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se7entythree
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in the ciiittttyyyyyy

the city of compton

keep it rockin, keep it rockin


i've been to compton, but not the residential areas. we went to the arborist supply store which is kinda near the big boeing building.

10/23/2007 1:27:43 PM

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I hope to make it to Century City before next summer - I'm just trying to make the trip free. I haven't been to the West Coast yet.

10/23/2007 1:28:54 PM

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"By looking at the maps, the fires are further from the heart of the city than they were last time around"


i guess the fires are further from downtown san diego than before -- mainly because they're to the north (witch fire) and south (harris fire) whereas the cedar fire was in line with central SD

but what seems crazier this time is how far west the witch fire has already come -- evacuations in del mar and solana beach -- it might burn all the way to the ocean (and things are certainly much more populated the further west it goes), if it ever jumps the 5, holy shit

also, things escalated so quickly this time -- there's still santa anas expected until late tomorrow at the earliest

just got another email from marye anne -- ucsd is closed tomorrow too

10/23/2007 1:33:21 PM

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"The one in Malibu started by falling powerlines cause of the santa ana's.....one of the fires I believe near Arrowhead was arson. It started at 3 different points and they're looking for the morons who set it.
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Just making a small point...just cause a fire appeared to be started in different places doesn't mean it was an intentional set.
With winds like the Santa Anas it could easily have been multiple spots from the original fire.
In southeast georgia this summer the fire spotted as far as 3/4 mile. With intense fire you can watch burning sticks and leaves being picked up and thrown by the convection column. One of our air tanker pilots said he's seen flaming 12 inch logs 500 feet off the ground when he passed through a smoke column while making water drops. Add in adverse wind profiles and you can get spotting 90° from the direction of the wind.

I'm not saying it wasn't arson, I'm just saying people sometimes misinterpret info, even in the firefighting community. We had all sorts of reports about people setting new fires in Robeson County. When I got there it looked like the real reason is we weren't mopping up well and the old fires kept reburning and spotting over our lines.

Now, if all the new starts were right next to the road or easily accessible ares then it's pretty suspicious...

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"but what seems crazier this time is how far west the witch fire has already come -- evacuations in del mar and solana beach -- it might burn all the way to the ocean (and things are certainly much more populated the further west it goes), if it ever jumps the 5, holy shit"

I've heard many horror stories about the Florida fires in 1998. There were two fires running along side each other that didn't stop until they hit the Atlantic.
My boss said they tried to make a stand at I-95. He was watching the fire coming towards I-95 and turned around only to see small smoke columns coming off of houses on the other side

[Edited on October 23, 2007 at 3:13 PM. Reason : ]

10/23/2007 3:09:13 PM

Smath74
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my little sister lives in San Diego and I can't reach her. I'm sure she is ok, I'm just a little worried.

10/23/2007 3:15:28 PM

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^^I'm not making assumptions, that's what the authorities said. They were quick in making the claim that it was arson which leads me to believe it was an obvious arson and I believe the fact that it started in 3 seperate areas (all intentional) just cements the claim. I've lived here all my life and have dealt with plenty of fires and santa ana winds to know what I'm talking about.




gunzz....I remember

10/23/2007 4:16:59 PM

drunknloaded
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so how exactly did the fire start?

10/23/2007 4:19:19 PM

mytwocents
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more than one fire.....some caused by downed power lines, some arson...but the majority of them are because there are the santa ana's which are hot, dry, winds and they blow embers which start new fires.

10/23/2007 4:34:28 PM

gunzz
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i'd like to light your fire

10/23/2007 4:36:18 PM

NyM410
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"I've lived here all my life and have dealt with plenty of fires and santa ana winds to know what I'm talking about."


Lies. You lived in AZ if I remember correctly.

** I'm talking to my sister and she said there are fires 30 miles to the N,S, and W.. she ate lunch on the top of the building where she works and it's smoke in every direction.

10/23/2007 4:38:35 PM

jwb9984
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there have been fires burning out of control in idaho/montana all summer long...

they got no love

10/23/2007 4:52:11 PM

mytwocents
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^^true...but a family member has lived here all my life so I never really considered myself not a resident


your sis works in Universal city right? off Lankershim?

10/23/2007 5:01:33 PM

NyM410
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Where ever the Hallmark Channel is... she works for them. I thought she said near Universal City...

10/23/2007 5:03:25 PM

mytwocents
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are you serious? Hah...I live right there! I pass it every day 10 times a day Right across from Jerry's Deli...I'm gonna go to coffee bean here in a sec and will pass it once again

10/23/2007 5:07:49 PM

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yeah, i too am having a very hard time feeling bad about california being cleansed by fire

10/23/2007 5:08:28 PM

nothing22
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it's ventured into over-coverage now

we get it- everything is on fire

all that's left is for the chargers to harness that "disaster 12th man" and win the fucking super bowl

P RIV FOR LIFE

[Edited on October 23, 2007 at 5:11 PM. Reason : Ø]

10/23/2007 5:10:29 PM

mytwocents
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well it's not 'BREAKING NEWS' on your LOCAL channels is it?

10/23/2007 5:11:22 PM

amac884
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i just got back from jerry's deli...a bit crowded at the moment

10/23/2007 5:12:15 PM

nothing22
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it's the lead on everything here

i get updates about it all the time on the tickers

cnn.com has nothing but links to it

fox news has become fire HQ

etc

10/23/2007 5:12:36 PM

mytwocents
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Oh...well I mean the 'lead' story I can kinda understand...but only kinda. I'm really surprised this shit is that important to anyone else other than us in SoCal

^^what did you have? did you get a black & white?

[Edited on October 23, 2007 at 5:14 PM. Reason : ]

10/23/2007 5:14:02 PM

NyM410
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This must be the office she works in?

12700 Ventura Boulevard

Studio City, CA 91604-2469

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I should tell her to suggest a change in color at http://www.hallmarkchannel.com. I would NEVER spend more than 20 seconds there. That yellow literally hurts my eyes.

[Edited on October 23, 2007 at 5:14 PM. Reason : x]

10/23/2007 5:14:31 PM

nothing22
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^^yeah same here

it sucks, sure

it's also on the front page of the paper here

the local weathermen go out of the way to show the wind patterns

10/23/2007 5:16:22 PM

amac884
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^^^

matzoh ball soup

10/23/2007 5:17:08 PM

mytwocents
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^^^yup...so not Universal City, but closeish. That yellow is horrible...and I've never watched the Hallmark channel but they always have bilboards up right in front of their office of upcoming shows and they usually star people like Valerie Bertanelli or Jennifer Love Hewitt

^^well it must be a slow news day everywhere....seriously..do they think anyone cares about the wind patterns?


^i could use some soup...had dental work done today

[Edited on October 23, 2007 at 5:19 PM. Reason : ]

10/23/2007 5:18:17 PM

roberta
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ucsd campus closed for the week

10/23/2007 6:04:01 PM

lafta
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this is gonna be bigger than the "great fire of chicago" or whatever they called it

10/23/2007 6:46:39 PM

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"If I lived there I'd have a sprinkler system, no bushes, brick or concrete walls, and a tin roof."


A tin roof? Your house would be hot as hell in the summer.

10/23/2007 7:48:54 PM

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"A tin roof? Your house would be hot as hell in the summer.
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There's a thing called insulation.

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"there have been fires burning out of control in idaho/montana all summer long...

they got no love "

Cause not many people live in those areas.
The CA fires happened in a media rich environment.

Remember the half million acres that burned in southeast Georgia/northeast Florida in April & May?
Oh wait, that never made the big news either.

10/24/2007 9:15:12 AM

ThePeter
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Philip Rivers was evacuated.

10/24/2007 9:16:46 AM

Fumbler
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Praise the Lord!

10/24/2007 9:20:55 AM

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From a coworker who is working in San Diego office right now

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"I am happy to report that my family and are safe and out of harm's way. We - my wife, two kids, my mother and the dog - are currently staying with a friend just outside LA. We arrived yesterday evening after a long and eventful day. I expect to stay here until things settle down in San Diego. My understanding from watching the news is that it'll be another day before the Santa Ana winds settle down - the primary factor in driving the fires. From what is being reported, the fires in San Diego are still not under control.
I am optimistic that we'll return to our house. Our neighborhood - Rancho Bernardo and in particular the 4S Ranch area - was affected by the fires and a mandatory evacuation was issued. Early yesterday morning the fire jumped I-15 around Lake Hodges area, just northeast of our home. There is a mountain between our neighborhood and Lake Hodges - the mountain is uninhabited. The fire came over the moutain toward our neighborhood. At 7 AM when we left, we could not see the flames but the area was thick with smoke and ash making it difficult to breath. The Rancho Bernardo area became the primary focus for the fire fighters. The mountain burned down. Fortunately, the fire did not cross the street and all the homes in our neighborhood are intact. There were a number of homes in the northern part of the 4S area that were not as lucky and were consumed by the fire. I believe there were a good number of homes in Rancho Bernardo that were also destroyed. The news is reporting a total of 600 homes but I believe this is the combined San Diego count.
We made our way to a friend's house in Solana Beach - west of I-5, considered a safe place. Normally, this is a 30 minute trip. It took us over 4 hours. The area was covered in a layer of smoke. This brings to light the incredibly dynamic nature of the San Diego fires. On Sunday night there were two small fires approximately 40 miles away. By the morning, the number of fires increased to about 6 and right in our neighborhood.
We are trying to keep an eye on the developing issues by watching the news. I'm hoping that an announcement will be made stating it is safe to return home. I'll keep you posted on our situation. "


Really brings it home. There are a couple people I haven't heard from since monday

10/24/2007 9:43:59 AM

se7entythree
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a "tin roof"

as in a standing seem metal roof

very common, pretty nice looking too. if/when i build a house it'll have one

this one isn't a great example but i'm tired of looking

10/24/2007 9:54:05 AM

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"** I'm talking to my sister and she said there are fires 30 miles to the N,S, and W.. she ate lunch on the top of the building where she works and it's smoke in every direction."


damn, getting cornered

i seem to remember some apocalyptic stuff that mentioned california burning up

10/24/2007 10:57:43 AM

roberta
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got some power issues arising in addition to the fires themselves

several transmission lines are down, and the major ones coming down from san onofre are threatened by the fire at camp pendleton -- sdg&e sounds very concerned

10/24/2007 10:59:46 AM

lafta
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^^what? im not sure you can say this is apocalyptic, it just moves so slow. thats probably why people dont take it as seriously as they should,

but either way it just proves my point, dont buy a house in california.

[Edited on October 24, 2007 at 8:05 PM. Reason : .]

10/24/2007 8:04:38 PM

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"it just moves so slow"


whats your definition of "slow"

10/24/2007 8:30:56 PM

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