the point of this thread was how different this new cd was, even tho i love their old stuff too >.<

in other news i dono what i think of DEP recording with chris not behind the set

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 10:58 AM. Reason : ]

8/20/2007 10:54:57 AM

see I dont even know how old that song is

I'm pretty open to new music too, although the metalcore genre hasnt ever really been my cup of tea, I was expecting BTBAM to be a little better since there are two threads dedicated to them on the first page

oh well

8/20/2007 11:01:28 AM

no worries. i guess one day they need to write an album with NOTHING BUT the non-metal stuff they do so that the people that dont want to wade through that side of it dont have to.

i suppose its a bit much to ask people to sit through half of a 14 min song as well to get to sections they might really enjoy if theyre not into metal.

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 11:08 AM. Reason : ]

8/20/2007 11:04:33 AM

If you want just Tommy, listen to Giles

Not at all like BTBAM, heh.

8/20/2007 11:24:10 AM

I love it.

and couldn't care less at all what any of you say.

8/20/2007 11:31:24 AM

just listened to the whole thing

had some ienjoyable moments but by and large just not that interesting, shred scream shred scream

meh, thx for the music though

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 12:02 PM. Reason : not for me]

8/20/2007 12:01:20 PM

listened to it as well.

this kind of music makes me hate white people

8/20/2007 12:27:17 PM

however the don luke album is quite enjoyable

8/20/2007 12:37:14 PM

Haven't had a chance to sit down and listen to the new album yet, but I am looking forward to it. I can see how that particular style (especially the vocals) does take a lot of getting used to for most people. I primarily listen to that type of metal for the music anyway, and if you want to know what they're saying/screaming, welp.... there is this thing called the internet.

8/20/2007 3:05:58 PM

i got the album last night, jamie....i just woke up and giving the first listen.

im only 2 songs in, but im liking the flow. i'll post how i feel after the listen

8/20/2007 6:22:21 PM

ah cool JUST got home from work and was about to see if you were on. glad you got it

8/20/2007 6:24:32 PM

you know, i was giving it a second chance, and it was working alright...but this banjo shit 11 minutes in really took me out of the mood.

8/20/2007 7:23:12 PM

first listen: this is probably the most inventive album to come out for this genre, combining all the influences metal always had going for it, and uplifting them on a pedestal with a new representation. its fun and creative, yet still holds its metal girth with some brutal riffs. the flow of the album is something any artist of any genre should strive for.

this album breathes talent, screams insanity, and an original sound is born. incredible album.

now its only test is that of time.

8/20/2007 7:28:46 PM

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"combining all the influences metal always had going with some random banjos and acordians"

it aint terrible, but i wouldnt buy it eh.

8/20/2007 7:35:22 PM

i keep trying to download this, and it keeps hanging around 65%

god may be trying to tell me not to listen

i'll keep trying, of course, but until then i'll stick to jacksonville city nights and heartbreaker on a loop

8/20/2007 7:47:19 PM

no worries i appreciate the effort, if youre really interested hit me up on aim or something and ill hook you up with a song

8/20/2007 8:48:55 PM

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"but this banjo shit 11 minutes in really took me out of the mood. "

haha that was one of the parts i really liked

8/20/2007 11:21:15 PM

i dont know where at any point of this album you could say they just simply "shred". a deconstruction of the guitar work would show otherwise. a greater appreciation of musical talent on a technical level will do well to put you in awe of this album.

as far as the screaming...thats something i cannot debate if you already have a notion to not like it. but for people like me, even though you can't tell what they're saying most of the time, it SPEAKS more so than any other music. its the raw expression of the mood they're trying to convey...its a progression and outward manifestation of feelings this band has...a voice for their convictions. and what it does for me is it compliments my emotional parallels to the aggression, the intensity, and direction. and you can take the screams as another instrument...from what i know of BTBAM, the singer is operatically trained. or you can take the free will route...if you can connect emotionally to the music, apply whatever lyrics you want that pertain to your life instead. im sure you do this with music you understand already...think "i bet you think this song is about you, don't you."

8/21/2007 5:21:19 AM

yes it was a generalization, i wasn't actually trying to get into a serious discussion about something that only appealed to me about 20% of time i was listening to it BUT

there is no doubt they are very technically proficient, intricate and difficult riffs do not always equal enjoyable to listen to, in MY opinion it sounds forced and does not flow to me. do i like metal? no, outside of pantera there is no metal band i really like. its just my taste in music, but with two threads i figured i'd give it a chance, maybe this band was different. and while very diverse, in the end, they are still a metal band and i found myself enjoying the non-metal parts and being bored by the metal parts. it has nothing to do with "greater appreciation of musical talent on a technical level" and everything to do with taste. i can thoroughly understand why people who enjoy metal would think this is an amazing album, it's very genre-defying, however as i stated before its just not for me.

[Edited on August 21, 2007 at 11:09 AM. Reason : .]

8/21/2007 11:04:57 AM

lol @ this thread. But crazy to think they're doing their 10 year anniversary tour for this album. This turned out to be the album that put them on the map for a larger audience. Glad they were able to get off Victory records too.

9/18/2017 5:56:58 PM

Wish they would have added a Raleigh show instead of a second Charlotte date.

9/19/2017 12:33:20 PM

lol at Ernie

Quote :

"it's adieu "

9/19/2017 1:02:41 PM

Ernie bringing the lulz. That guy used to shit on everything.

I did a google on that Don Luke album being discussed itt. couldn't find shit on it?

9/19/2017 3:06:41 PM

^^^ yeah im surprised they didnt do one show in the triangle area considering that's where they mostly all live these days.

I'm really stoked for the show here in Dallas next month. They played Dallas last year at a really big venue and it sold out but that venue is just too big to be enjoyable for me often. This time they're playing at a smaller place I really like. It's been a minute since ive seen them at a smaller venue too.

[Edited on September 19, 2017 at 3:28 PM. Reason : ]

9/19/2017 3:25:01 PM

Damn, has it really been 10 years?

9/19/2017 3:56:00 PM

Too much incoherent hoarse screaming. Never got the point of that past more than a few seconds of it. It's just, annoying.

9/20/2017 7:33:20 PM