nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
do you have questions about mormonism? Ask them of me. I will answer truthfully and as honestly as I can. Please note, I am not that up to date on the current apologetics coming from farms and fair.
I shall give the straight truth it won't be masked with bullshit from the "anti" and "pro" dogma.
So ask away. 2/22/2007 6:15:39 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
why do mormons believe that the kjv bible is the only 'right' bible? 2/22/2007 6:17:32 PM |
OneNighter86 Suspended 8017 Posts user info edit post |
mormons MMMmmmmMMMmmm
actually, the girl I could honeslty have seen myself marrying was mormon and lives in utah.. north of salt lake city. Havent talked to her in about a year, maybe it was never meant to be
[Edited on February 22, 2007 at 6:18 PM. Reason : .] 2/22/2007 6:17:51 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why do mormons believe that the kjv bible is the only 'right' bible?" |
It isn't that it is the "right" bible. according to the mormons, it is the one that is translated more correctly. Joseph Smith before he was killed began writing the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible in which he claimed god was revealing to him the correct translation due to either lost material or wrongly written material.2/22/2007 6:20:38 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
Is it true that there are new prophecies every now and then when a 'glitch' comes up?
Also, is the only way to get into Celestial level of heaven or whatever is to be baptized a Mormon? 2/22/2007 6:24:44 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Is it true that there are new prophecies every now and then when a 'glitch' comes up?" |
They are not announced as phrophecies. that last supposed prophecy was lifting the ban on blacks receiving the priesthood.
Quote : | "Also, is the only way to get into Celestial level of heaven or whatever is to be baptized a Mormon?" |
yes and no. In order ot get to the Celestial Kingdom, one must be baptized, received their endowments and stay true to the end. With in the Celestial kingdom there are three levels of glory. In order to get to the highest level of glory in the celestial kingdom you must be a man and have multiple wives or be married to a man (for women).
Others who reach the celestial kingdom are children who die before the age of 8 and the mentally retarded. The way the doctrine states it, is that during the was in heaven (between Satan and God), the most valiant spirits were given a promise by god that they would return. So god either made them die before the age of accountability (8) or made them mentally retarded (cannot sin that way if you don't know right from wrong). These valiant spirits are taken directly to the highest level of the highest kingdom to live with god throughout all eternity.2/22/2007 6:30:08 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
Oh yeah is it true that all mormons are racist since black people are supposedly decendents of Cain? 2/22/2007 6:33:13 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
are all ex-mormons faggots? i've known quite a few and they've all been ass pounding queens
[Edited on February 22, 2007 at 6:34 PM. Reason : ,] 2/22/2007 6:33:39 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Others who reach the celestial kingdom are children who die before the age of 8 and the mentally retarded" |
this bodes well for Rymnngarfunkel and dnl2/22/2007 6:38:34 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
^^only tke's are faggots. Yes it is true that some leave the religion because of sexual orientation (Michael Quinn excommunicated because of homosexuality and his writing on polygamy). Weirdly, many of the gay ex-mormons still strongly hold to their belief in mormonism
Quote : | "Oh yeah is it true that all mormons are racist since black people are supposedly decendents of Cain?" |
Ah yes, the classic Brigham Young/Harold B Lee Seed of Cain nonsense. I wouldn't say all Mormons are racist, just like I wouldn't say all Christians/Jews are racist (Curse of Ham). I would say that a lot of mormons hold very strong stereotypes about all minority groups. Living in a homogenous culture will do that to you. I do honestly believe that much of the church leaders were in fact racist. The fact that they could allow the racist rantings of Brigham Young be perpetuated through the years proves this. But in short, no, not all mormons are racist.
[Edited on February 22, 2007 at 6:39 PM. Reason : .]2/22/2007 6:38:37 PM |
OneNighter86 Suspended 8017 Posts user info edit post |
not all tke's are faggots... most of them are, but I know a couple cool guys in there 2/22/2007 6:39:23 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
More questions 2/22/2007 6:40:49 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
can they drink caffeine free diet coke? 2/22/2007 6:41:28 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
why are you an ex-mormon? Did you finally wise up? 2/22/2007 6:42:13 PM |
blasphemour All American 57594 Posts user info edit post |
what made you give up your faith? 2/22/2007 6:42:27 PM |
poopface All American 29367 Posts user info edit post |
where do babies come from? 2/22/2007 6:43:14 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
what are you now? 2/22/2007 6:44:42 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "can they drink caffeine free diet coke?" |
yes, they can also drink regular coke too.
Quote : | "what made you give up your faith?" |
I started studying church history and saw it for what it was. nothing more than a farce and con perpetrated by Joseph Smith. Likewise, Brigham Young had the most specious claim to the leadership of the church. If I were to go back, I'd either join the Sydney Rigdon sect or the Strangite sect. But as such I don't believe any of it.
Quote : | "what are you now?" |
Atheist. But these aren't questions about mormonism
[Edited on February 22, 2007 at 6:45 PM. Reason : .]2/22/2007 6:45:27 PM |
OneNighter86 Suspended 8017 Posts user info edit post |
Whats the electric field of a protron traveling at 4E6m/s at a location 4E-2mm away 2/22/2007 6:45:31 PM |
poopface All American 29367 Posts user info edit post |
^ 2/22/2007 6:46:00 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
I only want questions about mormonism. 2/22/2007 6:46:18 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
Do you believe in hell? 2/22/2007 6:46:46 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you believe in hell?" |
Why would an atheist believe in hell?2/22/2007 6:47:42 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
my cousins are mormon
and they are odd people
I choose to avoid them at family get-togethers
why do they suck so bad? 2/22/2007 6:48:04 PM |
OneNighter86 Suspended 8017 Posts user info edit post |
lets say Mormon A is positivley charged with a charge 1E-16c... and he's traveling in the +Z direction with a speed of 2E5m/s... if Mormon B is standing 56mm away.. what is the electric field he will experience when he is perdpendicular to mormon A's path.... Mormon B is located in the ZY plane
[Edited on February 22, 2007 at 6:48 PM. Reason : .] 2/22/2007 6:48:22 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I didnt realize there were really any mormons outside of Utah 2/22/2007 6:48:59 PM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
^ hahaha & ^^
[Edited on February 22, 2007 at 6:49 PM. Reason : ^] 2/22/2007 6:49:12 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
Mormons believe that they are the only "true christians" correct?
Therefore it would mean that no other denomiation of Christianity would have a chance of reaching the highest kingdom. Right?
Also, mormons believe that you must do "good works" right? 2/22/2007 6:49:22 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Mormons believe that they are the only "true christians" correct?
Therefore it would mean that no other denomiation of Christianity would have a chance of reaching the highest kingdom. Right? " |
Mormons believe that they have the whole gospel restored through Joseph Smith. So naturally other denominations wouldn't be able to get to the Celestial Kingdom. They werne't baptized mormon and didn't have temple ordinaces done. This of course changes if they've had ordinances done for them after they die in the temples by proxy.
Quote : | "Also, mormons believe that you must do "good works" right?" |
naturally it is one of the key components of the religion.2/22/2007 6:52:27 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^ didnt they do that to Hitler? 2/22/2007 6:53:22 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ didnt they do that to Hitler?" |
many times over.2/22/2007 6:57:55 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
I mean I totally understand why people can think that believing the doctrines of Christianity is out there, but I mean I can't understand how people can believe the mormon doctrine. 2/22/2007 6:58:04 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean I totally understand why people can think that believing the doctrines of Christianity is out there, but I mean I can't understand how people can believe the mormon doctrine." |
The same way anyone believes a religion. They convince themselves it is true and it becomes true. it is a self fulfilling prophesy.2/22/2007 7:01:18 PM |
poopface All American 29367 Posts user info edit post |
^couldn't agree more 2/22/2007 7:02:07 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
Ah, I understand now! 2/22/2007 7:02:54 PM |
kdawg(c) Suspended 10008 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It isn't that it is the "right" bible. according to the mormons, it is the one that is translated more correctly. Joseph Smith before he was killed began writing the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible in which he claimed god was revealing to him the correct translation due to either lost material or wrongly written material." |
hmm....interesting....it sounds like it wasn't God's will for Joseph Smith to translate that "bible"...wonder why2/22/2007 7:12:18 PM |
ImYoPusha All American 6249 Posts user info edit post |
no your thoughts and opinions are wrong okay 2/22/2007 7:13:09 PM |
Scud1 Veteran 409 Posts user info edit post |
Joseph Smith did rewrite the bible before he died. It is not accepted by the LDS chruch but is it accepted by the RLDS (Community of Christ) church. 2/22/2007 7:26:06 PM |
Scud1 Veteran 409 Posts user info edit post |
Here is a link about the JST of the Bible
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_Translation_of_the_Bible
Please make sure you have your facts straight before you answer a question. 2/22/2007 7:28:14 PM |
begonias warning: not serious 19581 Posts user info edit post |
Can you please explain the magic underwear thing? 2/22/2007 8:17:05 PM |
blah All American 4532 Posts user info edit post |
it has something to do with pillow pants 2/22/2007 8:19:10 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42557 Posts user info edit post |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment_(Mormonism)
Quote : | "The garment is thought to symbolize the "coats of skins" which Jehovah (Yahweh) made for Adam and Eve before casting them out of the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:21). It is worn, in part, to remind adherents that they have made special oaths and covenants to God. Members of the LDS Church today are commonly clothed in the garments, together with outer temple clothing, for burial. The garment and the covenants made in conjunction with it are believed to be a spiritual "shield and protection" against the powers of evil (and sometimes against physical harm, according to some Latter-day Saints)." |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Magic+Underwear
Quote : | "1. Magic Underwear 47 up, 25 down A garment worn by extremely devout followers of the the mormon cult. It is basically a set of long underwear but the mormons beleive it protects them from evil. Some peole might try and argue that it isn't called magic underwear but if it really protects you from evil then its gotta be magic.
You want an example? I donno, ask a mormon for one the next time one comes to your door to convert you.
2. magic underwear 34 up, 37 down Underwear of the mormon religion. Also known as Garments or simply G's. These Magic underwear give mormons the power of flight, invisibility, x-ray vision and gardening. Don't ask a mormon about his majic underwear or you will be attacked by an army of scary happy plastic robots
Man, good thing I had on my magic underwear, or I would have been killed when that steam-roller rolled over me." |
This seems to be an interesting site:
http://www.exmormon.org/2/22/2007 8:52:44 PM |
Scud1 Veteran 409 Posts user info edit post |
The best place to get all the correct information about a topic is from someone who has been kicked out and has resentment towards them.
And I thought the people here were supposed to be educated
If want to learn about/have questions about catholics do I go ask an ex-catholic or a priest? 2/22/2007 9:00:57 PM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
Is there a leadership of the morman church, like the catholics?
Or is it a free for all like the protestants? 2/22/2007 9:08:59 PM |
ashley_grl All American 4051 Posts user info edit post |
Mormon fight!!!!!!! 2/22/2007 9:13:35 PM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
all the mormons I knew were really nice 2/23/2007 2:04:20 AM |
waffleninja Suspended 11394 Posts user info edit post |
how do i get in on this polygamy scam? 2/23/2007 3:12:24 AM |
MalikDaMan All American 1445 Posts user info edit post |
Is there any way I can keep my dumbass husband from giving me a baptism for the dead after I kick it? Or do I have to wait until he does it, then come back from Valhalla and beat the crap out of him? 2/23/2007 3:48:46 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Joseph Smith did rewrite the bible before he died. It is not accepted by the LDS chruch but is it accepted by the RLDS (Community of Christ) church." |
It is is in the Pearl of Great Price, so it is accepted by the LDS church in Salt Lake City. I did not realize that he had completed the entire translations of the bible.
Quote : | "hmm....interesting....it sounds like it wasn't God's will for Joseph Smith to translate that "bible"...wonder why" |
sounds like you are an idiot.
Quote : | "The best place to get all the correct information about a topic is from someone who has been kicked out and has resentment towards them." |
I don't hold a complete resentment. Over certain things I do. But right now you are falling into the Monson/Packer trap. The fact of the matter is ex-mormons have tended to do more research into the church than the rank and file. We are a better source of information than FAIR or FARMS.
Quote : | "Is there a leadership of the morman church, like the catholics?
Or is it a free for all like the protestants?" |
Yes, there is leadership.
Quote : | "Is there any way I can keep my dumbass husband from giving me a baptism for the dead after I kick it? Or do I have to wait until he does it, then come back from Valhalla and beat the crap out of him?" |
No, just like I cannot prevent my family from rebaptizing me when I die.
Quote : | "Can you please explain the magic underwear thing?" |
Najeeb is correct about the temple garmets representing the coats of skins. They contain the temple markins of the square and compass and the square and compass are to be destroyed before the garmets are thrown away.2/23/2007 6:54:41 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds Masonic 2/23/2007 7:26:09 AM |