Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
So basically I am curious to hear the views about the afterlife from a wide range of people. I will start the discussion by saying what do you think happens when we die? Is it just instant black and loss of any sort of conciousness or is there another plane of existence. Is death like the bible tells (heaven n hell etc) or is it like a astro physics alternate realities and stuff. 7/14/2007 1:55:29 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
we'll either find out when the time comes, or it won't matter 7/14/2007 2:10:22 AM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
best explanation i have ever heard 7/14/2007 2:16:15 AM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
When we die, our corpses are decomposed by bacteria and provide nutrients for further life.
So, I guess that's afterlife in a taoist sense. 7/14/2007 3:57:22 AM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
yes but you know what i meant by the original post. this wasnt meant to be a religious discussion by the way, more of a "coast to coast AM" weird theory discussion
me personally, i would like to hang around in some way or another just to see how fucked up the world gets after i check out, just to say to myself "damn i am glad i left when i did" like when you leave the party before the cops show up
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joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
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mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
if this is going to be a "coast to coast AM" weird theory discussion then we should begin by finding a crank author and interview him for an hour. That show scares me.
Anyway, I think that after death we continue to live either with God or without. What that means physically I'm not sure, I think it is possible we do not experience time in the same sense after death. I mean its possible there is some sort of multidimensional time which is hard to fathom much here. You could think of our current state as a particular restriction of that bigger reality. The bigger reality can interface freely with our plane of existence, but the converse is does not follow. Essentially the flatland idea that lower dimensional beings cannot exhibit higher dimensional existence. 7/14/2007 4:26:58 AM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
thats the kind of response im looking for, interesting and thought provoking 7/14/2007 4:35:56 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
No fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve an individual life beyond the grave; all the labours of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the solar system, and the whole temple of Man's achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins.
(Bertrand Russell's take on death) 7/14/2007 8:31:27 AM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
^ He's dead too, so he should know. 7/14/2007 9:19:22 AM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
you die and it is the end, kinda like the Soprano's ending.....some people just cant deal with that..... 7/14/2007 11:02:26 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
I have no evidence to think that anything happens besides the end of consciousness, but I sure as shit hope that isn't the case. 7/14/2007 11:09:06 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Your normal body functions stop.
You begin to decay.
You become food for other life forms.
Rinse, repeat. 7/14/2007 11:15:42 AM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
Someone start "The Official Unicorn/Fairies Thread" 7/14/2007 1:24:58 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
You go to the exact same place you were before you were born. 7/14/2007 1:26:42 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
As a proud member of the Frozen Chosen, I believe I will go to Heaven.
Depends on God really what happens after death. No one really knows and for anyone that claims to know is very Phariseeic of them.
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3 Suspended 1175 Posts user info edit post |
nevermind
[Edited on July 14, 2007 at 8:53 PM. Reason : not going to turn it into a god debate thread] 7/14/2007 8:42:36 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
^ Of course not.
You have to have "faith". 7/14/2007 8:47:33 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
I believe that even after you die, there is still at least one task left for you to perform, like jumping from a mountain or managing to climb a set of moving stepping stones. Either way, the ultimate goal is to catch the flag at the top of the pole before automatically entering the pipe to the next world. 7/14/2007 8:59:37 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I have no idea what happens but...
Quote : | "I have no evidence to think that anything happens besides the end of consciousness, but I sure as shit hope that isn't the case. " |
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Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
those who know dont say and those who say dont know 7/15/2007 12:17:27 AM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
Bullshit. Nobody knows. 7/15/2007 12:57:18 AM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
death is a disease
our job is to try and treat it as best we can
one day, aside from violence and accident, we will become immortal 7/15/2007 1:16:59 AM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
^there can be only one.
^^ in saying nobody knows are you not implicitly saying that there does not exist a dead person who knows. But, this means you have ruled out the possibility that people can live on after death and know that they did that. Therefore, you know about life after death. Congrats. 7/15/2007 1:35:52 AM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "mathman: ^^ in saying nobody knows are you not implicitly saying that there does not exist a dead person who knows. But, this means you have ruled out the possibility that people can live on after death and know that they did that. Therefore, you know about life after death. Congrats." |
More bullshit. You can't be alive after death. Don't be a dumbass.
And either way Republican18 was implying that there were all these people among us who know and don't say anything while people who do share their opinion don't know. And that's some serious asshole bullshit, especially considering he didn't say anything while asking the rest of us to share. What a little prick.7/15/2007 6:28:08 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
when i said that, i didnt mean it literally, its just an expression 7/15/2007 6:30:26 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Wow someone has some sand in their vagina. 7/15/2007 6:55:24 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Mizz Bridget, that's the whole question here. If there is no life after death then the whole discussion is pointless. The question is what is life like after death ? 7/15/2007 7:20:18 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
^^^An expression about what? What was your intended meaning when you used it in this thread?
^^
^I get it. But you don't get to redefine life and death here.
Quote : | "mathman: ^^ in saying nobody knows are you not implicitly saying that there does not exist a dead person who knows. But, this means you have ruled out the possibility that people can live on after death and know that they did that. Therefore, you know about life after death. Congrats." |
When I say "nobody," I mean nobody alive. And when I say "alive," I don't mean your bullshit, "I'm dead but I'm still alive" nonsense...I mean "alive," like a fucking doctor uses the word.
And if you really wanna get into it, there's the possibility that afterlife is a unique, distinct experience to each of us each time we die...so somebody could experience it, have some thing explain the meaning of life to him...and then he could return to Earth as a living human with this "knowledge" and still not really know cause he only got his part of the story. So, yeah, I'm right when I say that nobody alive can really know.
And even after you die, there's the possibility that you won't know: 1) because you're not a sentient being anymore, 2) because you're a different sentient being, 3) because the afterlife does not include the concept of "knowing," 4) etc...
And we're just scratching the surface here. This conversation is pointless and superficial, as usual.
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0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
she is obviously heavily drinking and/or drunk again. happens every weekend and is reflected every weekend in her posts in TSB. 7/15/2007 7:27:43 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
you all are gonna be disappointed when you die...and then come back as a Somalian..... 7/15/2007 8:01:58 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I think its pretty obvious that I was just being a wiseass from my original post, however you bring great satisfaction to such activity. Keep it up.
Quote : | "SourPatchinWhen I say "nobody," I mean nobody alive. And when I say "alive," I don't mean your bullshit, "I'm dead but I'm still alive" nonsense...I mean "alive," like a fucking doctor uses the word." |
maybe you've heard the term "afterlife" if it was agreed upon that there is no life after death then it seems that the "afterdeath" would be more apt. But, lets ignore the semantical blackhole into which we are about to plunge, people often die for several minutes then are revived. Even in your very limited idea of "life" these folks get to know something about the afterlife (if there is one).
Quote : | "SourPatchin And we're just scratching the surface here. This conversation is pointless and superficial, as usual." |
then why are you putting such effort and passion into it?
Quote : | "roddyyou all are gonna be disappointed when you die...and then come back as a Somalian....." |
but if you buy into that whole reincarnation thing I thought it came hand in hand with something to the effect of "it is as likely to be brought back as a human as it is for a grain of rice to stand on the head of a needle" at least that is what I learned in this super uber boring movie "Cave of the Yellow Dog". They then justified the sanctity of human life on the scarcity of human reincarnation.7/15/2007 8:47:53 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "mathman: But, lets ignore the semantical blackhole into which we are about to plunge, people often die for several minutes then are revived. Even in your very limited idea of "life" these folks get to know something about the afterlife (if there is one)." |
I'm not that hard to read...
Quote : | "SourPatchin: And if you really wanna get into it, there's the possibility that afterlife is a unique, distinct experience to each of us each time we die...so somebody could experience it, have some thing explain the meaning of life to him...and then he could return to Earth as a living human with this "knowledge" and still not really know cause he only got his part of the story. So, yeah, I'm right when I say that nobody alive can really know." |
Further, they have no way of knowing what they experienced was an afterlife or that they'll get the chance to experience one again or if everybody has an afterlife or if only some people do or, or, or...7/15/2007 9:03:50 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
^well if you are going to be like that then you don't exist either. Prove otherwise. 7/15/2007 9:40:32 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
i suggest the ol' kick him in the nuts proof 7/15/2007 10:13:43 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
"Go towards the light..."
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joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
"Stay away from the light!" 7/16/2007 11:09:48 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
here's my view on the afterlife:
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joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
i dont get it.
your view is Gallipolis? or Valhalla, perhaps? 7/16/2007 6:32:35 PM |