really a viable option? I have a friend who is a vegetarian, and she is almost convincing me to turn to her side. HELP ME!!!!!

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 10:54 AM. Reason : ahhh]

10/18/2007 10:51:31 AM

[yes]

just not for me

10/18/2007 10:52:21 AM

for me?

hell no

10/18/2007 10:53:55 AM

She's so healthy and stuff, and although I'm no lump on a log, when I eat fast food or pork, it makes my stomach feel like it is boiling, and subsequently my anus

10/18/2007 10:55:51 AM

but meat is good

10/18/2007 11:04:31 AM

it's good, but is it good for you?

10/18/2007 11:06:24 AM

fast food and pork ???


There is a such thing as lean meat and even better--high omega 3 meats--some fishes, grass feed meat and my favorite Bison--mmmmmm

10/18/2007 11:08:15 AM

Yes meat is good for you.

Don't start this veg. idiocy and try to use fast food as a basis for "meat is bad."

10/18/2007 11:09:22 AM

from what I've heard, it is very much a viable option *if* you make sure you're getting enough protein.

Disclaimer: I love me some pork. And, for that matter, basically all meats. However I'm also not what you'd call "in good shape".

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 11:10 AM. Reason : If you wanted serious responses Chit Chat was not the best place for this thread...]

10/18/2007 11:09:56 AM

Read an interview with Milo Ventimiglia from the show Heroes where he said something like "you can be a vegetarian and eat pizza everyday." That pretty much sums up my feelings on it. You can have a very healthy diet as a vegetarian, but you're going to have to work a little harder at it than trying to eat healthily as an omnivore. It can be difficult when you're forced to eat out.

10/18/2007 11:11:03 AM

^^I'm not a vegetarian, I am just trying to understand why they do it. Like do they really think meat is all that bad for you? Cause I don't know.

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 11:12 AM. Reason : .]

10/18/2007 11:11:16 AM

if only google worked

10/18/2007 11:14:09 AM

yes! ive been back and forth between vegetarian and vegan for a while now- and the only time it really is hard is when the people around you give you shit or try to get you eating meat

try reading some books on it to get the actual facts- mad cowboy by howard lyman is one i really like in particular

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 11:17 AM. Reason : ..]

10/18/2007 11:16:37 AM

^^Yeah, but this is more fun and arguably diverse

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 11:17 AM. Reason : .]

10/18/2007 11:17:18 AM

^^isn't it hard to go out with friends and get something to eat? Esp. if you eat fast food. But I guess if you are deciding between vegetarianism and veganism, then fast food prob went out the window a while back. Like what if someone invites you over for a meal, and they don't know you are a vegatarian, are you gonna refuse the food? Eat it politely, and suck it up?

10/18/2007 11:19:48 AM

if somebody is having people over and doesnt know, i usually warn them and most times offer to bring something veg-friendly for everyone. also most restaurants have vegetarian dishes (especially if it's an ethnic place) or they can prepare other dishes as vegetarian. there are actually very few places i can think of having to give up entirely since i went vegetarian

plus- its not like there is a "Vegetarian Police" ... i have plenty of friends that dont eat meat most of the time but every few months or so they want hot wings or a steak so they get some

10/18/2007 11:25:21 AM

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"^^I'm not a vegetarian, I am just trying to understand why they do it. Like do they really think meat is all that bad for you? "

You're never going to be able to cover the beliefs of all vegetarians with a blanket statement like that.

10/18/2007 11:26:25 AM

I know some vegetarians who think it licenses them to pig out on little debbie all day and then wash it down with a bag of dorritos. They are too lazy to even attempt to fix themselves something healthy. That kind of attitude pisses me off. They are just trying to go meatless because they think it is trendy or their cool scene friends might include them if they do it.

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 11:36 AM. Reason : jerk]

10/18/2007 11:31:22 AM

^ that shit is worse than eating meat imo. the whole reason i did it is for my health. . . but there are always gonna be the ppl that do it bc of the "image"

10/18/2007 11:33:47 AM

^^ Those are the people who do it for a year, if that, then give up. Obviously if you're just doing it to fit in, you aren't going to do it right.

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 11:34 AM. Reason : ^]

10/18/2007 11:34:00 AM

you know some vegetarianism?????

10/18/2007 11:34:00 AM

I always try to get vegetarians to eat meat. Sometimes I slip it into their food without them noticing, and they eat it, and say it is the best dish they have ever had, and I tell them it is because they are now a meatasaurus.

10/18/2007 11:37:54 AM

How clever.

10/18/2007 11:40:03 AM

pshh, I just want to learn them about the joys of meat

10/18/2007 11:44:27 AM

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"How clever. "

10/18/2007 11:57:11 AM

stfu, eat MEAT, tell your friend to stfu and eat some meat.

10/18/2007 12:52:15 PM

going vegetarian because you can't handle fast food doesn't seem like the right course of action

10/18/2007 1:11:14 PM

i gave up meat for lent one year, and honestly the hardest part was trying to figure out how to eat around having no meat--vegetarian spaghetti gets old real quick. it's such a big part of our diets that it takes some creativity in the beginning

10/18/2007 1:11:55 PM

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10/18/2007 1:21:56 PM

/thread for any vegetarian, etc. shit is just dumb

10/18/2007 1:22:49 PM

I quit smokinig and went veg same year. I still eat seafood here and there but I never try to talk anyone into quitting eating meat (or smoking). It's not difficult and if you google it you'll find tons of stuff.

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"plus- its not like there is a "Vegetarian Police" ... i have plenty of friends that dont eat meat most of the time but every few months or so they want hot wings or a steak so they get some"

This is very true.

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"I always try to get vegetarians to eat meat. Sometimes I slip it into their food without them noticing, and they eat it, and say it is the best dish they have ever had, and I tell them it is because they are now a meatasaurus."

Most vegetarians realize this happens from time to time anyway and don't really care. If you put any real amount in there they would notice.

10/18/2007 2:16:47 PM

Eat deer, turkey, rabbit and chicken. The fast food problem is probably the grease. Lean meats are the way to go.

10/18/2007 2:21:50 PM

what about squirrel? My roommate shot some squirrels in our yard the other day and made squirrel soup for the house? Is that considered lean since all they do all day is jump absurdly from tree to tree and eat nuts

10/18/2007 2:32:51 PM

10/18/2007 2:45:12 PM

just to get it out there: most vegetarians didnt stop eating meat because of fast food- its ignorant to assume fast food is the only problem. plenty of nasty shit gets into all other types of food, meat or otherwise. and lots of vegetarians do it strictly for animal rights. people make that decision for a ton of different reasons

10/18/2007 3:02:28 PM

don't let a friend convince you what to eat and what not to eat. Not all meat is unhealthy. YOU decide what you should eat. The veggie trend is viable for some but humans aren't meant to eat like rabbits.

10/18/2007 4:44:37 PM

hmmm...what animals eat both...bears are too fat...def not a lion...not a tiger....hmmmm...

10/18/2007 4:46:46 PM

^eat both what? meat and veggies? like an omnivore?

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"lots of vegetarians do it strictly for animal rights"

ill-informed people, damn PETA.

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 4:55 PM. Reason : ]

10/18/2007 4:55:02 PM

yeah i'm trying to pick an accurate animal based on eatting habits

i'm pretty even 50/50

10/18/2007 4:57:39 PM

raccoons? pigs? chimpanzees? squirrels?

10/18/2007 5:01:25 PM

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"from what I've heard, it is very much a viable option *if* you make sure you're getting enough protein."

there's a common misconception that it's really difficult to get enough protein on a vegetarian diet. The truth is that most Americans eat WAY more protein than you really need if you're not a bodybuilder. Beans, whole grains, dark green vegetables, peanuts, and most fruits are all good plant sources of protein. Not to mention eggs and dairy for the non-vegans.

I don't know why people hate on vegetarians so much. So someone doesn't want to eat meat. How is that your problem?

10/18/2007 5:03:20 PM

hmmm out of all of those i'm most like a chimp

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"I always try to get vegetarians to eat meat. Sometimes I slip it into their food without them noticing, and they eat it, and say it is the best dish they have ever had, and I tell them it is because they are now a meatasaurus. "

haha

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 5:04 PM. Reason : made me lol]

10/18/2007 5:03:56 PM

lot of veggies get fat from eatin cheese and pasta all the time....

10/18/2007 5:04:04 PM

I'm a vagitarian!

10/18/2007 5:05:42 PM

^lol

10/18/2007 5:06:03 PM

I saw an episode of Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmerman (travel channel) where he was touring the south, and he ate squirrel, raccoon, and (o?)possum...oh yeah, and nutria, which according to an episode of seinfeld, is a kind of rat. it was gross.

10/18/2007 5:22:56 PM

^ Is your point that all meat is gross? or just small wild animals?

10/18/2007 5:32:35 PM

My cousin weighs upwards of 350lbs and is a veggie. She just had a aby too which is a real shame, I feel bad for it healthwise..

10/18/2007 5:41:59 PM

no that wasn't my point... i guess i didn't really have one!

10/18/2007 5:44:03 PM

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"squirrel, raccoon, and (o?)possum...oh yeah, and nutria"

Squirrel is a omnivore rodent. Eats nuts among other things. Could taste good.
Raccoon is a omnivore mammal. Eats anything. Probably tastes bad.
Opossum is a omnivore marsupial. Eats anything. Dunno about taste but "Opossum oil (Possum grease) is high in essential fatty acids and has been used as a chest rub and a carrier for arthritis remedies given as topical salves."
Nutria is a rodent. Herbivorous. Might taste good.

10/18/2007 5:44:26 PM