Confusion colors primaries for Democrats in Florida, Michigan

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"CONCORD, N.H. -- The Democratic Party isn't having much luck making sense of its presidential calendar. The result is continuing confusion for candidates, voters and states, as the day that the first nominating ballots are cast draws closer. But precisely what that date is remains unanswered. The latest installment of this political soap opera came this past week as the Democratic National Committee officially stripped Florida of its convention delegates as a penalty for the state party's decision to hold its primary on Jan. 29. Florida Democrats shot back with a suit claiming the DNC's move was unconstitutional. A similar confrontation looms in Michigan, which has bumped its primary up even earlier, to Jan. 15. New Hampshire, meanwhile, continues to hold the political world in temporal suspense, creating further potential for disruption and defiance."

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"Everyone's ticked off The actions of the candidates and the DNC have angered some prominent Democrats in both Florida and Michigan. While some dismiss the dispute as short-term, others warn that it could have more enduring consequences in terms of fundraising and voter enthusiasm."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07280/823514-176.stm

Squabble over Florida presidential primary may haunt Democrats

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"TALLAHASSEE - The battle raging between Florida Democrats and their national leaders over the state's primary date is already costing the party money and grassroots support — but now some worry it will cost votes that could be crucial if the 2008 presidential contest is a squeaker. 'It's reinforcing the image of the gang that can't shoot straight,' said state Senate Democratic Leader Steve Geller of Cooper City [emphasis added]. And there is no end in sight."

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"Political analysts predict Florida will be a pivotal state in the 2008 presidential election, and Democrats may need all the votes they can get to win the state's 27 electoral votes. 'We may see 2000 all over again,' said Richard Scher, a political science professor at the University of Florida. 'I don't know if it will come down to 537 votes ... but if we were to have the vote today, regardless of nominees, it would be very hard to make the call in Florida on who would win.' The ongoing controversy, he said, could have a chilling effect in November 2008 if Democrats remember their January primary vote did not count."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/elections/sfl-flfdems0927nbsep28,0,5596143.story

I understand party discipline and that sort of thing, but I think the Democratic presidential candidates are taking a huge risk. If they screw up Florida and elsewhere, they won't be able to blame it on Bush this time.

10/24/2007 2:02:11 AM

I think the primary trouble should be not having a moderate candidate who would appeal to all americans. We have a socialist wife of a former president, an african american (not that i am racist but i do not think this country is not ready for black president), and a ambulence chaser

10/24/2007 9:56:26 AM

^Obama has more of a platform than "I'm black"... that's just all anyone in the media reports on. He actually is their moderate candidate that appeals to a range of people... it's just that no one really knows his platform on anything because his blackness always steals the attention.

10/24/2007 10:08:36 AM

while the democratic leadership is fucking retarded, the primary system is just as bad.

10/24/2007 10:17:26 AM

Obama is too black for a lot of white people to vote for...and he's not black enough for lots of black people to vote for

10/24/2007 10:18:06 AM

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"He actually is their moderate candidate that appeals to a range of people"

I know; ironically his platform is the democratic platform i agree with the most. I just do not think a lot of people in this country are ready to make that step yet though.

^ I'll agree with TreeTwista10 on this rare occasion

10/24/2007 10:52:23 AM

on this rare occasion you're using non biased common sense like i always do

10/24/2007 11:03:36 AM

Common sense is the last thing anyone will ever accuse you of having.

10/24/2007 11:24:06 AM

kind of like you and hair

10/24/2007 11:25:29 AM

I win.

10/24/2007 11:25:58 AM

you win at having most aliases

10/24/2007 11:26:57 AM

That too!

10/24/2007 11:31:49 AM

seriously though i think the primary trouble with democrats is their 3 shitty potential candidates

10/24/2007 11:41:13 AM

who cares?

10/24/2007 11:46:37 AM

this isnt the "I Don't Care Anymore" thread

holy shit you are bad at posting irrelevant shit in the wrong threads

10/24/2007 11:53:58 AM

so who is gonna be the republican nominee...seems like no one can pick a winner

10/24/2007 12:07:49 PM

Ron Paul 08'

10/24/2007 12:33:14 PM

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Let me get this straight, you're bitching about candidates being not moderate enough when you are promoting Ron Paul?

10/24/2007 3:49:04 PM

explain how ron paul isn't moderate?

he's pro civil rights and anti big govt

he's also pro market and anti war

10/24/2007 4:40:51 PM

b.c he does not fit into the "mainstream" which is a fight btw the neo-con nazis and the money-sucking socialist utopia liberals

10/24/2007 4:43:22 PM

Anyone who advocates the abolishment of UNICEF tends not to be viewed as a moderate.

10/24/2007 6:03:18 PM

oh man, I can't wait for a court, any court, to hear the "unConstitutional" argument on this one. The Constitution says NOTHING about party politics, nor does it say anything about primaries. All it says it that the citizens of the states have a say in the presidential election via choice of electors in the electoral college. The primaries have nothing to do w/ the EC, so the citizens of the state are not being deprived of that right; thus, end of story.

If anyone tried to claim that their ability to vote for democrat candidate B in this, the judge would be entirely within the law to say "well, take that up with your party. hell, the party politics itself is more of a problem than your complaint, and it doesn't even hold water in a courtroom. write in your vote and shut the hell up."

10/24/2007 7:27:03 PM