starts tonight!!

8/22/2007 11:38:53 AM

attn: users with posts < 10

8/22/2007 11:45:14 AM

nothing

and i mean nothing

will ever beat the original "dream team."

unless God, Buddha, Jesus, Allah, and Vishnu all formed a superteam with Chuck Norris as their coach.

8/22/2007 11:47:04 AM

with Jason Kapono and Seacat on the pine

8/22/2007 11:47:59 AM

So are we keeping this thread or what?

8/22/2007 12:36:48 PM

Thanks, I didn't know this was going on. 11 pm on ESPN Classic.

8/22/2007 12:38:13 PM

yeah... why classic?

8/22/2007 12:39:19 PM

I say keep the thread, it could be used for general discussion throughout the Team USA current summer schedule as well as updates until the summer olympics next year

8/22/2007 12:41:03 PM

yeah keep it, hopefully we've developed with more team unity than the last showing...

8/22/2007 12:42:08 PM

yeah but nobody cares..... it's on ESPN classic at 11

8/22/2007 12:43:02 PM

Quote :

"attn: users with posts < 10"

As long as they don't post stupid shit, stfu.

8/22/2007 12:54:01 PM

YES AND WHAT A GREAT POST IT WAS!

a logo and two words! very informative thread, will read again.

8/22/2007 12:56:58 PM

i've got it recording

8/22/2007 10:03:48 PM

Does it make me a bad American to root against them solely to see K rack up a few L's?

Did Paulus make the team? How about McCryerts?

Quote :

"I say keep the thread, it could be used for general discussion throughout the Team USA current summer schedule as well as updates until the summer olympics next year"

Cant do. No stars. Not offical.

[Edited on August 22, 2007 at 10:18 PM. Reason : x]

8/22/2007 10:17:32 PM

he did cut JJ

kept Elton though, but i got no real problems with elton, i only hate the white Dukies

8/22/2007 10:19:08 PM

11 pm tonight on ESPN classic, I guess. Why is this shit so late?

8/22/2007 10:22:46 PM

OH IS IT 11 PM ON ESPN CLASSIC?? THANKS!

8/22/2007 10:24:37 PM

do we get espn classic on campus?

8/22/2007 10:44:55 PM

IF ONLY SOMEONE INVENTED THE INTERNETS SO YOU COULD FIND THE ANSWER

8/22/2007 10:47:40 PM

Didn't Classic used to be channel 66 on TWC? What happen?

8/22/2007 10:51:55 PM

anyone else's broadcast completely fucking up at the moment

8/22/2007 11:01:40 PM

nope

Direct TV FTW!!!

8/22/2007 11:03:49 PM

comcast ftsuq

8/22/2007 11:04:49 PM

I can't believe its so empty there. The USA roster is stacked with stars

8/22/2007 11:06:58 PM

Fuck I was in Vegas all last week, I would of stayed if I knew this was gonna be there

8/22/2007 11:11:03 PM

coach k apparently got kobe bryant excited to play lockdown defense.

8/22/2007 11:15:57 PM

score?

espn.com doesn't even have it up

8/22/2007 11:22:50 PM

16-7 us

8/22/2007 11:24:15 PM

that was the worst 3 point shot attempt by redd

8/22/2007 11:24:41 PM

Reggie Miller's lookin good

8/22/2007 11:26:56 PM

yeah, what a pass from Larry Bird.

8/22/2007 11:28:49 PM

did that guy shoot from out of bounds?


that white guy who is bricking threes needs to stop. I gotta believe that JJ redick could have done just as well


Kobe clowning the entire venezuelan team.

[Edited on August 22, 2007 at 11:38 PM. Reason : sdf]

8/22/2007 11:31:41 PM

Holy shit that was awesome!

8/22/2007 11:42:07 PM

Kobe

[Edited on August 22, 2007 at 11:45 PM. Reason : dude is amazing. best basketball player in the world.]

8/22/2007 11:42:18 PM

why the fuck is this on classic??

8/22/2007 11:47:07 PM

vasquez is going to be good for UMD

Bill walton: you mean you walk into the barbershop and say you want to get a "fade"??

[Edited on August 22, 2007 at 11:56 PM. Reason : 465]

8/22/2007 11:50:09 PM

this is quality television

8/22/2007 11:58:16 PM

^^a bald fade, high top fade....

8/23/2007 12:02:32 AM

2nd half needs to hurry up already

8/23/2007 12:11:48 AM

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"nothing and i mean nothing will ever beat the original "dream team"

agreed...their smallest margin of victory in the olympics was 37 points per game!

however please believe if they went undefeated nowadays they would have a lot more close games

dont sleep on the insane increase in international talent and competition over the last 10-20 years

i mean after those olympics you had foreign teams hiring american coaches to teach them advanced basketball

hence dream team 2's smallest margin of victory in their undefeated run was 27 points

dream team 3's smallest in their undefeated run was 3 points

didnt exactly have cats like dirk and ginobli ballin back in 92 against jordan, bird, magic, etc

8/23/2007 12:23:52 AM

however, the USA has had a lot more of an iso mentality vs. the int'l teams are more about sharing the ball.

Hopefully putting PGs like Kidd and Deron on the team will help. As well as having Coach K and D'Antoni.

8/23/2007 12:27:34 AM

Nothing wrong with isolation if they can't defend it. It's about being flexible and doing what works.




I'm pretty sure Bill Walton is sitting in the booth with the CIA Factbook website on Venezuela up.

8/23/2007 12:35:16 AM

^right, iso can work, but over the last 7 years it hasn't. And it's not as effective over time as good teamwork. Hence the shift back to good teamwork with this years roster.

8/23/2007 12:40:24 AM

imo one of our biggest problems during the last few years of intl basketball (olympics, world games, etc) was that since we have the best athletes in the world, we thought that could compensate for everything...like we'd full court press a bunch of foreign white boys because cats like lebron can just jump in passing lanes...course when they figure out how to beat the press, we get worked with easy layups

also i think another reason why team usa ball has fallen off, at least relative to the rest of the world, is instead of sending THE BEST superstar players we had (ie jordan...bird...magic...isiah...ewing...barkley...etc) we figured our 2nd tier semi-stars would do the trick...its no coincidence to me that in the last olympics, AI and Duncan were our most consitent contributors and the only players who seemed to always hustle and care the most, and they were the only 2 legit superstars on the team

also we had too many slashers and not enough pure shooters...lots of missed open 3's...and the 3-point line is a little different which can make a slight difference

and of course a lot of foreign teams play together all the time and then maybe add a tony parker for olympic time...we throw an allstar team together a month before the games...i'm glad we have a more fulltime program going now even if ratface is coaching it

also if kobe gets in the zone in a game...oh man those foreigners wont know wtf is going on

[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 12:44 AM. Reason : .]

8/23/2007 12:42:51 AM

this is a real route, but does not make me feel good about usa basketball.

this is sloppy as shit.

8/23/2007 12:45:46 AM

^^^Your argument needs to grow up. If you watch the actual game, you'll see that they use many strategies. Some possessions they move the ball, some possessions they look for isolations. They aren't robots who can only think in binary terms.


There is no doubt that the recent teams have not been as organized. However, with the lineup they have, they'd be fools and losers not to push one on one matchups. International teams are not going to be able to stop isolations for Kobe, who was not on previous teams.

[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 12:46 AM. Reason : sdf]

8/23/2007 12:46:21 AM

Quote :

"^^^Your argument needs to grow up. If you watch the actual game, you'll see that they use many strategies"

right... but are you telling me the overall theme of the last 2 or 3 USA teams were not focusing on having superior 1-on-1 talent and trying to exploit that? If so, you're quite wrong. I'm aware that throughout the course of a game that different strategies are used, but those squads were just taking iso guys and trying to form a cohesive unit vs. having guys that can do certain things very well (see: mike miller, tyson chandler) and building a TEAM out of them.

8/23/2007 12:54:51 AM

yeah with the amount of talent we have this should truly be the year we get back on top

the last few years players like kobe would decline to play...now i dont know if they feel some national pride, or national bball pride, but for whatever reason i think we're going all the way in 08

^dont sleep on the fact that pretty much all the international teams play together for years before olympics/world games and the US until this time has not done that...i think that will be big

look at the patriots and pistons, for example...not the most talented teams (well maybe the patriots are this year) but the cohesiveness and teamwork is huge

we just have to really want it and i think we do (at least i hope we do)

[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 12:57 AM. Reason : .]

8/23/2007 12:54:56 AM

Quote :

"^dont sleep on the fact that pretty much all the international teams play together for years before olympics/world games and the US until this time has not done that...i think that will be big "

I agree, that is a big help for other teams. Also, not having Marbury on the team is big (for the best)

8/23/2007 12:58:13 AM

haha at least marbury only marks up his shoes 500% over the actual cost instad of 10,000% like nike, etc lol

8/23/2007 1:00:14 AM