markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
List guys giving impressive NFL combine performances that can't get it done in games here.
I'll start with Greg Olsen, TE from the U. http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/olsen_greg
4.51 40 at the combine. 2/25/2007 8:12:31 AM |
APCrook All American 1453 Posts user info edit post |
Robert Gallery 2/25/2007 9:57:22 AM |
jordanfromnj All American 1177 Posts user info edit post |
they said olsen ran a 4.4 and then a 4.8 2/25/2007 10:11:33 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
40 times are a joke anyway. most of the guys there are too stupid to operate a stopwatch correctly. 2/25/2007 10:20:13 AM |
DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
thats why they time the 40's with computers. combine 40's are as accurate as they get. 2/25/2007 11:31:58 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^^ and most people are too stupid to realize they don't use stopwatches at the combine 2/25/2007 11:47:52 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
ahahahaha 2/25/2007 11:49:33 AM |
joshua lor All American 2124 Posts user info edit post |
^^^im betting the IAAF would disagree 2/25/2007 12:00:00 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ niiiiiiiiiiiiice 2/25/2007 12:05:04 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
He's no Mike Mamula as far as combine freak is concerned. 2/25/2007 12:05:09 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "combine 40's are as accurate as they get." |
Bullshit
Virginia Tech's 40's are as accurate as they get. Everyone on that team runs a 4.2, even offensive linemen. Fuck what the combine says!2/25/2007 12:09:02 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Remind me, when was a 4.5 40 at the combine impressive? 2/25/2007 12:32:14 PM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
Tight end 2/25/2007 12:39:44 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
A legit 4.5 is flying for a tight end. That's faster than a lot of wide recievers 2/25/2007 12:43:49 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
A legit 4.5 is flying for a white guy 2/25/2007 12:49:13 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/10019715
Quote : | "Group 3 (TE) -- Top Eight Results: 40-Yard Dash 1. Greg Olsen Miami (Fla.) 4.51 2. Michael Allan Whitworth 4.71 3. Gijon Robinson Missouri Western St. 4.71 4. Ben Patrick Delaware 4.74 5. Derek Schouman Boise St. 4.74 6. Dante Rosario Oregon 4.76 7. Kevin Boss Western Oregon 4.78 8. Scott Chandler Iowa 4.78" |
2/25/2007 1:57:12 PM |
bkhardee All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
pretty cool story.. they were saying that Michael Allan kid was the first D-3 player since around 2003 i think so be invited to the Combine 2/25/2007 1:58:42 PM |
akaseinfeld All American 1608 Posts user info edit post |
olsen's lowest was a 4.47, I watched it live, and that was the time, plus they talked about it yesterday on ESPN. 2/25/2007 2:10:34 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
you 40 times 2/25/2007 2:14:39 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Chris Henry, RB from Arizona, weighs over 230 lbs and just ran a 4.33 40, pretty impressive. Probably the next combine freak.
[Edited on February 25, 2007 at 2:29 PM. Reason : .] 2/25/2007 2:28:49 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Did eleusis know something again? And by know something, I mean, not really know what the fuck he was talking about? 2/25/2007 2:34:29 PM |
WayneGro Suspended 449 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ and most people are too stupid to realize they don't use stopwatches at the combine" |
I've seen multiple people (scouts) on the sidelines with stopwatches. There is a such thing as an "unofficial clocking" ya know. And some of those clockings are dead accurate.
[Edited on February 25, 2007 at 2:41 PM. Reason : .]2/25/2007 2:34:49 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
if only there was a combine thread already started... 2/25/2007 3:25:21 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
^^ moron
[Edited on February 25, 2007 at 3:34 PM. Reason : hjj] 2/25/2007 3:31:48 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
Quinn
From ESPN
Quote : | "What the scouts have found in their exposure to Quinn this week is a bright, well-prepared player. He is a quarterback who has played and won big games" |
Ummm, what big games did he ever win? Winless in bowl games, never beat USC.
[Edited on February 25, 2007 at 6:21 PM. Reason : .]2/25/2007 6:18:30 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, the big knock on Quinn is that he hasn't won the big game. The NFL Network guys were talking about it. Whether or not losing the big games is his fault is debatable. 2/25/2007 6:33:37 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
he won one big game - tenn in his soph (I think) year 2/25/2007 6:49:29 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ummm, what big games did he ever win? Winless in bowl games, never beat USC." |
well there was the Michigan game this year . . . oh wait 2/25/2007 6:55:27 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah, the big knock on Quinn is that he hasn't won the big game. The NFL Network guys were talking about it. Whether or not losing the big games is his fault is debatable." |
2/25/2007 7:11:47 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
I guess I need to post information showing how inaccurate 40 times are again, since there are so many dumbasses in this thread. state409c included.
there is not one single fucking person in the NFL that runs a sub 4.3 second 40 time, and there is no way in hell a TE ran a 4.5s 40. 2/25/2007 8:53:47 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
yes there is
it happened 2/25/2007 8:58:06 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.olympic-usa.org/11611_32384.htm
Quote : | "There is no official world record for 40 yards.
The shortest distance that the IAAF, track and field's international governing body, recognizes for world-record purposes is an indoor 50 meters, or about 54 yards. It is 5.56 seconds and it was set by Canadian sprinter Donovan Bailey in 1996. There is also a world record for 60 meters -- 6.39 seconds by American Maurice Greene in 1998.
But it is another Canadian, Ben Johnson, who is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson is best known for injecting copious amounts of steroids and winning the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.
Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 -- both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.
He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with hundreds of millions of people watching on TV . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.
And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol. " |
now, you can continue to blabber on like the incompetent morons that you are, or you can admit how fucking stupid it is to look at 40 times. most reported 40 times are done off of a stopwatch operater in the stands that report the time at the first movement of the athlete. it takes the body over a tenth of a second to translate the optical input into a muscle movement. also, most stopwatch operaters use their thumbs instead of their forefinger for measuring time, and the thumb takes two tenths of a second longer to operate than the forefinger. you do the math.
[Edited on February 25, 2007 at 9:00 PM. Reason : but you're right, half the NFL is faster]2/25/2007 8:58:23 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
stanazolol 2/25/2007 9:44:07 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
great thread title 2/25/2007 10:15:46 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I guess I need to post information showing how inaccurate 40 times are again, since there are so many dumbasses in this thread. state409c included." |
Christ dude, you sent me a PM and everything.
It isn't even about whether you were right or wrong, it was about trolling you around the fact that you are indeed one of the biggest fucking "know-it-alls" on this site.2/25/2007 11:35:25 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
He is right about the fact that NFL times are misreported.
If you put NFL athletes up against track and field athletes they get smoked.
However, this is an apples to apples scenario so it really only matters what a guy's reported time is since he is being compared to other people's times who were recorded just as inaccurately. 2/26/2007 5:04:28 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
^^it's nice to see you admit just how fucking wrong you are. 2/26/2007 9:35:06 AM |
montclair All American 1372 Posts user info edit post |
^^ first logical post in this thread 2/26/2007 9:40:42 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
the only time 40 times are apples to apples comparisons is at the combine, since it is done in an indoor field with the same equipment used for everyone. even though the number isn't correct because of the lasers operating after the player has already got a running start, it's still accurate across the board. However, a lot of people at the combine get hurt by their combine time due to other athletes that don't even go to the combine and have unofficial 40 times spread.
just look at what the 40 time did to Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith. 2/26/2007 9:44:36 AM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^it's nice to see you admit just how fucking wrong you are." |
You still don't get it you halfwit. I was trolling you from the beginning. I didn't even read what the debate was about, I just saw where skokiaan replied to you, and kiljadn laughed and I posted that you were wrong.
Christ you're thickheaded.
Fucking look at you, you're still debating some inane pointless shit, that no one really cares about, not even people in this thread.
[Edited on February 26, 2007 at 9:49 AM. Reason : a]2/26/2007 9:49:12 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
it's good to know that you take comfort in siding with uneducated dumbasses. 2/26/2007 11:08:02 AM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
It feels like the womb!!! 2/26/2007 11:32:19 AM |