mitsubob8404 Suspended 101 Posts user info edit post |
I have an Asus p4p800 board with a celeron D 3.06 chip (478 socket) and 2 gb ram (DDR 3200). I like the setup but was wondering if I can gain some performance by moving up to a pentium 4 3.2 Ghz (800 Mhz FSB vs the celeron's 533 Mhz)
I've considered switching up to dual core, but I'd have to get all new stuff and would prefer not to have to spend the extra cash. I figured If I were to go this route, I'd buy a cheap single core and upgrade again when I had the money. Any suggestions?
Bob 5/2/2007 11:03:48 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
go dual core
and give all the stuff you have to me 5/2/2007 11:10:14 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
no, there's absolutely no performance gains whatsoever
you should drink a bottle of bleach for thinking otherwise 5/2/2007 11:16:57 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
I only spent 900 bucks on my e6600 system with a 8800 gts 640. If I can afford that, you should be able to build a relatively cheap dual core. Shit they sell pentium D barbone boxes for like 300 bucks from tigerdirect. 5/3/2007 12:53:25 AM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
If you can get a core 2 duo, do so.
Even the 4300 destroys a 3.2Ghz P4D 5/3/2007 6:54:29 AM |
mitsubob8404 Suspended 101 Posts user info edit post |
Alright, thanks! 5/3/2007 8:58:04 AM |
plaisted7 Veteran 499 Posts user info edit post |
What sort of performance boost are you looking for? Just general usage? Gaming? Blah blahs? 5/3/2007 10:00:49 AM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
^ That's the important question. 5/3/2007 10:25:57 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "celeron D 3.06 chip" |
5/3/2007 10:55:06 AM |
mitsubob8404 Suspended 101 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not looking for an incredible improvement, just something significant and worth the time/money it would require to replace the chip. I'm not much of a gamer and don't intend on becoming one, I guess I use the computer mostly for CAD (solidworks, progeCAD/autocad), mp3s, media storage and dvd burning/converting. 5/4/2007 12:32:18 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
def. get dual core 5/4/2007 1:48:44 AM |
plaisted7 Veteran 499 Posts user info edit post |
yea dual core then... even better if your CAD programs specifically support it. 5/4/2007 8:42:57 AM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
If im not mistaken most CAD programs take full advantage of dual cores unlike 99% of games at the present time. So that may be the best way to go. I know at work using CAD we buy good Dell systems (3.0GHz) and put the best CAD card in them we can afford, like the nvidia quatros.
Let me ask you how is your computer slow when running solidworks. When you make a new feature does it take a while to process that info into a shape (cpu bound) or is it more of a lag when rotating the object around (gpu bound). I would think you are good with 2gb of ram but they say more is better.
Just somethings to consider. 5/4/2007 9:06:35 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
CAD PROGRAMS COST $TEXAS CAUSE THEY'RE WRITTEN WELL AND USE SYSTEM RESOURCES THE BEST THEY CAN. 5/4/2007 9:14:11 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
The largest performance boost would be from the increase in size of the L2 cache. Celerons are cheap because they have skimpy cache. This makes them great for simple business and basic home use, but for intensive apps it really sucks.
WHile you'd see a performance boost going to a p4, they're old tech. And you may be able to find a faster pentium D for the same price.
For example: P4 3.2 for $75 vs PD 2.8 for $85
The Pentium D is $10 more, but is dual core has twice the cache and is a better architecture. Assuming it would work on your board i'd go with the pentium D.
The other thing you could do is save your money and buy a totally new Core2 duo setup.
[Edited on May 4, 2007 at 10:33 AM. Reason : .] 5/4/2007 10:33:10 AM |
urge311 All American 3026 Posts user info edit post |
maybe you guys can help me out im no computer whiz and i just got a laptop for the mba program
its a dell e1505 with a core 2 duo t5600 (1.83ghz, 2mb cache, 667mhz fsb) im wanting to pick up a game or two and one has a 2.0ghz as minimum requirements. from what little ive heard is that the dual cores can make up that ground so the game will run on my computer. i really want to know for sure before i go shelling out the money for a game that doesnt work too well or at all. 5/4/2007 4:18:58 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
what video card does your e1505 have? I'd expect either integrated or some ati x1600ish card, or even a 7600 with turbocache if you upgraded it. Pretty much for most current games, the core duo will work just fine, as long as you have the video procession power to support the game. 5/4/2007 4:32:02 PM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
^^ how much RAM you have as well? 5/4/2007 4:33:03 PM |
urge311 All American 3026 Posts user info edit post |
video is 128mb radeon x1300
memory is 2gb ddr2 sdram at 533mhz and if anyone has experience with it, im wanting command and conquer 3 5/4/2007 4:40:01 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Why don't you just grab the demo and try it out, might have to lower some settings but it should work
http://files.filefront.com/Command++Conquer+3+Tiberium+Wars+Demo/;6821954;/fileinfo.html 5/4/2007 4:50:48 PM |
urge311 All American 3026 Posts user info edit post |
well hot damn
didnt even think of that 5/4/2007 4:54:45 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, might run sluggish, but it should work. I know that supreme commander runs pretty slow on my e1705 core duo 1.83ghz with the 7900gs in it, but that's probably due to it only have 1GB of ram. Might bump it up, but I honestly don't play games on my laptop anymore because I have the 8800gts system at home. 5/4/2007 4:56:35 PM |
urge311 All American 3026 Posts user info edit post |
i put it to normal mode for the graphics and it ran ok. got a bit sluggish still with lots of stuff on screen. 5/4/2007 7:01:02 PM |