FLASH: FOXNEWS O'REILLY TOPS MSNBC GOP DEBATE FOR NIGHT... O'REILLY PULLS 2,314,000 VIEWERS... DEBATE SCORES 1,762,000... [DEM DEBATE WEEK BEFORE HIT 2,261,000]... FOXNEWS HANNITY/COLMES AT 1,548,000... MORE

ACTUAL DEBATE COVERAGE: 8-9:30PM:

FNC 2,023,000
MSNBC 1,762,000
CNN 599,000




Now that's fucking hilarious. In the debate thread, someone said that MSNBC would have their highest ratings ever.... hardly.

5/4/2007 8:17:27 PM

of all the republicans who are going to vote in the GOP primaries, half of them tuned into FNC to watch the GOP Debates

oh, lordy. its the death of liberalism. progressive politics have been death a fatal blow.



oh... wait...

HALF of the Republicans who are going to vote in the GOP primaries have rejected FNC's crass attempt at lopsided coverage, shunning O'Reilly in record numbers in favor of the traditional even-handed coverage by MSNBC and CNN!

Oh Lordy! its the death of the neo-con partisan yellow dog journalists! Hooray!




WHAT?

oh, yeah



IBTL

5/4/2007 8:50:12 PM

haha pwnt by joe_schmoe

5/4/2007 9:52:32 PM

Didn't FNC used to do much better against CNN and MSNBC during Bush speeches?


OMG REPUBLICAN BASE COLLAPSING!!1 THESE RATINGS PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY

5/5/2007 1:24:27 AM

hey dumbass, the debate WASN'T AIRED ON FNC.

5/5/2007 9:56:01 AM

Oh and by the way, these ratings are just from a few weeks ago.

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,498,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 2,189,000
FNC GRETA 1,473,000
FNC BRIT HUME 1,319,000
FNC SHEP 1,315,000
CNN DOBBS 1,106,000
CNN BLITZER 825,000
CNN COOPER 658,000
CNN ZAHN 611,000,
MSNBC OLBERMANN 605,000
KING 544,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 502,000
CNNHN GRACE 496,000



OH YEAH, ALL THE REPUBLICANS ARE LEAVING FNC BECAUSE OF THEIR CRASS ATTEMPT AT LOPSIDED COVERAGE!

YEAH OLBERMANN SURE DOES SHOW EVERYONE WHO'S BOSS.

you probably get your news from mediamatters...

[Edited on May 5, 2007 at 10:02 AM. Reason : .]

5/5/2007 9:59:26 AM

CAPITAL LETTERS MEAN I'M SERIOUS

5/5/2007 10:15:19 AM

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"Oeuvre: hey dumbass, the debate WASN'T AIRED ON FNC."

damn I didn't realize that, now that's funny...

5/5/2007 10:41:57 AM

hahah meaning more people wanted fox news to tell them about what happened while it went on then wanted to watch it for themselves


scary, yet hilarious.


EY Y'ALL, MY UTHER CAR IS PARKED DOWN IN SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY

5/5/2007 11:13:04 AM

Who gives a s***?

5/5/2007 11:13:59 AM

^^ I tuned into FNC after the debate for post debate coverage, and there was none. Just Greta doing her usual law suit stories.


So you're wrong again.

5/5/2007 11:31:13 AM

oh word


well, go fuck yourself

5/5/2007 11:32:13 AM

I'm just saying, for all you people who love to trash fox news, the market speaks. And the market doesn't lie.

5/5/2007 11:34:03 AM

well please don't confuse me with these clowns

i fully support foxnews

5/5/2007 11:37:04 AM

This was a meaningless debate at a meaningless time. No one cared.

5/5/2007 12:42:01 PM

The market decides what is good journalism and what is not.

5/5/2007 1:34:42 PM

^ and I think I'm hinting some sarcasm there...


So you're telling me the market does not choose good journalism? Does it choose good vehicles? There's a reason The Big 3's sales have dropped. Because the market chooses good vehicles.

In a free society with a free press, the market chooses.

5/5/2007 2:22:55 PM

I honestly dont think that those shows have the highest ratings because the psycho contingency of the right has the largest support. People who watch Bill Orly and take him seriously are pretty much brainwashed and dont have a clue what is going on; they just watch Orly with a zealous passion, that is their life.

5/5/2007 2:27:11 PM

Ok, and that contributes to the ratings and the market is behaving as people desire certain shows.


I mean, I can make the claim that Japanese car owners are only brainwashed into buying those vehicles... or you can rationally say that Japanese cars are more reliable and have better engineering than American cars.

Sure some people may like American cars better, but that is their rational choice.



So you're saying that years and years and years of economic thought suddenly disappears when it comes to.... the o'reilly factor...


People enjoy watching O'Reilly more than Olbermann and just because O'Reilly does not share your point of view does not mean his listeners are brainwashed... that is perhaps the weakest argument I have ever heard.

5/5/2007 2:53:34 PM

The market chooses the best musicians, too.

5/5/2007 3:11:55 PM

how can you argue for orielly, the guy is a huge douchebag, I respect his right to disagree with what I view and all, but I just dont understand how this guy gets support from people, his views are so condescending, and he acts like such an ass.

5/5/2007 3:49:22 PM

I'm not defending him. I hate O'Reilly myself and I'm a staunch conservative. But I understand where he fits in. I understand why he has appeal: namely, he's 180 degrees different from olbermann, larry king, williams, brokaw, rather, couric, and the rest of them. If you want to understand why his ratings are higher, then look no further than the fact that the media is divided between the right (FNC) and the left (ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC). The ratings for the left are split between 5 major networks whereas conservatives get their voice in one.


And the shows on FNC are much more watchable than the drivel produced out of the others. I hate O'Reilly, but I admit I watch him. His show can be very good.

[Edited on May 5, 2007 at 4:34 PM. Reason : .]

5/5/2007 4:33:19 PM

Of the people sitting on their asses all night in front of cable TV, I wonder what the conservative:liberal ration is?

5/5/2007 5:18:14 PM

Quote :

"In a free society with a free press, the market chooses."

While I haven't looked very closely into how this research was conducted, this study http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reporters_without_borders claims that the United States ranks 53 amongst other countries in regard to freedom of the press.

Apparently, the study has been disputed, but I'm somewhat interested in knowing what caused the US to drop so drastically after 2004.

Anyone have info about this study? how it was conducted or how valid it may be?

5/5/2007 5:39:40 PM

I'm skeptical. No one is locked up for writing a story around here. Look at all of the blogs and the freedom they have.

5/5/2007 5:55:11 PM

Quote :

"Of the people sitting on their asses all night in front of cable TV, I wonder what the conservative:liberal ration is?"

liberals don't watch cable news because there's no cable in their parents basement.

5/5/2007 6:00:28 PM

I see joe_communist has not attempted to re-enter this thread.

5/5/2007 6:52:50 PM

^^ No, we're too busy watching The View and attending open mic poetry nights

5/5/2007 8:16:35 PM

Quote :

"the market speaks. And the market doesn't lie."

According to Nielsen, that same night ABC got about 12 million viewers. Sounds like FNC and MSNBC got their asses kicked

5/5/2007 8:23:57 PM

Budweiser is the world's greatest beer

5/5/2007 8:36:20 PM

Ants are the Earth's greatest species.

5/5/2007 8:39:14 PM

^
...and ants in a Budweiser plant are invincible.

5/5/2007 10:43:01 PM

Quote :

"I see joe_communist has not attempted to re-enter this thread."

GOP Debates <...> talking head commentary on teh GOP Debates.

what the fuck ever.

my point still stands:

namely, that you're just another partisan neo-con hack if you think it means anything that republicans are tuning into Fox News.

the only thing it means is that half of them are tuning elsewhere.

sorry if i dont feel this is significant at all to research numbers any further.

[Edited on May 5, 2007 at 11:29 PM. Reason : ]

5/5/2007 11:29:05 PM

Well, I think Oeuvre has revealed at least a couple of things with this post:

1. Several of you are so ill-informed that you didn't even know what channel the GOP debates were being broadcast on.

2. The same abovementioned people are so close-minded that they didn't bother to watch the Republican candidates debate one another.

I don't agree with many positions held by the Democrat candidates for president, but I watched their recent debate in its entirety. It's simply a matter of being informed and many of you are not. Most of you don't even know what a fucking "neo-con" (sic) is--otherwise you would know that is doesn't apply to a number of us here. In addition, one of the main things that's hackneyed around here is the incessant use by some of the words "neocon" and "hack."

5/6/2007 2:51:46 AM

Quote :

"According to Nielsen, that same night ABC got about 12 million viewers. Sounds like FNC and MSNBC got their asses kicked"

Cable stations have a much smaller audience because not everyone has cable.

Everyone knows that.

Quote :

"sorry if i dont feel this is significant at all to research numbers any further."

But you sure as hell do feel the need to put in your two lame cents.

[Edited on May 6, 2007 at 8:36 AM. Reason : .]

5/6/2007 8:35:02 AM

The best musicians in the world this week:

1. Maroon 5
2. Avril Lavigne
3. Justin Timberlake
4. T-Pain
5. Ne-Yo

5/6/2007 10:52:49 AM

Star wars episode I was the best movie of 1999

5/6/2007 11:51:31 AM

^ with the anticipation of SW ep. I, yes, I can see how market forces made it the #1 movie of that year. That in no way destroys market theory and what it does.

^^ same with that.

"good movie" and "good music" are a matter of taste. Just because the examples are not yours does not mean that everyone else is wrong.

[Edited on May 6, 2007 at 12:53 PM. Reason : .]

5/6/2007 12:52:41 PM

no, you're equating what people choose most with what is the best of that profession

the top news program != best journalism

the top news program = best entertainment

5/6/2007 1:00:05 PM

Quote :

"don't agree with many positions held by the Democrat candidates for president, but I watched their recent debate in its entirety. It's simply a matter of being informed and many of you are not. Most of you don't even know what a fucking "neo-con" (sic) is--otherwise you would know that is doesn't apply to a number of us here. In addition, one of the main things that's hackneyed around here is the incessant use by some of the words "neocon" and "hack.""

I didn't watch because it was way too fucking early. It doesn't matter who I support; because the outcome of the primaries will be decided before I get a chance to vote, and it was on cable. I don't have cable.

5/6/2007 1:24:42 PM

^^ Yes, my judgment for "best of a profession" is what most people choose. This is arbitrary just as your judgment for best band or movie is arbitrary.

Therefore you cannot use your own personal view of what is best as a method to debunk the market.

5/6/2007 3:21:10 PM

i hope you're not really this stupid.

you see let me put it this way, the best of a certain profession and the one people choose to see can be very different.

for example, they have awards for best movies at the end of the year, its called the oscars
from what i understand star wars would not have gotten an award if it was the only movie produced that year.
they would have just canceled the show.
but it was the top grossing movie of the year which painfully demonstrates that the massed are after a particular thing which may or may not be the ideal practice of that profession.

5/6/2007 3:49:53 PM

^^

do you go to McDonalds when you want to go somewhere nice to eat?

5/6/2007 4:00:09 PM

Quote :

"The same abovementioned people are so close-minded that they didn't bother to watch the Republican candidates debate "

Oh please.

i didn't bother watching the GOP candidate debate each other, because i dont give a damn about watching them hash out the finer points of their same-old-bullshit on live TV.

(1) i already know the basic issues on which the major GOP candidates are staking their claims.

(2) i'd rather stab my eyes out than watch them talk about it.

(3) it doesnt matter what the fuck i think about any of them, because I CAN'T VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM in their primaries, and so I have no say-so on how they sort out which one is going to represent the GOP.

when the race narrows down, then I'll have more time and interest in paying attention to what the GOP candidate is saying. Until then, I've got 20-some mainstream and independent news organizations watching and recording for me, in the unlikely event that one of them says something really stupid, like, "we'll have another 9/11 if y'all elect a democrat"

In any event, i'm not goign to pretend to be unbiased. if you think theres any way in hell I'll ever vote for a republican for national office, you're on drugs. I've seen what the Republicans have accomplished in the past 6 years. and when i contrast it with what the Democrats accomplished in the 8 years prior to that, it's a foregone conclusion. Im very biased in favor of prosperity, civil rights, and general peace.

FTR, I do support some Republicans at the local and state level. For instance, our County Prosecutor (King County), and our Secretary of State (Washington) are good guys, honest, capable, happen to be republicans, and i would vote for them over any Democratic challenger. I also really like our recently departed republican US Attorney for Western Washington, John McKay




[Edited on May 6, 2007 at 8:03 PM. Reason : ]

5/6/2007 8:02:03 PM

George W Bush was the most qualified man for President in the entire US.

John Kerry and Al Gore were 2nd and 3rd, respectively.

[Edited on May 6, 2007 at 8:21 PM. Reason : .]

5/6/2007 8:12:44 PM

spiderman 3 was the best movie of all time

5/6/2007 9:24:13 PM

there is no hope for america. turn our 10,000 nukes on ourselves and pull the trigger.

5/6/2007 11:47:05 PM

This is not really that bad considering people picking numbers randomly from briefcases held by hot chicks blew both networks out of the water.

5/6/2007 11:49:19 PM

^haha

5/7/2007 12:09:26 AM

Quote :

"I didn't watch because it was way too fucking early. It doesn't matter who I support; because the outcome of the primaries will be decided before I get a chance to vote, and it was on cable. I don't have cable."

nutsmackr

And you work at the GA? What a fucking embarrassment!

You obviously have some sort of Internet connection, right? Well, instead of whining her about not having cable, you could have watched both debates in their entirety and at your leisure on TEH GODDAMNED FUCKING INTARWEB, DUMBASS!

5/7/2007 12:19:22 AM