Hey,

i cant remember where but i read about somebody making a 7/8th scale nascar and running it.... any body know what im talkin about?

4/21/2007 9:02:38 PM

Theres no way you could do this. At least for as long as they've been using the metal templates to check the shape of the car... Inspection would pick it up in a heart beat. Also the length and width would be off, and those are both checked during tech inspections.

I'm assuming by "and running it" you mean in a nascar race. Cause if you just mean making it and driving it, thats pretty easy.

4/21/2007 11:24:08 PM

because it wouldn't look funny out there next to the rest of them

4/22/2007 2:17:02 AM

this was years ago, 70s era shit.

4/22/2007 9:00:45 AM

^^^ they did it, but it was a while back. they'd never get away with it now.

4/22/2007 9:57:12 AM

5 seconds in google:

Quote :

"Whether it really happened or not, Yunick can still be credited with creating some of the most innovative racecars on the circuit. Yunick is reputed to have had a hand in a car built for Cotton Owens at Daytona that was dramatically faster than any of the other cars. The engine was torn apart, and the car was weighed. NASCAR could not find any satisfactory explanation for the cars' performance. Still, there was something that just didn't look right about the car. Finally, an alert inspector brought in a showroom model of the car. It turned out that Yunick had built a car to 7/8 scale, allowing it to be aerodynamically superior than it's showroom counterpart, or any other car on the track, for that matter. This "innovation" gave birth to the Template that NASCAR henceforth used to check the legal dimensions of the cars."

http://members.aol.com/jalan5000a/com0046.html

4/22/2007 3:39:42 PM

Yunick = Legend

4/22/2007 3:57:28 PM

Yarbourough had a good cheater car too.

4/22/2007 4:12:43 PM

Haha, guess it was done. Figures it was Yunick too. I think he had a reputation for trying to cheat in odd ways didn't he?

4/22/2007 4:13:15 PM

he prefers beat the rule book

4/22/2007 4:13:59 PM

there's always ppl that cheat just to see if they can get away with it. There's a few ppl at autox that had stories like that of where people would mask stuff as looking like stock, in full detail.

I remember someone telling of a guy that had two old muscle cars that he had, one was completely stock, the other was not, and they both looked exactly the same. after the inspectors made sure the car was stock, he'd swap them out and just dominate. Kinda got caught on after the 1st few events.

4/22/2007 4:20:32 PM

my faves are the old cars that were intentionally cast for cheaters.
i mean the heads on our 427 are ford castings .... they put enough metal in them to put +.1" valves in them and port the hell out of them

4/22/2007 4:26:03 PM

yea my dads got a set of mopar t/a or aar heads with the offset intake valves but hed rather sit on them and sell than let me slice em up for racing. i like the bling i ended up with tho.

4/23/2007 12:41:22 AM

Quote :

"The engine was torn apart, and the car was weighed...It turned out that Yunick had built a car to 7/8 scale, allowing it to be aerodynamically superior than it's showroom counterpart "

huh? A 7/8 scale car weighing the same as the full scale? aerodynamically superior? sounds like he just chop-topped it

4/23/2007 9:52:53 AM

making it 7/8 scale would give it substantially less frontal area

even though it would have the same Cd, the aero drag would be a lot less

and making it the same weight would be easy...hell, stock cars have lead ballast in them to meet the requisite weight, anyway...and that could also buy you a stiffer chassis, etc.



i think my favorite was when someone (Richard Petty's crew chief, i think) rigged the car to use the tube chassis as an auxilliary fuel tank.

4/23/2007 10:16:11 AM

I have seen one of these, they are crazy lookin.

4/23/2007 10:30:51 AM

The fuel line chassis was after smokey had used a 1" rubber fuel line and had it coiled up in the car. It wasnt cheating, there just wasnt a spec on it in the book, yet. Smokey also built a counter-rotating engine to counteract the inerita of the rotating assembly, which makes the cars harder to turn in the corners. it worked well until post race when all the racers had to turn in their cam shafts for inspection. Smokey knew hed get busted so he broke the cam over a park bench, and gave them two lobes, so they could measure lift and duration, they just didnt know they had it backwards. he wrote a huge book about all of his adventures with mexican road racing and nascar. he also made a fiero get 50 mpg or close to it.

4/24/2007 7:22:37 AM

This thread shoudnt exist, people need to learn how to damend google something.

4/24/2007 7:46:57 AM

lead shot was a good one to.

4/24/2007 8:06:07 AM