Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
chris wallace is a genius. a day ago paul wanted out, he couldnt get kg, somehow got screwed out of oden/durant and what did he do? he didn't cry no he went out and made moves. now he's about to have the best team in the east.
kg said they had to get another good player for him to come thats the only reason they did this. now they will trade jefferson and something else for kg.
telfair allen pierce kg whoever
eastern conference champions? 6/28/2007 8:03:23 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
ATTN: USERS WITH LESS THAN 1000 POSTS....
i know the rules 6/28/2007 8:05:48 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Uh, except they gave up their pick and Wally Szerbiak. Exactly what are they going to offer the Timerberwolves for KG? Not gonna happen.
[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 8:11 PM. Reason : S] 6/28/2007 8:11:26 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
they arent getting KG dumbass 6/28/2007 8:13:35 PM |
cheezitman All American 1245 Posts user info edit post |
6/28/2007 8:17:36 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "telfair allen pierce kg" |
haha the fact you put telfair in this and talked about chris wallace means you are either a troll, a complete idiot or both6/28/2007 8:25:38 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
they will trrade jefferson and next years pick or a 2nd round for kg. twolves will accept because they may not get anything. 6/28/2007 8:31:32 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^right b/c that will work with the cap
just like a 3/4th string pt guard starting and a guy who doesnt work there anymore being a genius for making this trade 6/28/2007 8:34:51 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
^^ so, do you know how the salary cap works? 6/28/2007 8:44:04 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
west wally and green for allen freed up more room for a team that was already under the cap. it will work if the twolves don't get a better offer. 6/28/2007 9:00:51 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^wait doesnt Allen make as much as the 3 of those put together??
Quote : | "the fact you put telfair in this and talked about chris wallace means you are either a troll, a complete idiot or both" |
[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 9:07 PM. Reason : q]6/28/2007 9:07:02 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
shits weak 6/28/2007 9:53:45 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
FACT 6/28/2007 9:57:35 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
*fart* in this shit thread 6/28/2007 10:09:02 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
i fucking hate the Celtics
i wish we could have gotten Ray Allen 6/28/2007 10:10:01 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
well, I'd have to say fuck the NBA, I can't wait for football season 6/28/2007 10:13:50 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
not your shit again 6/28/2007 10:15:33 PM |
Sidney Lowe New Recruit 17 Posts user info edit post |
This is retarded. 6/28/2007 10:16:37 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i wish we could have gotten Ray Allen" |
who is "we"?
nc state?
i dont think he is eligible anymore6/28/2007 10:24:13 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
Thank You. 6/28/2007 10:34:22 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
ahahhahahaha
i was clearly not talking about nc state 6/28/2007 10:37:58 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
really you dont say 6/28/2007 10:49:21 PM |
whtmike2k All American 2504 Posts user info edit post |
i think MAYBE he meant charlotte? 6/28/2007 10:50:46 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
hey lets all be fags in a thread about a bunch of fags 6/28/2007 10:53:18 PM |
whtmike2k All American 2504 Posts user info edit post |
THEY TOOK R JEEEERRRRBBBS
...BACK IN THE PIIIILE!
[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 10:55 PM. Reason : this is gayer than all the men getting gay with each other in a pile] 6/28/2007 10:54:47 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
i wish Bill Simmons was in here rubbin his boston wang all over yall
especially mike 6/28/2007 10:57:45 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
WHY> 6/28/2007 11:14:32 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
probably the worst trade of the draft
danny ainge is a fucking moron again
enjoy seeing ray allen in action for 40 games a year and 40 injured 6/29/2007 12:14:42 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, but if they win those 40 games, they'll make the playoffs! 6/29/2007 1:48:30 AM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
lol @ the celtics 6/29/2007 3:15:00 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
potentially they will be beasts...i just sense some "who gets the ball at the end of the game" issues
at least they're doin somethin...another good player for the eastern conference
btw THEY'RE NOT GETTING GARNETT...Earl] 6/29/2007 9:37:33 AM |
Poetrickster Suspended 686 Posts user info edit post |
the celtics last season were worse than the rest and missed on the lotto to draft the best peirce is fierce but can't do it alone wally and west? what had they shown? last season caused boston to drink by the gallon things will be different now, with ray allen
[Edited on June 29, 2007 at 12:45 PM. Reason : aabbcc instead of abab] 6/29/2007 12:43:41 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
another horrible thread by Howard 6/29/2007 12:47:00 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "last season caused boston to drink by the gallon things will be different now, with ray allen" |
if i were allowed to make my rebuttal first i wouldve referred to allen as jesus shuttlesworth6/29/2007 12:56:26 PM |
bigstatemain All American 736 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "chris wallace is a genius." |
I guess but HE IS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES
dumbass6/29/2007 1:57:48 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
oh we back
Quote : | "Sources: Celtics, Wolves discussing Garnett trade again
KG Trade Talk Resume with Celtics
The Minnesota Timberwolves and Boston Celtics, who nearly completed a blockbuster Kevin Garnett trade before the June draft, resurrected those talks over the weekend and were locked in serious discussions throughout Monday, according to NBA front-office sources.
Multiple sources told ESPN.com on Sunday night that former teammates Kevin McHale and Danny Ainge revived discussions of a deal that would end Garnett's 12-season association with Minnesota by sending him to Ainge's Celtics, with the Wolves believed to be getting back two of the assets McHale coveted most last month -- Al Jefferson and Theo Ratliff's expiring contract.
It's believed that the latest incarnation of the deal also would have Minnesota acquiring youngsters Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair and Ryan Gomes. The salary-cap math involved would require both teams to account for Garnett's $6.75 million trade kicker.
The Wolves would also receive a future first-round pick from Boston and take back the future first-round pick it sent to the Celtics in the Wally Szczerbiak-Ricky Davis trade in January 2006. (Minnesota still owes the Los Angeles Clippers one first-rounder as part of the Sam Cassell-Marko Jaric deal in the summer of 2005.)
The deal depends on Garnett backing off his well-chronicled unwillingness to play in Boston. Yet sources indicated late Sunday that Garnett was warming to the idea, raising hopes on both sides that the deal will finally go through.
Garnett effectively blocked the Celtics' first attempt at trading for him by making it clear, through agent Andy Miller, that he would opt out of the final year of his contract (worth $23 million) and leave the Celtics in the summer of 2008. Had it gone through with that trade anyway, Boston would have potentially been parting with the blossoming Jefferson for a one-year Garnett rental.
But Garnett could now be amenable to the move, after the fiercely loyal 31-year-old learned how far along the Wolves were in negotiations with Boston in June and with the Celtics responding to the breakdown of its initial pursuit by trading the fifth overall pick in the draft to Seattle for All-Star shooting guard Ray Allen.
Expensive as it would be to employ a trio of All-Stars -- especially since Garnett is expected to demand a lucrative, luxury tax-triggering extension from his new team -- Celtics management is understandably optimistic about selling Garnett on the prospect of teaming with Allen and franchise mainstay Paul Pierce in an Eastern Conference for the taking. The Celtics would be expected to contend for an NBA Finals berth right away if the trade goes through, no matter what they put around that trio, after Cleveland advanced to the Finals in June with not even a clear-cut second star next to LeBron James.
Lone Wolf?
It's been said that Kevin Garnett has been loyal to a fault by continuing his career with Minnesota. While you contemplate this, here's a look at active players who have spent the most consecutive seasons with one NBA team: Most Loyal of Ballers Player Team Seasons Kevin Garnett Timberwolves 12* Kobe Bryant Lakers 11 Tim Duncan Spurs 10 Adonal Foyle Warriors 10 * 927 career games with Wolves
Yet it remains to be seen, assuming that the Celtics secure Garnett's sign-off, what kind of package Boston can provide Minnesota now that the Celtics' No. 5 pick has been used by the SuperSonics to draft Georgetown's Jeff Green. The Wolves badly wanted that pick as part of their rebuilding plans.
Miller could not be reached Sunday night to provide Garnett's up-to-date stance on Boston. When the first round of Wolves-Celtics talks were made public, Miller told ESPN.com: "If a trade [from Minnesota] were to happen, that's not a destination that we're interested in pursuing."
Garnett has said for years that he doesn't want to leave his beloved "Sota," as he calls it, and has consistently refused to push for a trade, even with the Wolves missing the playoffs in each of the past three seasons. But Boston's cause might be helped by the possibility that becoming a Celtic or returning to Minnesota after he was so vigorously shopped are Garnett's only options.
ESPN.com reported in June that Garnett would be hoping for a trade to the Phoenix Suns if he did have to leave the only team he has ever played for. His reasons, according to sources: Garnett would prefer to play in a warm-weather city on a team with championship potential if he's forced to relocate. Another big factor: Garnett and Steve Nash have become good friends over the past few years, starting in 2005 when Garnett was one of the first players in the league to call Nash and congratulate him on his first MVP trophy.
Phoenix, Golden State and the Los Angeles Lakers all joined Boston in making hard trade pushes for Garnett before the June 28 draft. Dallas also expressed serious interest despite its inability to realistically join the chase until after July 1, when the Mavericks could again manufacture at least one cap-friendly contract to offer the Wolves.
The Suns, though, have apparently dropped out of the bidding, unable to make a deal work financially and unwilling to part with Amare Stoudemire. Golden State's chances, meanwhile, took a hit when a potential three-team Garnett trade involving Charlotte collapsed on draft night, with the Warriors deciding they couldn't wait on a maybe and proceeding instead with the trade of Jason Richardson to the Bobcats.
Sources nonetheless insist that McHale has had the Celtics at the top of his list from the start, mainly because of his fondness for Jefferson and Minnesota's natural desire to move Garnett out of its conference. But some teams also believe that McHale's comfort level negotiating with Ainge was another key factor. The former Celtics colleagues remain close and frequently watched games together during the recent NBA Summer League in Las Vegas.
The Wolves made the determination near the end of the playoffs that they would seriously entertain the prospect of trading Garnett for the first time, according to team sources, with Garnett being informed of that change in philosophy directly by owner Glen Taylor.
Taylor announced in mid-July that the organization was no longer looking to move the NBA's 2004 MVP, telling the St. Paul Pioneer-Press that Garnett's "preference was that we not trade him." Yet just days earlier, one rival executive insisted to ESPN.com that he knew "for a fact" that Minnesota remained intent on trading Garnett before the 2007-08 season starts.
Garnett rejected the initial move to Boston even though it would have put him in the easier-to-conquer East and even though he is friendly with Pierce. But he was undeniably stung by the near-trade, sources said, which only increased his growing frustration with McHale and Taylor and left him bracing for a trade ever since.
"This would be a major trade that would affect a franchise and those in the organization, so you better be sure [he wants to be there long term]," Miller said last month after squashing the original trade." |
7/30/2007 4:54:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Garnett + Pierce + Allen
they'd be my pick to rep the East in the Finals assuming the Celtics dont go broke in the process of negotiating all those contracts 7/30/2007 4:56:16 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
haha yea, i would love to see that squad play 7/30/2007 4:56:57 PM |
sd2nc All American 9963 Posts user info edit post |
http://tinyurl.com/2qtxwd looks like it's gonna get done....Check out the writer's name
Quote : | "Source: Celtics, Timberwolves agree to send Garnett to Boston By HOWARD ULMAN, AP Sports Writer July 30, 2007
BOSTON (AP) -- Kevin Garnett is leaving Minnesota after the Boston Celtics agreed to acquire the All-Star forward in a multiplayer trade with the Timberwolves, a Celtics official told The Associated Press on Monday.
Among the players who could be headed to Minnesota are forward Al Jefferson, guard Sebastian Telfair, swingman Gerald Green and center Theo Ratliff, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the deal had not been completed. The official also said the Timberwolves would get at least one draft choice.
The teams still had some things to clarify with the players' contracts, but the official said that would not keep the Celtics from acquiring Garnett, although there could be a change in the players ticketed for the Timberwolves.
There was a chance that a conference call announcing the trade would be held Monday, the official said.
Garnett, 31, has spent all of his 12 NBA seasons with Minnesota. He would get an extension of his contract, which has one year plus an option year remaining, the official said.
The Celtics had tried to get Garnett late last month, but his agent said he didn't want to go to Boston.
Since then, Boston acquired seven-time All-Star guard Ray Allen from Seattle in a draft day deal. Already with Paul Pierce, the Celtics would become instant contenders in the mediocre Atlantic Division with Garnett, even without promising forward Jefferson.
The Celtics obtained Allen and the 35th pick of the draft for guards Delonte West and Wally Szczerbiak, and forward Jeff Green of Georgetown, whom they drafted with the fifth pick.
The Celtics have won just three playoff series during Pierce's nine years with them. They still have an NBA-record 16 championships, but none since 1986.
"They have no excuses, this team out there," Danny Ainge, the executive director of basketball operations, said after Allen was acquired.
Pierce, 29, led the Celtics in scoring last season but played only 47 games because of injury.
Allen, who turns 32 next month, averaged a career-high 26.4 points last season, his 11th, but underwent surgery to remove bone spurs on both ankles that required him to wear protective boots. He is expected to be ready for training camp." |
[Edited on July 30, 2007 at 5:02 PM. Reason : howard]7/30/2007 4:59:53 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
I would love to see that squad play.............6 years ago. 7/30/2007 5:05:54 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
IT'S A SIGN 7/30/2007 5:06:06 PM |
PimpinHonda All American 4331 Posts user info edit post |
I think they are going to be a solid force in the east with garnett, pierce, and allen,
in the end, its all going to be about coaching, coaching, coaching... 7/30/2007 5:09:41 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
They'll be a good Eastern Conference team, but it still won't compete with the powers of the West.
Atleast the East will finally get some more star power. It sucks that neither Durant or Oden ended up in the East where they could have helped to eventually balance out the conferences. 7/30/2007 5:24:32 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
i don't buy the over the hill argument...a team with garnett, rondo, allen, and pierce can play with anyone 7/30/2007 5:27:35 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they'd be my pick to rep the East lose to the West in the Finals" |
i fixed that for you, yours left open some possibility of them winning
the big question in this is, is one, maybe two, years of being a preseason contender worth giving up one of the best young big men. none of these guys are young and Jefferson is your only young chip.7/30/2007 6:52:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
they could easily win it...the west is obviously better than the east but lebron carried the shitty cavs there last year...they got beat but it was basically a rookie leading the team...we're talking about one of the best players in the league over the last 10-15 years, one of the best wing players in the east and one of the best, if not the best, shooters in the league...if they can stay healthy they can definitely win it...miami and detroit beat the big bad west] 7/30/2007 6:55:49 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
They'd be idiots to make this trade. 7/30/2007 7:03:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
sounds like its definitely going to happen if it hasnt officially yet 7/30/2007 7:05:13 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
So will all these trades not make Doc Rivers their coach?
Can they trade him too? 7/30/2007 7:11:10 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
thank god
kg plz2run away from the black hole of a franchise that is the twolves and never look back
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NEVAR 7/30/2007 7:12:08 PM |