Significant annual growth in China's military expenditures (double digit); modernization of China's military in space weapons, submarines and even aircraft carriers (offensive capability). Are we headed towards military confrontation with China?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070309/ap_on_re_as/china_army_of_influence

3/9/2007 5:43:11 PM

god i hope so!!

3/9/2007 6:12:29 PM

Why would this wager a military confrontation? Are they not allowed to increase and modernize their military?

3/9/2007 6:12:29 PM

Time for a preemptive attack.

n/m China would absolutely fuck us up. Their military would outnumber our entire population.

3/9/2007 6:19:56 PM

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/pubs/testimonies/1998/6-17.html

3/9/2007 6:49:56 PM

Let China do what it wants, they're many years away from being able to threaten us anywhere outside Asia, and probably further still from being in a place where it wouldn't ruin them to alienate us.

3/9/2007 6:53:30 PM

I am in favor of being on the good side of any country with 1 billion + people

3/9/2007 7:05:51 PM

you know, them Chinese people have all been trained to simultaneously jump up and down at the sounding of the "doomsday bell".

the vibrations will cause massive tidal waves, earthquakes and volcanoes to destroy North America.

3/9/2007 7:18:05 PM

china does not have a blue water navy anywhere close enough to threaten our naval supremecy, with out one they are only a continental power

"talk of building AN aircraft carrier"

we have a fucking fleet

[Edited on March 10, 2007 at 12:39 AM. Reason : .]

3/10/2007 12:37:31 AM

and all this time i thought this thread was about the wolfpack

3/10/2007 12:39:53 AM

I mean...that's a big fuckin' continent.

3/10/2007 4:42:46 AM

The Chinese can't afford to mess with us, and we can't afford to mess with them. We're too deep in each other's pockets.

3/10/2007 10:23:22 AM

confucius say: country with hands in pockets feel cocky all day

3/10/2007 1:07:23 PM

Quote :

"n/m China would absolutely fuck us up."

[NO]

3/10/2007 1:24:17 PM

I've been saying this for months here and for years elsewhere. Where have you been?

US-China Economic and Security Review Commission
August 3-4, 2006 testimony

Quote :

"Thank you. I want to say how much I appreciate and support this Commission. Your hard work has given us the information we need to get an accurate picture of the very puzzling issue of China’s growth. I have long followed your work, and continue to utilize your expertise. Last year I gave four floor speeches on China’s growing global influence and the impact this has on our national security. These issues covered a broad spectrum, from alarming military modernization to the lack of economic accountability. I testified before this Commission--it was a very concerning picture then, and while the media has turned its attention to other issues, the threat continues to grow. China is sustaining a 10% economic growth for some years now. Their oil consumption (and need) continues to rise exponentially, doubling and doubling again. China’s military spending growth has been in the double-digits for almost two decades, and that isn’t including large portions that we know they are hiding."

Senator James M. Inhofe

http://www.uscc.gov/hearings/2006hearings/written_testimonies/06_08_3_4wrts/06_08_3_4_inhofr_senator_statement.php

And others have been saying this for many years:



PS: The book listed above was published in 1999.

[Edited on March 10, 2007 at 1:41 PM. Reason : V Typically partisan response. Try to focus.]

3/10/2007 1:24:36 PM

James Inhofe has been too busy going on talk shows and saying that global warming is a myth. Perhaps if he would have spent more time on this, we would have a little more news on it.

3/10/2007 1:34:36 PM

china doesn't need a military...if they want to win they should just stop making your shit =P

3/10/2007 1:40:34 PM

China should just send immigrants here.

Buy up land and build like a million houses (or just buy them) over the course of a couple of years, then all of a sudden, just send over some immigrants.

3/10/2007 2:40:14 PM

Quote :

"The Chinese can't afford to mess with us, and we can't afford to mess with them. We're too deep in each other's pockets."

Flawless logic. Of course, it didn't seem to prevent the first World War.

When people find a good escuse to kill each other, "self interest" and "economics" go right out the window.

3/11/2007 4:32:01 AM

If China wanted to take over the US, they'd have a much easier time doing it economically.

In other words, given our fiscal irresponsibility and the amount of US money flowing in that direction, pretty soon, they can just buy America.

3/11/2007 6:52:36 AM

Really bad title...RSR is about fighting the Russians.

3/11/2007 10:44:47 AM

all dem commies is red

3/11/2007 11:54:01 AM

Cute sentiment, BobbyDigital, but life doesn't often work that way. If they actually tried to buy everything the price would quickly big up, eating their cash and leaving them with overpriced land. This is what happened to the Japanese which, ultimately, suffered huge losses due to their American realestate investments, most of which had to be sold off in a fire-sale during their 1994 banking crisis.

3/11/2007 1:14:34 PM

China is the reason why we should not have our military spread so thin.

3/11/2007 3:19:37 PM

Because violence is always the answer.

3/11/2007 3:33:20 PM

Quote :

"Because violence is always the answer."

Who said it was?

3/11/2007 3:43:14 PM

Well you don't advocate an increase in military spending to hold a bake sale.

3/11/2007 4:35:01 PM

While I seriously doubt that China has any intention of invading or destroying the United States, I see three possible scenarios for limited war with China. One would be a conflict over Taiwan. I don't imagine any real ground action for American troops, but I can see the mother of all dogfights and some serious naval action between a couple of our carrier groups and the PLA Navy. The second would be a repeat of the Korean War, with a combined South Korean-US military force battling the North Koreans and Chinese forces. I think this is much less likely to happen though since China is beginning to shy away from the current North Korean government. The final possibility is some conflict involving the Japanese. If China decides its going to start dropping bombs on Japan (perhaps a spillover from a fight over the Senkaku / Diaoyutai Islands) we could get sucked in.

Most likely though, Chinese military modernization is a threat for its immediate neighbors: Japan, Russia, India, Vietnam, and the Koreas. Given that the People's Republic of China has fought with each of them at one point or another over the last seventy years, most of their neighbors tend to be a touch uneasy of any big military upgrade.

The real threat is that in the event of conflict, a war between the United States and China may potentially go nuclear. China has ICBMs capable of striking the United States, and while they don't have the numbers to melt our entire nation into a sheet of glass, they're more than capable of wiping out a good 20 to 30 of our largest cities. While I seriously doubt either side will go nuclear, it only takes one misunderstanding for someone to hit the red button.

3/11/2007 4:50:12 PM

3/11/2007 5:22:52 PM

I know, I read it a long time ago

I was hoping there was another Clancy fan out there

3/11/2007 6:34:33 PM

in communist China children ride in car w/o booster seats. Oh the horror.

3/11/2007 7:56:30 PM

^ what's wrong with you?

do you do that much? unrelated tangential rants?

you know, that's symptomatic of the onset of schizophrenia. which tends to first present in the early- to mid-twenties.

you might want to have that checked.

3/11/2007 8:32:43 PM

^Somehow, you overreacted to a seemingly harmless statement.

3/12/2007 11:09:14 AM

I feel sorry for Taiwan. They got sold out by Nixon, and they're gonna get forcefully annexed at some point, and the U.S. are going to stand on the sidelines and do nothing.

3/12/2007 1:12:12 PM

^^ yeah it happens a lot, apparently.

im gonna go get checked out for Tourettes.

3/12/2007 1:16:16 PM

Why don't we give them fucking Taiwan already.

3/12/2007 2:41:06 PM