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http://tinyurl.com/2nbgz6

I don't feel safer
The Saudi's do a better job of catching and stopping terrorist than we do
Countless innocent Iraqis dead
3000+ of our own dead
10s of thousands more being forced to stay in shitty medical care conditions
Extended stays

Is that what my dollars bought?



[Edited on April 29, 2007 at 10:55 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on April 29, 2007 at 11:23 PM. Reason : a]

4/29/2007 10:54:36 PM

eyedrb
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yep, be sure to vote for those shitty medical conditions for yourself. But its "free"

4/29/2007 10:56:44 PM

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I guess they didn't buy you a decent enough public education

4/29/2007 11:04:26 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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I'm curious...just how many terrorist attacks have taken place in the US since 9/11???

4/29/2007 11:05:19 PM

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Does the guy running people over at UNC count?


^^^ http://www.who.int/ncd_surveillance/infobase/web/InfoBasePolicyMaker/CountryProfiles/QuickCompare.aspx?DM=10&Countries=124%2c840&Year=2002&sf1=mo.cg.000&Sex=all
Canada seems to be pretty good off with their socialized medicine

4/29/2007 11:08:15 PM

eyedrb
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yep, why they PAY to have procedures in the US and cant keep doctors. Americans LOVE waitlists...love em.

They need to let the state implement thier own socialized medicine first, let them fail before putting up a national plan.

what dont you like about your healthcare?

4/29/2007 11:11:15 PM

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I'm undecided on the socialized healthcare (i've never actually needed a doctor so I guess I like my healthcare fine).

But, I've yet to see anything more than assertion from the anti-socialized healthcare crowd. Just by the numbers, it seems people would be healthier if we had Canada's system.

4/29/2007 11:14:17 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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I wish the pseudo socialist wannabe TWWers would flee to their Cuban paradise and receive the best in free health care.

4/29/2007 11:14:44 PM

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Me speaka da bad English? Unpossible!

It was too late to cancel the post going through for me to change it. I still make tons more cash than any UNC or NCSU English major

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"I'm curious...just how many terrorist attacks have taken place in the US since 9/11???"


I noe right?! Thank Allah the Saudi's have our back. Despite all the new terrorists we created, they are managing to clean up our mess. I guess that is the least they could do for this war of higher oil prices we created, right?

4/29/2007 11:15:47 PM

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I guess Cho Seung-Hui isn't a terrorist either since he's not a Muslim

[Edited on April 29, 2007 at 11:25 PM. Reason : ]

4/29/2007 11:19:43 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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What was your excuse pre-9/11? It's always America's fault. Please flee to Cuba ASAP.

4/29/2007 11:20:00 PM

moron
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The war in Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism, and it's made us less safe.

4/29/2007 11:21:06 PM

State409c
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I don't really play the blame game. Sure, this admin could have payed better attention, but before that point in time, I don't think anyone in the universe could have imagined that happened, despite all the intelligence that sorta indicated it.


Do you have any of your own commentary, or do you copy and paste exclusively from billoreilly.com?

4/29/2007 11:22:57 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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Maybe if you got up long enough from sucking Soros' dick maybe you'd be able to comprehend what I'm saying.

4/29/2007 11:24:26 PM

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I DON'T EVEN LIKE THE DEMOCRATS YOU STUPID MONGOLOID TREETWISTA CLONE. GO FUCK YOURSELF IF THATS THE BEST YOU CAN DO.

YOU'RE KILLING THIS FUCKING SECTION WITH YOUR INCESSANT PARTISAN HACKERY.

FUCK.

4/29/2007 11:26:37 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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So you suggest partisanship, which is perfectly fine, and I question your own and I'm the prick.

You're a puny hypocritical little bitch. You're not even worth my time posting, like a shit stain on my toilet paper.

4/29/2007 11:27:57 PM

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Wlfpk4Life is NOT a treetwista clone, treetwista is MUCH smarter (usually).

4/29/2007 11:28:06 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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And moron always lives up to his username. Congrats!

4/29/2007 11:28:56 PM

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wow, i read that whole link, and it is just maddening.

here are the BEST parts. those who don't want to read it all should read this connected sequence of excerpts:

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"Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh, commander of the Gulf Region Division of the Army Corps, told a news conference in Baghdad late last month that with so much coverage of violence in Iraq “what you don’t see are the successes in the reconstruction program, how reconstruction is making a difference in the lives of everyday Iraqi people.”

And those declared successes are heavily promoted by the United States government. A 2006 news release by the Army Corps, titled “Erbil Maternity and Pediatric Hospital — not just bricks and mortar!” praises both the new water purification system and the incinerator. The incinerator, the release said, would “keep medical waste from entering into the solid waste and water systems.” "



OK, so let's see what's going on with those 2 new systems:


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"At the maternity hospital, a rehabilitation project in the northern city of Erbil, an expensive incinerator for medical waste was padlocked — Iraqis at the hospital could not find the key when inspectors asked to see the equipment — and partly as a result, medical waste including syringes, used bandages and empty drug vials were clogging the sewage system and probably contaminating the water system.

The newly built water purification system was not functioning either. "



So the medical waste was still entering solid waste and probably the water system, 2 things which were not supposed to happen anymore. And the water purification system is not even functioning!


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"But when Mr. Bowen’s office presented the Army Corps with the finding that neither system was working at the struggling hospital and recommended a training program so that Iraqis could properly operate the equipment, General Walsh tersely disagreed with the recommendation in a letter appended to the report, which also noted that the building had suffered damage because workers used excess amounts of water to clean the floors."



Oh I see. So when this Walsh bastard is advised to have a training program set up for the Iraqis to teach them how to use the new equipment, he says no. What a fucking asshole.


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"The bureau within the United States Embassy in Baghdad that oversees reconstruction in Iraq was even more dismissive, disagreeing with all four of the inspector general’s recommendations, including those suggesting that the United States should lend advice on disposing of the waste and maintaining the floors.

“Recommendations such as how much water to use in cleaning floors or disposal of medical waste could be deemed as an intrusion on, or attempt to micromanage operations of an Iraqi entity that we have no controlling interest over,” wrote William Lynch, acting director of the embassy bureau, called the Iraq Reconstruction Management Office. "



Oh so teaching Iraqis to better manage the hospital would be deemed as an INTRUSION, but the FUCKING INVASION and DEVASTATION is not an intrusion, right?

Fucking scum of the earth.

Their true colors come out.

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"In a troubling sign for the American-financed rebuilding program in Iraq, inspectors for a federal oversight agency have found that in a sampling of eight projects that the United States had declared successes, seven were no longer operating as designed because of plumbing and electrical failures, lack of proper maintenance, apparent looting and expensive equipment that lay idle."



Wow, that's gotta be a fucking record.

This is so sad and sick.


[Edited on April 29, 2007 at 11:31 PM. Reason : ]

4/29/2007 11:29:06 PM

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"So you suggest partisanship, which is perfectly fine, and I question your own and I'm the prick.

You're a puny hypocritical little bitch. You're not even worth my time posting, like a shit stain on my toilet paper."


I've never really paid attention to your posts, and now I know why, because you are indeed a TrollTwista clone.


SHOW ME THE SUGGESTION OF PARTISANSHIP YOU STUPID SONOFABITCH. YOU STUPID LEFT IN THE GUTTER TO DIE BASTARD.

4/29/2007 11:31:38 PM

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"And moron always lives up to his username. Congrats!

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And yet you're still far dumber than me.

4/29/2007 11:32:46 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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TreeTwista10 owns your ass on a consistent basis, and now I know why.

4/29/2007 11:33:18 PM

State409c
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You should join him in taking a hiatus from this section. It's clear you don't belong here, having sustained barely a third grade comprehension of life.

4/29/2007 11:34:14 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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^^ Nobody's dumber than you, boo. When that POS joe_schmoe slobs your knob for being great, you know your IQ is somewhere between that of a door post and pond scum.



[Edited on April 29, 2007 at 11:37 PM. Reason : carrots]

4/29/2007 11:34:40 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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3rd grade = grad school to your dumbass.

4/29/2007 11:36:30 PM

moron
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Wait, where has joe_schmoe slobbed my knob? I think I missed that...

4/29/2007 11:37:32 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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He compliments you on not being a moron...search your posting history. Knowing that asshole he would slob your knob, so you have that to look forward to.

4/29/2007 11:39:55 PM

State409c
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So anyway, before we were interrupted by the kid that basically can't debate topics in this section, so he just trolls it instead...

4/29/2007 11:41:48 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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You don't feel safer, and yet you can't name one attack that has taken place since 9/11.

You are a troll or a dumbass. Both fit perfectly so you choose.

4/29/2007 11:43:11 PM

moron
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To my recollection, joe_schmoe has never complimented me, but I wouldn't be surprised, because he wouldn't be the only one.

4/29/2007 11:44:47 PM

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Go quote O'reilly on some neocon board where your comments will be celebrated. There is no room for your stupidity in this thread, or even this section for that matter.

4/29/2007 11:44:49 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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So why do you even post then?

4/29/2007 11:45:19 PM

State409c
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I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion about yet another instance where some aspect of this war and rebuilding effort has been botched, but you keep fucking it up with your tripe inane shit that no one cares about. I'm serious, take your chubby fucking cheeks, and your shitty couch, and get the fuck out of the thread.

4/29/2007 11:47:57 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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Don't even compare quality of women that I've had vs. you lil' guy. That doesn't cover up for your retardation. If you have to rely on the looks of people who disagree with you in order to feel better about yourself then I can see why TreeTwista10 owns you like a little bitch.

[Edited on April 29, 2007 at 11:52 PM. Reason : ha]

4/29/2007 11:50:53 PM

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It isn't masking your stupidity either. Do you have anything valid to add? Feel free to troll me via PM, and stop fucking up this thread.

4/29/2007 11:52:36 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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In order to strengthen your position, you've mentioned Bill O'Reilly and my looks. And I should take you seriously? Ok chief, whatever you say..

4/29/2007 11:54:05 PM

State409c
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Do you have anything valid to add, other than comments about comments?

4/29/2007 11:57:05 PM

moron
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You're not being very Christian, Colby.

4/29/2007 11:57:50 PM

Wlfpk4Life
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Thanks, God.

4/29/2007 11:59:10 PM

moron
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You're welcome.

4/29/2007 11:59:26 PM

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4/30/2007 12:02:35 AM

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4/30/2007 12:09:13 AM

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Quote :
"'m curious...just how many terrorist attacks have taken place in the US since 9/11???"


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Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around here, do you?
Homer: (Looks around) Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.

4/30/2007 12:17:52 AM

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Don't get me started on American healthcare. We should either deregulate the system or nationalize it. As has been predicted by every free-market advocate of the past 200 years, a middle-road as taken by the U.S. produces absolutely the worst system of moral-hazards possible as the state-run elements and the privately-run elements cannibalize each other.

4/30/2007 12:24:06 AM

Wlfpk4Life
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And yet the fag that created this thread felt compelled to create a pissing contest over looks in order to feel better about his lot in life. Small penis syndrome? I think so!

4/30/2007 12:55:17 AM

moron
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Eyedrb is the one that brought up healthcare. State409c was referring to the Walter Reed fiasco.

4/30/2007 1:02:57 AM

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there are no excuses for walter reed, but just so everyone is clear, military hospitals and doctors have been shitty for at least forever years. this is nothing new, a new talking point, but nothing new. maybe exacerbated moreso now than since vietnam.

notoriously bad.

they have governmental immunity from tort law = less interest in performing

[Edited on April 30, 2007 at 1:21 AM. Reason : Walter Reed may be an example of what socialized healthcare would look like]

4/30/2007 1:16:44 AM

State409c
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But the problem with eyedr and Idiot4Life is that they think any criticism of this administration must obviously mean a vote for the Democrats. That's some of the dumbest shit this section sees on a daily basis, and it is why threads get turned into stupid matches.

4/30/2007 7:14:04 AM

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Quote :
"Wlfpk4Life: You don't feel safer, and yet you can't name one attack that has taken place since 9/11.

You are a troll or a dumbass. Both fit perfectly so you choose."


Honestly, I feel safe. I've always felt safe.

But then again, I'm not a US soldier.

[Edited on April 30, 2007 at 7:22 AM. Reason : ]

4/30/2007 7:21:20 AM

State409c
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It's also odd, he thinks because no attacks have taken place, I must feel safe. What kind of brain dead logic is that?

Kinda like, if the drug dealers live next door, but it's been a few years since the last time they robbed me, I should feel safe despite me constantly calling the cops on them and harassing them, right? I mean, they haven't attacked me again yet, so I should be safe, right? Right ole chubby cheeks?

4/30/2007 8:42:07 AM

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