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Muzition00
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I dont know if anyone has posted about this or not, but I searched and didn't find anything...

I was curious if anyone had been getting into the custom song scene at all for Guitar hero. By replacing a few certain files in the game's infrastructure with your own personally made (or downloaded from the internet) note charts and songs, you can play pretty much any song you want.

I know they've had the guitar hero clones for your computer and stuff, but they never really felt satisfying. This is as close as you can get, I think, seeing as how it's the actual game.

Im currently in the process of putting together my own track list ith the following songs:

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"1. Opening Licks

Opeth - The Leper Affinity
Blue Oyster Cult - Burnin; for You
Blind Melon - No Rain
Opeth - Black Rose Immortal
Smashing Pumpkins - Bullet with Butterfly Wings

2. Amp-Warmers

RHCP - Under the Bridge
Offspring - Damnit I Changed Again
Nerf Herder - Love Sandwich
The Toadies - Possum Kingdom
Radiohead - My Iron Lung

3. String-Snappers

The Darkness - I Believe in a Thing Called Love
Opeth - Ghost of Perdition
Spin Doctors - Little Miss Cant be Wrong
Blues trav - Carolina Blues
RATM - Freedom

4. Thrash and Burn

Hendrix - All Along the Watchtower
Rammstein - Links
Slipknot - Sic
Offspring - Come Out and Play
Dragonforce - My Spirit Will Go On

5. Return of the Shred

Paramore - misery Business
No Doubt - Just a Girl
Mighty Morphon Power Rangers Theme
SRV - Pride and Joy
Ramones - Blitzkreig Bop

6. Relentless Riffs

OK Go - Here it Goes Again
One Winged Angel - Advent Children
Ozzy - Crazy Train
SoaD - Hypnotize
Daft Punk - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

7. Furious Fretwork

Cake - Short Skirt
Lonely Train - Black Stone Cherry
SoaD - BYOB
Jerry C - Canon Rock
The Final Countdown - Europe

8. Face-Melters

FM - Black Friday Rule (live)
At the Drive in - arc arsenal
SRV - Little Wing
Devin townsend - Bad Devil
Dragonforce - Through the Fire and Flames

Bonus

* "Raw Dog" --- Buddy Berkman's Ballad - Buckethead (Ex)
* "Arterial Black" --- Manson - Disposable Teens (all diff)
* "Collide" --- Dropkick Murphys - Shipping Up to Boston
* "Elephant Bones" --- Larrikin Love - Happy as Annie
* "Fall of Pangea" --- Opeth - The Moor
* "FTK" --- Led Zeppelin - Black Dog (all)
* "Gemini" --- Marilyn Manson - Beautiful People (ex)
* "Pushpush" --- Rammstein - Du Hast (ex)
* "Laughtrack" --- The Pylons are Trap Balls
* "Less Talk More Rokk" --- Dire Straights - Money for Nothing (ex)
* "Jordan" --- The Cure - Friday, I'm in Love
* "Mr. Fix It" --- RATM - Know Your Enemy
* "The New Black" --- Concert - Cacophony (ex)
* "One for the Road" --- Green Day - Jesus of Suburbia (ex)
* "Parasite" --- Outkast - Hey Ya (all diff)
* "Radium Eyes" --- Selkies: The Endless Obsession - B/t the Buried and Me
* "Red Lottery" --- In Regard to Myself - Underoath
* "Six" --- Led Zeppelin - Good Times Bad Times (ex)
* "Soy Bomb" --- Darude - Sandstorm
* "The Light That Blinds" --- You're the reason - Franz Ferdinand
* "Thunderhorse" --- Dont Stop Believing - Journey
* "Trogdor" --- Those who - Shadows Fall
* "X-Stream" --- Wholelottacrap - Wholelotta people
* "Yes We Can" --- Inspector Gadget"


Some of the songs were on a previous custom build, while most of the others were songs that I have and the note charts were available on the internet. I am also doing a few custom note charts for songs that I really want to play. On that list above, the ones I'm making are Pride and Joy, Shipping Up to Boston, Happie as Annie, Bad Devil, and the live version of Black Friday Rule from the Whiskey on a Sunday album... the one that's 12 minutes long.

It's interesting because one thing you learn when compiling a custom Guitar Hero disc is that some of your favorite songs are boring and would be no fun to play and other songs you don't really like can be really challenging and fun songs. It takes a while to put the discs together, but it's definitely worth it to anyone who has played out both GH1 and GH2.

It's important to note that most of the songs available on the custom scene are expert only, though you can find easier tracks and make them even easier using your own note editor. You also (as far as I know) need a modded PS2 to play the custom discs (I dont think you can do this with the 360 version). The process itself is completely legal, assuming you have all the songs yourself, and don't go downloading them off the internets. The process is even, as I've heard it, supported by the GH game companies as a way to boost awareness and support for the games.

All in all, I would recommend this to anyone who just has that list of songs that they absolutely want to play on Guitar Hero. Shoot me an email or PM or something if you want some of the note charts and stuff that I'm working on (not done yet, though). The rest you can find online at the link listed below, as well as a plethora of other information as far as changing game titles and editing random bits of text around the game, including load tips and menu options.

How to compile and create the game disc/image:
http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5925

List of currently archived note charts:
http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16533

Enjoy!

8/7/2007 10:05:02 AM

nothing22
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i'd be all over this but i don't have the tools or the effort

8/7/2007 11:13:56 AM

Muzition00
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"the effort"

Yeah. A lot of the software used to do the customization is homebrew and honestly pretty shitty. It's real easy to mess up stuff. Writing custom note charts also takes about 10 hours for a hard song, but I'll have to admit,when you sit down to play it, its all worth it.

8/7/2007 12:30:19 PM

Noen
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mod chips are currently illegal by the dmca

8/7/2007 12:35:06 PM

Muzition00
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I don't know the specifics of the law, but Wikipedia says, "It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services that are used to circumvent measures that control access to copyrighted works."

By that standard, couldn't they send Dell to jail.

*sigh*

Stupid, intentionally vague laws...

8/7/2007 12:52:14 PM

Noen
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i agree completely.

8/7/2007 2:43:47 PM

federal
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Quote :
"Mighty Morphon Power Rangers Theme"

8/7/2007 2:49:42 PM

ShinAntonio
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The GH guys will support it as long as it remains small and niche. If it ever became large enough to make a difference in sales (highly unlikely), the cease and desist letters would be on the way.

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"Offspring - Damnit I Changed Again"


I'd like to see that in a GH game someday.

8/7/2007 4:00:34 PM

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so why exactly doesnt the people that make guitar hero do this?...the first time i played the game i asked someone like "do they have a way to put songs you want in the game?"

seems like the game would be a billion times better if you could put songs you actually want in...and it also seems like it shouldnt be that hard to do that...

8/7/2007 4:04:14 PM

CalledToArms
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id like to see how i do playing my own songs in GH form

8/7/2007 4:06:57 PM

tennisdude
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depending on the song.. but most of them would probably be a lot more difficult.. at least thats what i would think.

8/7/2007 4:12:45 PM

Wraith
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^^^In order to put songs in the game they have to acquire certain rights to the songs. If they let users do it, the individual user would have to get the rights to the song for it to be legal.

8/7/2007 4:48:30 PM

CalledToArms
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Quote :
"5. Return of the Shred"

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"Ramones - Blitzkreig Bop"


8/7/2007 4:58:39 PM

Muzition00
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"so why exactly doesn't the people that make guitar hero do this?"


The only thing I can think of is that they might reduce the sales of the new games with newer songs. It also might be that most people don't have hard drives, and you would need something like that to do it on the PS2. I could see it on the 360 though.


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Haha, yeah. I kinda just threw the songs on their without any concern for order.

8/7/2007 8:05:54 PM

CalledToArms
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haha figured something like that, just really stuck out at me

8/7/2007 8:34:23 PM

Muzition00
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Ive been working charting the Flogging Molly track for the last couple days. Because of this, I've had the song stuck in my head for that long. I'm pretty sure that, by the time I'm done with the song, I'll not want to hear it for a long time.

8/8/2007 12:41:29 AM

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"The only thing I can think of is that they might reduce the sales of the new games with newer songs. It also might be that most people don't have hard drives, and you would need something like that to do it on the PS2. I could see it on the 360 though."

I don't know if you've ever noticed, but the songs on GH2 aren't original, they are covers. So I would assume the whole idea behind preventing customization is song copyrights. I'm sure red octane would love having the RIAA breathing down their necks.

[Edited on August 8, 2007 at 12:54 AM. Reason : ]

8/8/2007 12:53:35 AM

TaterSalad
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"SRV - Little Wing"


ftmfw!

8/8/2007 1:01:26 AM

AttackLax
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I saw a video of a custom "Master of Puppets" that looked fun.

How hard is it to mod the PS2?

8/8/2007 8:32:49 AM

Wraith
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^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrNxjmacWjw

8/8/2007 8:48:33 AM

Duncan
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Quote :
"I don't know if you've ever noticed, but the songs on GH2 aren't original, they are covers. So I would assume the whole idea behind preventing customization is song copyrights. I'm sure red octane would love having the RIAA breathing down their necks.
"


Not all of the songs are covers, a few use the original master recordings. They still have to have the rights to the song in order to cover it. Guitar Hero III and Rock Band will supposedly have many more master recordings. I think most of the songs they have already revealed are master recordings, thanks to new deals with MTV and record companies.

Oh, and Possum Kingdom is one of my favorite songs to play on the 360 version. Good choice.

8/8/2007 9:14:50 AM

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This is cool and all, and I might consider doing it if it wasn't so time-consuming. If I'm going to spend 10 hours working on something musical, I'm going to be sitting down with the portastudio writing songs, not transcribing someone else's stuff for a game.

8/8/2007 9:20:12 AM

Muzition00
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yeah, thats the frustrating thing...

but, the way I sortof look at it is that I'm using all these 40 or 50 other note charts tat people have spent a collected hundreds of hours on, I could give somethign back by writing mine and posting them for other people to use, especially if they are songs that i really really want to hear.

Granted, I did pick hard, erratic, long songs. Had I picked easier, studio songs with repeated rhythms and a steadier beat, it would only have taken me about 2 to 3 hours, but playing these songs I'm working on, in the end, will be much more rewarding.

8/8/2007 11:14:08 AM

CalledToArms
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yea its an interesting idea. and the concept of the game and gameplay is super fun. but to me personally once it starts taking hours to do something, i feel like it would be more rewarding to learn the actual instrument than learn how to play it on guitar hero after a few hours.

8/8/2007 11:42:03 AM

xplosivo
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These custom discs would be a lot of fun if you could play the songs at all of the levels. Some of us aren't at Expert level.

8/8/2007 2:22:22 PM

drunknloaded
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i want to do a three 6 mafia song if i could make my own...

8/8/2007 7:34:57 PM

Muzition00
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I finished the Black Friday Rule track yesterday. I'm going to continue to work on Little Wing for the next couple days.

On a complete side note - power bill came in today and I'm poor as fuck.

8/9/2007 12:40:30 PM

DamnStraight
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ooo black friday rule
ooooooo

8/9/2007 1:46:03 PM

davidkunttu
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disposable heroes would be siiiiick

8/9/2007 3:31:51 PM

Muzition00
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I also just finished Pride and Joy, just have to add Star Power.

I should probably test and see if the note charts port over correctly before I start dicking around with new shit.

8/10/2007 12:42:21 AM

Muzition00
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So, I finished putting together the full GH Custom build, and it was a huge pain in the ass. There are still a few bugs, and the audio levels on some of the songs are off, but hopefully I can figure out how to fix all this over the next week or two.

I went in and changed a lot of the game text, the characters names and bios, etc.

One of the neat things that I did was rename the difficulties to people who often play with me who are at that difficulty. I.E. The friend who blows is the "easy" level, etc.

Oh, and I also did a third custom song, "Happy as Annie" by Larrikin Love. It was easy. It only took me like 40 minutes but its fun to play.

8/15/2007 2:40:31 AM

Flying Tiger
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I love my bio.

You did a damn good job on everything, it's fun as hell to play.

8/15/2007 3:35:16 AM

Muzition00
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I didnt want to put Joe on there, but Aaron pushed for it.

8/15/2007 11:32:36 AM

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