlording."

I got everything in my mamma name

2/6/2007 4:56:41 PM

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"Link? Does this have to be written into the lease?"

No, this is assumed under NC law. There is no law in NC that prohibits landlords from entering anytime.

Look at your lease and I bet there is a clause that specifically reiterates your landlord/property manager's right to enter. Leases put out by the Apartment Association of NC (most common lease author in NC) have it plainly stated.

So yeah, your landlord can legally enter anytime for no reason at all.

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"The cops...Did you even read the thread?"

I thought the point of the thread was that the cops SHOULD care more about serious crimes and less about keggers on Brent Road.

BTW, I was initially responding to your post.

[Edited on February 6, 2007 at 5:11 PM. Reason : .]

2/6/2007 5:00:14 PM

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"If you properly screen tenants, you're less likely to end up with a brothel/crack house and/or meth lab on your property. Who cares about some college kids with a keg? If I were a landlord I'd be more concerned about serious crimes happening on my property."

If I'm the landlord, I care about what could potentially get in me trouble (i.e. kids with kegs). Let em smoke pot and make meth, I'm not their mother. But if they get me in shit, then that's another story.

2/6/2007 5:25:45 PM

A meth lab is about the worst thing that can happen to your property. You'd be better off if it just burned down and you let insurance take care of it.

I just think he missed the point of the thread. There are a lot of people in the NC State area who use the city council to further their agenda. They don't like college students and they push their agenda through the NPO, PROP, etc. We have selectively enforced laws to combat rentals yet the issues that really impact the city are largely ignored.

2/6/2007 5:32:08 PM

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""I should have added to my earlier post that landlords in NC can legally enter the property anytime for any reason, without notice. ""

umm are you sure about that ?

my uncle owned a state apt and told me otherwise

That's also specifically the reason I got out of my first lease, my landlord thrice entered my apartment without notice or permission 2 times while i wasn't home.

2/6/2007 5:54:45 PM

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"umm are you sure about that ?"

http://www.rentnet.com/apartments/fyp/legal_corner/lc_living/notice.jhtml;$sessionid$YQR5X35LFIIIACQAQUCCFEY

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"A synopsis of state laws on the amount of notice landlords must give tenants before they enter. This is a synopsis of state laws on the amount of notice landlords must give tenants before they enter. For details, see your state's statutes. North Carolina No statute"

Yes, I'm sure about it. I've researched it thoroughly because my landlord was entering without my permission. Landlords CAN enter whenever they want in NC.

2/6/2007 6:04:51 PM

hey look

more govt officials that take advantage of the citizens that pay their salaries

2/6/2007 6:10:50 PM

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"You can't legally choose your renters"

wanna bet?

2/8/2007 1:07:18 AM

there are ways around it

2/8/2007 10:58:21 AM

You can run a check credit.
You can do a background check.
You can call previous landlords.
You can pick strategic places to advertise.

But ultimately, if someone that you do not like meets these requirements and wants to rent the place you can't turn them down and find another renter. You'll be tied up in a lawsuit that will make you wish you never put the place up for rent in the first place.

[Edited on February 8, 2007 at 11:32 AM. Reason : s]

2/8/2007 11:32:12 AM

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"You can run a check credit. You can do a background check. You can call previous landlords. You can pick strategic places to advertise."

yep, and/or adjust the rent rate.... rather it's a high rate but if you 'qualify' you get massive 'discounts' down to what you really want to rent it for....

most ppl that you don't want to rent to will fail one or more of those...

2/8/2007 3:30:46 PM

^^Yes, there'll be a lawsuit, but there's a better chance of winning than you might think.

Small-time landlords, as opposed to huge rental companies, especially stand a chance to have those rights.

A highly religious landlord in CA won when he was taken to court for not allowing an unmarried couple living together to rent from him.

One in NY won because he refused to rent to lawyers, of all things.

2/8/2007 5:41:07 PM

You always lose when you get sued...Regardless of the outcome of the case.

2/8/2007 6:03:40 PM

so now Landlords are not going to rent to college students in Raleigh? is that the goal?

2/8/2007 8:32:46 PM

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"landlords must get a permit if they get three nuisance party or noise violations within two years"

Someone should start calling in party/noise complaints on the dorms.

2/8/2007 10:48:25 PM

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"Look at your lease and I bet there is a clause that specifically reiterates your landlord/property manager's right to enter."

Actually, mine says 24 hours notice except for emergencies.

2/8/2007 11:24:52 PM

^who do you rent from?

I'd say you're lucky.

2/9/2007 8:15:05 AM

Lake Park, private owner who has a place left over from when his kid was in college. *shrug* It looked like a pretty standard lease.

2/9/2007 8:39:03 AM

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"Let em smoke pot and make meth, I'm not their mother. But if they get me in shit, then that's another story."

Obviously you don't know a lot about meth.


If your property becomes a meth lab good luck ever renting/selling it. No one wants to live in a state of eternal sickness.

2/9/2007 9:14:09 AM