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dunno what you can get for it

but i've got a valve junior and cab i'll sell you

my new plan to develop a vinylbandit guitar is to take the basics of a les paul jr. (all mahogany, set neck, one p-90, uncompensated wraparound bridge/tailpiece, single volume/tone) and combine them with the shape and appearance of a vox phantom...plus an analog preset switch that goes between pickup straight to output jack and volume rolled off to 6 and tone to 7

6/30/2010 9:18:14 PM

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Sweet I pm'd you.

7/2/2010 12:06:34 AM

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gonna be building one of these today (more realistically tomorrow). I'm doing a few mods also, there is an infinite repeat mod that involves replacing like 1 resistor but i'm going to put both resistors on a DPDT switch so i have both. Socketing a couple caps and a few other things

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7/19/2010 3:59:25 PM

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i got a boss dm-2 a couple weeks ago for $50, which blew my mind (the price)

between that and and my DMM, i can't seeing desiring a different delay

that one sounds pretty good for a digital, though

7/19/2010 6:34:23 PM

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Trade new pair of casual steel toe safety shoes, size 11 for guitar. Shoes cost over $100.00. Never been worn. Made by Caterpillar footwear, division of Wolverine. Name is Oxford Dune, P/N 89296. They look like a fancy pair od Tennis ssoes but are steel toe and are approved safety shoes.

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7/20/2010 4:07:39 AM

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i found an old 'slammer by hamer' vk-1 in my closet at home that a friend gave me for no reason years ago, i think i might paint it for shits

no giggles just shits

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7/29/2010 1:32:58 AM

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I'm just going to leave this here:

http://www.gregsguitars.net/

(ibtbuyanad - i have no affiliation with this guy, but he has a great collection of vintage gear for sale, including a $16k 1952 les paul)

7/29/2010 11:38:23 PM

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from Boris last night

8/3/2010 4:49:40 PM

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I like this a lot.





might be fun here and there...

8/6/2010 10:48:16 PM

Chop
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haha, power chords on the Geiger counter sound like the hypno-toad

8/6/2010 11:03:49 PM

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my delay build kinda failed so i'm just going to buy one of these then finish my build and cascade them

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8/16/2010 11:22:05 AM

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wooo just picked up a jackson kelly (with no hardware) from a friend for $40

Between what I've got lying around and what I can cannibalize from my other jackson I'm about to have a fucking stellar axe

8/16/2010 3:40:08 PM

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that you will sell to me for $60

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8/16/2010 4:19:50 PM

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has anyone played a danelectro longhorn bass

i want a bass, and found some for ~160 on craigslist in FL, where I am moving next week.

8/18/2010 9:28:36 PM

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they're cool, as all danos are

but be aware that it's a short scale bass

so it'll sound a little plinky

8/19/2010 2:39:54 AM

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So, today I got back what will be the vinylbandit model (at least for a while).

It's a mid-'60s Domino Californian, which was a Japanese copy of a Vox Phantom. Originally it looked like this:



Awesome shape that I've always loved (and cool wood-grain pickguard), but a lot of weird/useless '60s Japanese features like a big inaccurate vibrato and a terrible-sounding string mute. The weirdest thing about this Domino, though, is that the knobs are on the upper bout, and if you play with your hand in the normal spot you're constantly rolling down the volume.

I got one off of eBay for a few hundred bucks knowing that I wanted to make it into a main guitar for myself, so MOD TIME!



Big stupid vibrato tailpiece replaced with a compensated wraparound. Knobs moved to correct side. Bridge pickup replaced with a custom-made coverless P-90.

Plate has three slider switches, with #1 and #3 being on/offs for the pickups. Pickups are wired in series like a Danelectro, so when both are on they are combined, not blended. Middle switch is an automatic volume control that effectively sets the volume at 6 or 10, the optimum placements for clean and dirty with the EL-84 amps I use.

All that mounted on a custom-cut tortoise pickguard. I love this thing. It's still quirky as hell, but now the quirks are exactly what I want. Work was done by Guru Guitars on Hillsborough St. and turned out even better than I expected, and I was expecting great things.

8/21/2010 9:21:23 PM

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Trying desperately to find an Ampeg V4 and start a stoner metal band, trying desperately to not spend $300 on a Sunn Concert lead

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8/26/2010 8:33:44 PM

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recently re-did my pedal board. thought I'd share.

snarling dog whino-wah>barber tone press>george dennis vol pedal>EH ring thing>hermida zen-drive>boss flanger>artec delay>boss DD-3 delay.

9/10/2010 9:54:01 AM

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anyone know where I can get a roland 13-pin cable for guitar synth ASAP? guitar center/harrys/sam ash dont carry it in store.

9/10/2010 10:54:40 AM

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Can't stop building pedals. Built that rebote delay, finally got it to work after a while. Built a couple of ZVEX SHOs:



The Delay looks like shit so i won't embarrass myself with a pic.

Building a Rat Clone next and going to be etching out a reverb after i make some mods to the BYOC reverb.

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10/6/2010 10:12:52 PM

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^cool stuff. I have a lot of friends into that. I considered it myself and then just never put aside the time.

Alrighty, question about amps, cabs, and speaker impedance. I've never really thought about it before I started looking into using my dual rectifier 100W tube head with a 2x12 for the rock stuff I am starting to play where I live now. In the past I have always used a 4x12 with my head and ran 8ohms out of the head into the cabinet with 8ohms.

Now that I am looking at getting a 2x12 for smaller venues and a different style, I have some questions that some gearheads or electrical engineers in here should probably be able to answer - and probably think I am stupid for not understanding this

I understand that a tube amps rated wattage is at a given impedance. I know my Mesa Dual Rec is 100W, but I do not know @ which impedance. I would assume they rated this at 4ohms vs 8ohms or 16ohms (doesn't say on their site but that makes the most sense to me). If anyone can confirm this let me know.

Onto speakers...I know it is a lot of info but I think it is all needed to be clear.

My plan is to get a 2x12 with Green Backs (actually some greenback knockoffs I have heard very, very good things about). They sell them in 8ohm and 16ohm and I am trying to decide which to get and how to wire them in order to get the best sound I can paired with my head. Basically I want to be able to turn up the tube amp to get the best tone out of it and break up the speakers without any risk of blowing them.

I do understand that wiring speakers in series adds the impedance (8ohms in series with 8ohms = 16ohms) and that wiring speakers in parallel divides (8ohms in parallel with 8ohms = 4ohms).

I also understand that because my amp is rated 100W at a certain impedance (lets assume 4ohms), running it at a different impedance will change (in this case lower if it is rated at 4ohms) the output wattage such that:

Amplifier Output = Amplifier Watts x (Amplifier Rated-At Ohms / Actual Output Ohms to Match Speakers)

ie If my amp is 100W at 4ohms, then the total amp output would be 25W at 16ohms.

How is this amp total watts being treated at the speakers? Does this mean that when the amp is output 25W at 16ohms, the actual wattage applied to each speaker is recalculated using the speaker ohms?

ie the 25W coming out of the amp at 16ohms. Is this then compared to the fact that each speaker is at 8ohms such that each speaker receives 12.5W of the total 25W?[/b]

Using that logic and the fact that the green backs are 30W speakers, I came to the conclusion that I should either wire two 8ohms in series for a 16ohm cabinet resistance (25W total, 12.5W to each speaker), or wire two 16ohm speakers in parallel for an 8ohm cabinet (50W, 25W each speaker).

Does all of this make sense to anyone? And if so, which of those two would most likely be the best setup for me?

Thanks a ton for anyone who reads that wall of text...

Summary if you don't want to read any of that...
1) My amp is rated 100W, is this most likely rated at 4ohms?
2) I am wanting to get a 2x12 cabinet to play smaller venues with more of a rock focus (think weezer, built to spill, etc.). What kind of individual speaker and total wired speaker impedance should I use to get the best sound out of my 100W through a 2x12 cabinet?

[Edited on November 24, 2010 at 4:40 PM. Reason : .]

11/24/2010 4:40:26 PM

vinylbandit
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Your Mesa is most like 8 ohms. The only common things that run 4 ohms are Fenders (Bassman, Dual Showman, etc).

The best cabinet for your amp is one that matches it impedance-wise. You could run an 8 ohm head with a 16 ohm cabinet and get some volume reduction, but it'd be at the cost of performance (not just volume).

No matter how you wire them, you run a serious chance of blowing a pair of Greenbacks with a 100W amp.

I know "buy a different amp" is not what you want to hear, but a Dual Rec's not exactly a straight-ahead rock amp in the first place.

11/24/2010 11:31:43 PM

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Don't buy greenbacks. There are plenty of great (read: better) sounding rock speakers out there. I've heard that Warehouse Guitar Speakers has a greenback copy that sounds better and has a much higher power rating and like 1/3 of the price. Same with Eminence, though they aren't necessarily clones so you might have to do a bit of investigating to find a good match.



The other guy in my band has a Mark IV and apparently it doesn't take 16 ohm cabs. If your amp can take 16 ohms just get two 16 ohm speakers run them in parallel and build a little box to run your speakers in series.



Now, If you want to use one cab, just use the 8 ohm jack if you want to use both then use the box. Dont mismatch impedences. You will not get much of a volume reduction with a 100 Watt head no matter what you do. Ignore what the power rating says on the cab how loud any speaker is depends on its Sensitivity. V30s are 100db whereas Greenbacks are 98 db. Don't be fooled, these are pretty much exactly the same. V30s can handle twice the amount of power but are basically putting out the same volume. A difference of 3db doubles/halves the power but it takes 10db to double/half the volume. Now i have read that you want the sum of your individual speaker rating to be larger (if not double) your amp's power rating. This is why 4x12s exist in the first place, back in the day no one knew how to build speakers that could handle super high power ratings. I can get pretty solid rock tones out of my 2x12 that has Swamp Thangs in it, but on the other hand my amp can go from the cleanest of sounds to kvlt black metal bzzzzing mayhem.




Like VB said, don't expect to get a great rock sound out of your amp. Depending on how clean your amp gets, i'd reccomend using some kind of clean boost. Xotic BB PReamp is the best i've ever used. I could build you a Zvex SHO for like $30 that will get the job done but the two i've built are super noisy if the gain is maxed, and while mine seems to be super sturdy i couldn't guarantee it would last more than 30 seconds.

I ended up building that rat clone but i don't really like the way it sounds so i'm not using it. Thinking about doing some mods to it but its on a PCB and i don't really want to have parts floating around in the box.

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11/25/2010 12:30:31 AM

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Nevermind

Your amp has a mutlitap transformer. Its putting out 100 Watts (nominally whatever the fuck that means) no matter which outputs you're using


You can easily build series or parallel boxes with no more parts than 3 jacks and speaker wire from radio shack and with a little bit of algerbra you can figure out how to run any number combination of cabs in just about any configuration.

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11/25/2010 12:36:33 AM

vinylbandit
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I think that amp needs more jacks and switches.

11/25/2010 12:45:56 AM

AstralAdvent
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Seriously i thought my amp had a lot.

Thats one thing i don't understand about mesa's heads.




Why all the extra shit 90% of it is never used by anyone at all

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[Edited on November 25, 2010 at 1:02 AM. Reason : and i guess theres a half wattage switch on your amp]

11/25/2010 12:59:17 AM

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If you count every single piece of hardware on my amp, including the ext. speaker jack and the on/off switch, I've got two jacks, three knobs, and five switches.

11/25/2010 1:10:08 AM

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On my phone atm so not a lot of time to talk but just wanted to clarify that I do have a slightly diff model dual rec. Only the newest ones have the 50W switch whereas mine does not. And you're exactly right in that I was actually looking at using Warehouse speakers for this.

Also I do know it is not the ideal rock amp but all those switches and things make it pretty versatile. Mine has 3 channels each with 2 personalities via switches. As far as preamp stuff I will most likely have a Boss ME-70 in front of my amp for the effects and it does have a lot of preamp options too.

I know that getting a separate amp would be the best but im hoping to just get a good 2x12 for now and make do. Appreciate the feedback so far. Ill read more when im near a computer.

PS pretty sure the me70 has a clean boost and it also has a decent nuff clone and a half decent tube screamer clone. Hoping with all that available ill be able to get some decent rock sound dialed in

[Edited on November 25, 2010 at 8:46 AM. Reason : ]

11/25/2010 8:37:25 AM

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I really don't like Boss multi fx pedals... won't say more than that.





Okay so i will say the main thing that a boost will do is increase the peak to peak value of your signal till it clips the input stage of your amp. I think those kinds of pedals do all of the math internally so it ends up still sounding kind of steril imo.

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11/25/2010 9:07:53 PM

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Yea I wasn't big on multi fx till we used the me50 in the studio. Other guitar player owns the me70 now and I've messed with it quite a bit and there is enough good stuff on it to make it worth the price imo. Def some crappy stuff too of course

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11/25/2010 9:49:00 PM

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Part of my frustration with them usually comes with attempting to dial things in like i would regular amps/pedals which isn't really how those things are supposed to be treated. IDK i had a Boss GT-6 which is apparently what Opeth used live before the 8 or 10 or whatever they have now, and everything i dialed like sounded like shit, whereas theirs sounded sick.

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11/25/2010 10:29:31 PM

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Totally understand that. Even with the same ME70, Brady gets much better tones and sounds out of it than I do. He's showed me a few things but it will definitely take me some time to get everything figured out.

I wish I wasn't such a cheapskate and could just splurge on some sort of 30W VOX or Orange and use that for this rock stuff and use my MESA for metal stuff but that's just more money than I want to spend on this.

11/26/2010 11:53:52 AM

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If you look around, you can probably find a Crate V30 or V32 112 or 212 combo that will do quite nicely. They sound 90% like a AC30 but you can get one for around $300.

11/26/2010 5:08:36 PM

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^Interesting. Just read a lot of good reviews. Also someone 20 mins from my parents house has the 212 listed for 275 obo...

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11/26/2010 5:53:33 PM

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I'd jump on it if you can. They're very good amps. I had a head, and it held up to my AC30. Not quite as much sparkle, but at sixth of the price that's not much of a complaint.

11/26/2010 5:59:10 PM

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Definitely going to contact him. Having never played am AC30 I know/hear they have a little more high end/twang to them and I assume this is the same? I imagine I could still dial in a great weezer tone for the covers (one of the reasons I am looking at stuff ). Esp with the preamp/eq ill have with my pedal.

Also after seeing the picture and reading his post more carefully I think what he has is actually the 1x12. Might still contact him tho...any qualms with geting the 1x12 vs the 2x12?

[Edited on November 26, 2010 at 6:37 PM. Reason : ]

11/26/2010 6:26:08 PM

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If you're going to mic it, it won't make a difference. If not, the 112 will be a little beamier and have a little less headroom, but it's a not a huge difference.

I wouldn't call an EL84 amp "twangy" necessarily, but most of the AC-ish circuits are on the bright side.

Be aware, on an amp like this there is essentially no "clean" sound. Even the clean sounds have a little bit of an edge to them. It's a great sound, and has always been my preference, but if you're looking for Fender-like cleans you won't find them.

11/26/2010 6:47:59 PM

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appreciate it. I'm hoping the guy gets back to me so I can mess around with it tomorrow before I head back to SC. And yea, I think "brighter" was the term I was looking for over twangy

As far as cleans, yea I don't need anything super clean. I'm the same in that I always like a little bit of "grit" even in my clean sound. Playing something like Weezer's Island in the Sun would be the cleanest I need to get and we have two guitarists and the other guy has a fender so he'll have those cleans covered

11/26/2010 6:59:43 PM

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I recently discovered that i don't like super clean sounds either, i've changed my setup to have the clean channel on my amp always boosted. Its just way more dynamic, the chrunchy sound from digging is the cats ass.

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11/29/2010 12:45:05 PM

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picked up the V32 1x12 this weekend and won an ME-70 on ebay last night. Hopefully I'll get a chance to play them together this weekend (busy week) and I will report back.

11/29/2010 2:14:32 PM

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PS: I'm still interested in looking into a 2x12 so I can use my mesa head at home in SC too. Not as urgent now since it wouldn't be doing double duty, but I know I see plenty of people using these 100W Dual Rec heads through 2x12s so I'll have to look into what speakers they are using and still being able to crank it.

11/29/2010 5:17:41 PM

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I'd go with a V30 and a T75 or a Lead 80.

11/29/2010 7:34:42 PM

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Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd i just bought another cab. I have a problem, sign me up for hoarders.

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11/29/2010 10:42:31 PM

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Yo VB whats the cheapest combo amp (preferably tube) that i can use to test pedals that i build. I'd rather not fuck around with my main amp and a breadboard... Doesn't need to be super loud or anything just something clean. Or even a cheap amp head that doesn't suck, i have been debated on getting an old Acoustic head if i can find one for cheap enough, but its hard to filter them out on ebay and even harder to find concrete information on them. People's listings and pictures never match others and there isn't really much logic to the numbering system used to name all those amps.

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11/29/2010 11:05:55 PM

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The problem with that idea is that all the cheap, small tube combos you can get are low-wattage amps built to distort pretty quickly. You could try the AC4TV but I'm not sure it'd be clean enough.

11/29/2010 11:37:15 PM

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Word. Yeah i've seen a few tube pedal amp type things that get pretty loud, and all thats needed to get more headroom is to just build a charge pump and crank up your voltage to idk some retarted value way higher than 9 volts. I'm kind of wondering why amp builders wouldn't do this since they always have access to way more voltage than something with a 9v adapter


whatever i guess i'll just go with an Acoustic head

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11/30/2010 2:25:52 PM

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^^^ if you just want a clean amplification of your pedal's output, why not use a solid-state amp?

11/30/2010 5:55:40 PM

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^ ya just get the latest SS practice amp at GC. or a roland cube

11/30/2010 7:03:26 PM

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Nah i'm definitely just going to wait and get some acoustic head. That way i can use it in my band also

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11/30/2010 9:35:26 PM

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Got to use the V32 and the Boss ME-70 this weekend and I was really impressed with it. We weren't turned up super loud since we aren't playing with a drummer at the moment but I still got to open it up enough since we had bass, two guitars, and were using the PA for vocals.

I had the amp with Low, Mid, High all at 12 o'clock. And just adjusted the volume and gain accordingly for my clean and my overdrive channels. I had the overdrive channel set-up for more of that mid-gain sound on something like Pinkerton (since we are doing Weezer covers at the moment) and I was using the 4-band EQ on the pedal to tweak the sound further (hence why I left the amp knobs at 12). The pedal actually has a respectable Big Muff emulator and I added a little of that in for some of the fuzz found on the blue album and used the pedal's tubescreamer emulator for some of the green album stuff for a little more "modern" sound with the gain.

Overall I was really happy with the sound. It will take me some more tweaking to get stuff exactly where I want but it didn't take long to dial in some tones that were really close to what I was going for. I haven't been much of a patch guy in the past but I might actually try saving some once I get the tone dialed for what I want.

Good suggestion on the amp and the pedal with it just gives me a lot of options . The only other test now is seeing how much headroom I have left when we are playing with a drummer.

12/6/2010 8:48:59 AM

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