Does this stuff actually work?

http://tinyurl.com/2mp2oy

4/29/2007 6:22:20 PM

What do you mean, "does it work"? It's a multivitamin. What do you think it's claiming to do?

4/29/2007 6:25:29 PM

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"It also provides all the naturally occurring active constituents of whole foods."

So, can I stop eating my veggies if I start taking these pills?

4/29/2007 6:27:57 PM

Extremely doubtful.

4/29/2007 6:33:38 PM

4/29/2007 6:39:25 PM

I use Greens+ powder. Its been a great product for me. I just mix it into my post-workout shake. I'm not a fan of the taste when mixed with just water or juice, but if you hide it well enough you should be fine.

4/29/2007 8:13:04 PM

David I think either way that massive 130 pound frame of yours won't take too many hits.

4/29/2007 8:14:21 PM

I need to maintain my girlish figure.

4/29/2007 10:30:19 PM

As I understand it, it's marketed by a group afiliated with Quickstar aka Amway aka NOT TO BE TRUSTED

Personally, I think it's crap and if you want a good supplement the go to GNC and talk to them.

4/29/2007 11:34:16 PM

soylent green is people

5/1/2007 12:29:28 PM

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"Personally, I think it's crap and if you want a good supplement the go to GNC and talk to them. "

anyone that thinks good supplements come from GNC needs to have either their head or their wallet examined.

5/1/2007 12:39:19 PM

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"anyone that thinks good supplements come from GNC needs to have either their head or their wallet examined."

seconded

5/1/2007 1:26:00 PM

So, can you two suggest a good one for me?

5/1/2007 1:28:11 PM

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"anyone that thinks good supplements come from GNC needs to have either their head or their wallet examined."

thirded ?


multivitamins are great to take, but you don't get the same benefits from those vitamins and mineral supplements that you do when you eat the food it actually comes in.
i would try eating vegetables.

[Edited on May 1, 2007 at 1:29 PM. Reason : ]

5/1/2007 1:28:33 PM

^Yeah, actually eating vegetables and fruits is indeed the best option.

The literature suggests that this is generally superior to taking supplements.

5/1/2007 1:30:37 PM

Damn.

5/1/2007 1:33:24 PM

just buy a cheap generic multivitamin from walmart or Sam's Club / BJ's and used it as a supplement to your normal vegetable intake. multivitamins aren't going to provide you with things like fiber, potassium, and calcium that you need from dietary intake.

[Edited on May 1, 2007 at 1:34 PM. Reason : it's possible to cut vegetables out of a diet, but I'm not going to recommend it.]

5/1/2007 1:33:34 PM

and it's not just that you get adequate amounts of fiber, potatssium, or vitamin C...is that you get them in conjunction with other nutrients that they're normally found with. most research shows that individually taken vitamins, minerals, whathaveyou are not as effective unless they are taken with all of the other nutrients commonly found in vegetables. so...spinach is a good source of vitamin A, B6, E, folic acid, potassium, zinc, and magnesium...and you can take those things separately but you really get the benefits when you eat them along with the antioxidants, amino acids, etc in the spinach.

okay, long story short: eat your spinach.

5/1/2007 1:39:09 PM

besides it tastes good

5/1/2007 1:42:08 PM

NEVER!

5/1/2007 1:52:09 PM

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"I use Greens+ powder. Its been a great product for me."

Greens+ is good stuff, but I prefer Green Vibrance.

http://www.vibranthealth.org/gv.html

It's cheaper at Vitamin Shoppe from what I've found. I highly suggest trying it. OJ is probably the best thing to mix it in, but Gatorade and other juices work too.

5/1/2007 1:56:00 PM

Ok, now we're talking.

5/1/2007 1:59:42 PM

Yeah man...Check out the ingredient list. It's good stuff. I eat a salad or two per day, but I don't feel that I eat enough veggies, much less enough of the leafy greens. This combines those missing veggies with all the algaes, etc. that people say is so good for you.

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" Amount per 11.47 gm Serving Nutrient Dense, Healing and Support Foods Spirulina (certified organic) 1,500 mg. Alfalfa grass juice powder (certified organic) 500 mg. Barley grass juice powder (certified organic) 500 mg. Oat grass juice powder (certified organic) 500 mg. Wheat grass juice powder (certified organic) 500 mg. Hydrilla verticillata (wild crafted) 500 mg. Alfalfa sprout powder (certified organic) 440 mg. Kamut® grass juice powder (certified organic) 400 mg. Chlorella, pharmaceutical grade, soft cell 350 mg. Parsley powder, freeze dried (certified organic) 250 mg. Zucchini powder, freeze dried 250 mg. Beet juice powder (certified organic) 200 mg. Okra powder, freeze dried 120 mg. Carrot root powder (certified organic) 120 mg. Broccoli sprout powder (certified organic) 100 mg. Royal jelly powder (6% 10 HDA) 150 mg. Midwestern bee pollen 150 mg. Spinach, freeze dried (certified organic) 100 mg. Cell Membrane & Nerve Support Lecithin powder (Soy, non-GMO), 98% oil-free 750 mg. Vitamin E (water dispersible d-alpha-tocopheryl succinate) 150 i.u. Policosanol (60% Octacosanol; from rice bran wax) 5 mg. High-Fiber Foods & Prebiotics Larch arabinogalactan (FiberAid™ AG) 500 mg. Stabilized Brown rice Bran 500 mg. Fructo-oligosaccharides 500 mg. Whole Apple powder (certified organic) 250 mg. Milled Flaxseed concentrate (certified organic, de-oiled) 200 mg. Antioxidants and Circulatory Support Acerola berry juice powder (25% natural vitamin C, certified organic) 200 mg. Silymarin milk thistle extract (80% silybin: Silibum marianum) 60 mg. Ginkgo biloba extract (24% gingkoflavonglycosides, 6% terpene lactones) 20 mg. Green tea standardized extract (95% polyphenols, 80% catechins, 45% EGCG) 20 mg. Grape seed standardized extract (95% polyphenols, 90% proanthocyanidins) 20 mg. Adaptogens Schizandra berry extract (2% schizandrin) 100 mg. Suma powder (Pfaffia paniculata) 60 mg. Eleutherococcus senticosus extract (0.8% eleutherosides) 60 mg. Immune Support Astragalus membranaceus extract (70% polysaccharides) 60 mg. Larch arabinogalactan (ImmunEnhancer™ AG) 30 mg. Beta 1,3 - 1,6 glucans (yeast) 30 mg. Sea Vegetable Complex (providing 231 mcg. Iodine + trace minerals) Nova Scotia Dulse (certified organic) 360 mg. Bladderwrack (wild harvested) 360 mg. Rockweed (certified organic) 180 mg. Probiotic Blend Eight (8) Dairy-free Probiotic Cultures (18 billion total at date of manufacture) Lactobacillus rhamnosus HA-111 2.25 billion Lactobacillus rhamnosus B, HA-114 2.25 billion Lactobacillus acidophilus HA-122 4.5 billion Bifidobacterium bifidum HA-132 2.25 billion Bifidobacterium breve HA-129 2.25 billion Bifidobacterium longum HA-135 1.80 billion Lactobacillus helveticus HA-128 1.35 billion Lactobacillus paracasei HA-108 1.35 billion Enzyme Complex Protease 4.5, (Aspergillus oryzae) 110 HUT Protease 6.0, (Aspergillus oryzae) 110 HUT Lipase (Aspergillus niger) 150 FCCLU Amylase (Aspergillus oryzae) 6 DU Invertase (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) 1 SU Cellulase (Trichoderma longbrachiatum) 7 CU Phyto-Minerals Phyto-Boron (patented, from calcium fructo borate) 3 mg. Phyto-Chromium (from Indian mustard, hydroponically grown) 80 mcg. Phyto-Selenium (from Indian mustard, hydroponically grown) 50 mcg. Tonics Ginger root powder (certified organic) 20 mg. Cayenne pepper powder (Capsicum fr.; certified organic) 2 mg. Palatability Mango powder (freeze dried) 100 mg."

5/1/2007 2:03:50 PM

^ ok some things in it are good, because you won't be eating those things ever.

but all the vegetable and fruit freeze dried powders, they are useless:

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"Parsley powder, freeze dried (certified organic) 250 mg. Zucchini powder, freeze dried 250 mg. Beet juice powder (certified organic) 200 mg. Okra powder, freeze dried 120 mg. Carrot root powder (certified organic) 120 mg. Broccoli sprout powder (certified organic) 100 mg."

i mean, they are all well under a gram... and you can get hundreds of grams of each just by eating some of the vegetables and fruits themselves.

5/1/2007 3:55:52 PM

A gram of dried powder would be equivalent to an ounce of the real thing, and freeze drying a food isn't going to remove the nutritional value it provides.

5/1/2007 3:59:24 PM

i know freeze drying protects the nutrients... i never said it didn't.

but are you really saying that 1 gram of powder = 28 grams of real thing?



are you saying that out of 28 grams of any vegetable/fruit, 27 grams is water?

5/1/2007 4:06:21 PM

for some of those ingredients listed, it's close. most of them are probably anywhere from 70-95% water in their natural form. I know that's not exactly an ounce, but I was just using approximations of whole units of measurement.

5/1/2007 4:24:06 PM

Even if you can technically get the nutrients from these pills, do you think it's possible to be really healthy without ever eating anything other than meat, cheese, and carbohydrates like bread, brown rice, and pasta?

I think that's what David wants to do, but I just don't think it's possible. You're either going to get too much fat, too much protein, too many calories, not enough fiber, etc, etc. Pills can't be a substitute for balanced meals.

5/1/2007 4:29:27 PM

salads are tasty.

5/1/2007 4:39:34 PM

^^ No vegetarian bias in my thread!

5/1/2007 4:45:30 PM

I didn't write that as a vegetarian. I wrote it as a person with a perspective on what it takes to be healthy.

5/1/2007 4:49:09 PM

Go back to drinking your Corona.

5/1/2007 4:54:26 PM

the key component is spirulina, that's where most of the nutrition is coming from...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirulina_%28dietary_supplement%29

5/1/2007 5:09:54 PM

^ Yeah, Spirulina was one of the key components that I looked for in all the green dranks that I've tried. It really is an amazing food.

As for the other stuff, I eat anywhere from three to six servings of fruit per day and at least one or two salads. I try to cook asparagus and broccoli fairly often, but I don't get enough of it. I take a multivitamin (One-A-Day Mens Forumula), but I have always felt that I'm missing out a lot on the veggies; especially the leafy greens.

I just consider Green Vibrance to be a good supplement to my diet. It only has around 45 calories per serving and I like the taste; so I just mix it in with some other juice that I happen to be drinking that day. I've turned several people on to it and most of the people that use it for a few days get hooked and consider it a part of their normal diet as well.

5/2/2007 12:21:16 AM