Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27589
The most ethical Congress in US history apparently hasn't struck a cord with the American people. Go figure! 5/15/2007 5:16:02 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
higher approval than last year. 5/15/2007 5:17:27 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
If you're happy with 29 percent then so am I! 5/15/2007 5:18:11 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
i'm just saying people are happier with this congress than the republican-led congress of last year. 5/15/2007 5:18:36 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
People...all 29 percent of them. Congrats on the high numbers! 5/15/2007 5:20:20 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
apples to oranges 5/15/2007 5:21:05 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Although ratings are quite low, Americans have been more positive in their assessments of Congress this year than last year, when an average of just 25% approved of Congress." |
OMG, the Republican Congress' approval was even lower!!!
Go figure!5/15/2007 5:22:47 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Americans have been more positive in their assessments of Congress this year than last year, when an average of just 25% approved of Congress." |
5/15/2007 5:22:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
OMG LOCK THIS I REFUSE TO BELIEVE BUSH IS MORE TOLERABLE THAN THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE LOCK SUSPEND LOCK SUSPEND 5/15/2007 5:26:30 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
^^Give em some time. They'll wear out their welcome just like the Repubs did. 5/15/2007 5:30:18 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
With numbers like these, I think it's time to smash the state. 5/15/2007 5:30:23 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
i think this is more a result of people not knowing what in the hell the congress does.
whenever i mention that i watch cspan occassionally people look at me like i have the plague. 5/15/2007 5:35:44 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
TreeTwista10, he's not more tolerable.
His ratings have been so steady in those low-30's, regardless of what happens, because of four types of people. People who:
1. think he has a really hard job and don't want to judge him 2. always support the president no matter what 3. always support the president in a time of war no matter what 4. always support their party
If you take a look at the Democratic Congress, the expectations for them are much higher. People were expecting these great, awesome changes to be made--and what do you know...it's pretty difficult to do anything when you're facing a quagmire and a foolish, difficult president who--get this--won't even acknowledge the heap of shit we're in. Anyway, lots of Republicans aren't going to approve no matter what. And the Democrats were hoping for a lot more from this congress. And so we have these low approval ratings.
That does not make Bush more tolerable than the Democratic Congress.
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 5:40 PM. Reason : sss] 5/15/2007 5:38:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
tell that to the gallup poll that disagrees with you, bridget 5/15/2007 5:41:05 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
Um, maybe the expectations were high because the Democrats put them there to begin with?
Yeah, Bush and the Republicans are to blame for a do nothing congress. You people and your spin, good luck riding that 29 percent to victory in '08! 5/15/2007 5:41:22 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "People were expecting these great, awesome changes to be made" |
Show me these people and I'll show you some poor, gullible fools5/15/2007 5:42:11 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
^^^I was giving my interpretation of the numbers in the Gallup poll.
You are so fucking obnoxious and retarded.
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 5:42 PM. Reason : sss] 5/15/2007 5:42:19 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
You are very good at rationalization.
Maybe you should be a lawyer. Or a political strategist. 5/15/2007 5:43:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
call me obnoxious and retarded if you want
doesnt change the fact that the gallup poll shows bush's approval rating is 33%, and congress' is 29%
misdirected hostility from bridget 5/15/2007 5:43:38 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
Retarded is trying to rationalize why 29% > 33% 5/15/2007 5:43:42 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
and 29>25 5/15/2007 5:44:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
we get it...your only point is that congress last year was even lower...you already said that like 3 times 5/15/2007 5:46:04 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck this argument. Let's get right down to it.
Do any of you actually believe that the American public genuinely approves of Bush more than the current congress (Democratic)?
Do any of you actually believe that the American public genuinely approved of Bush more than the congress of last year (Republican)?
Cause I'm saying NO to both, regardless of what the Gallup poll seems to indicate (to fools like TreeTwista10)... 5/15/2007 5:47:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
so we should trust you and not the gallup and the 1,000+ people they polled
course you live in the fantasy world where your opinions are completely representative of the american public] 5/15/2007 5:50:14 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
when was the last time a congress had a higher approval than the president? 5/15/2007 5:55:01 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Bush has 4% on the Congress. This clearly means he wins.
Mission accomplished, anyone? 5/15/2007 5:56:38 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
and looking at the graphs, it looks like it's the republicans who make up most of the downward trend for the congressional approval 5/15/2007 5:57:19 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Approal rating for congress by Democrats is at 37%. That percentage has dropped a lot over the last month.
^^^a month or 2 ago
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 6:08 PM. Reason : 2] 5/15/2007 5:57:31 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^I'm saying that you can't ignore this...
Quote : | "BridgetSPK: His ratings have been so steady in those low-30's, regardless of what happens, because of four types of people. People who:
1. think he has a really hard job and don't want to judge him 2. always support the president no matter what 3. always support the president in a time of war no matter what 4. always support their party" |
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 5:58 PM. Reason : sss]5/15/2007 5:58:25 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
How about people who:
5. Think he is doing a good job.
?
PS Independents approve of Bush at a higher percentage than they approve of congress. It looks like 27% approve of Bush versus 24% approval for congress by independents.
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 6:11 PM. Reason : 2] 5/15/2007 6:01:31 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "PS Independents approve of Bush at a higher percentage than they approve of congress. It looks like 27% approve of Bush versus 24% approval for congress. " |
i wonder how many of these are libertarians who would vote republican 90% of the time anyway.
i'm an independent and don't fit into that camp, but still i wonder.5/15/2007 6:12:02 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Good question.
It just goes to show how badly the Republicans fucked themselves by running away from the libertarian ideals which brought them to power in '94. 5/15/2007 6:19:52 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
^They didn't really fuck themselves. Those people are still voting Republican.
And since when did Republicans run away from Libertarian ideals? They've never really had Libertarian ideals--they just threw that out there to expand their tent. 5/15/2007 6:33:50 PM |
ben94gt All American 5084 Posts user info edit post |
Im pretty sure congress always has a lower approval rating than the president no matter who the president is, and no matter what party controls congress. People just seem to hate on the legislative branch. 5/15/2007 6:48:48 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
if this is the case, then the fact that gallup even ran this story shows its bias. 5/15/2007 6:50:13 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Not me. I don't vote republican anymore.
Throughout the '80's and '90's, the Republican mantra was smaller government, fiscal responsibility, deregulation, etc. Go back to the "Contract with America" if you have to. It used to be that you could count on the republicans to try to butcher every social program they got their hands on.
It was only recently that Christian conservatives and neocons really took control of the party.
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 6:52 PM. Reason : 2] 5/15/2007 6:52:18 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
except that unless i'm mistaken, hardly any of the contract with america resulted in anything 5/15/2007 6:55:29 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Hell, they tried.
Back then they weren't peddling shit like "No Child Left Behind" and the Patriot Act 5/15/2007 7:07:26 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Republican mantra was smaller government" |
yeah republicans believe in smaller government except when it comes to feeding money into the department of defense, turning america into a facist state, and giving out contracts to there buddies in halliburton.5/15/2007 7:08:06 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "turning america into a facist state" |
Damn, didn't this insult go out of style back in the 70's?
Come up with some new material.5/15/2007 7:15:01 PM |
ben94gt All American 5084 Posts user info edit post |
^it did but it came back into fashion again in the past 6 years
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 7:38 PM. Reason : up] 5/15/2007 7:38:16 PM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
Though it seems less appropriate these days given that the current administration is on the verge of collapse, and the Supreme Court and the Democratic Congress are dismantling much of the machinery piece by piece. 5/16/2007 12:44:05 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Since when did Republicans care about approval ratings so much? 5/16/2007 2:12:17 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
You are surprised that Congress has poor approval ratings compared to a president? Welcome to political science. 5/16/2007 6:11:38 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Sure, all of congress has a shitty approval rating, democrats and republicans. But i've also seen polls showing that the american public supports what the democrats are trying to do by a huge margin (timetable for iraq, minimum wage, healthcare reform). So does this opinion poll reflect more on what the congress hasn't been able to get done (due to veto's and republicans stalling bills) or what they've been trying to do (afore mentioned policies)? I'd say it reflects frustration at what has actually been passed, which is very little due to veto's and other political roadblocks. 5/16/2007 7:24:01 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They didn't really fuck themselves. Those people are still voting Republican." |
oh, really?
I didn't vote in the midterm, because the GOP has driven me away. I held my nose and voted Libertarian in the election before that.
Apparently I'm not the only one, given the beating the GOP took in November.
Quote : | "yeah republicans believe in smaller government except when it comes to feeding money into the department of defense, turning america into a facist state, and giving out contracts to there buddies in halliburton." |
You aren't old enough to remember what a Republican is. This whole so-called "fascist" state and the Halliburton thing are products of the "fallen" GOP that we're complaining about.
[Edited on May 16, 2007 at 8:31 AM. Reason : asfasdf]5/16/2007 8:28:47 AM |