Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
Inflation, Shitty Economy, Devalued Dollar, High Gas, Illegal Immigrants running amok, housing market going apeshit, drought, the prospect of a socialist whore getting elected, the dumbing down of the populace, terrorism, politicians not looking out for what the people want......and so on and so forth. I suppose every generation thought that things were shitty and eventually stuff balances out, and history moves in cycles...but i hope thats the case. i swear to god i hate this fucking country soooo much. and its only because i love it soooo much that i could hate it soo much. i hate what its become. like a father whose child does wrong, you hate it so much because you know he should know better and you are disappointed. 11/8/2007 11:32:43 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
[blog] 11/8/2007 11:33:39 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Are you drunk or just stupid? 11/8/2007 11:33:44 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
little of both 11/8/2007 11:37:13 PM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty pessimistic about the future of this country within the next 5 or so years. There's no question that the American Empire is going under and that soon we'll no longer be the biggest player on the world stage, but I get this sinking feeling that things are going to get a whole lot worse, with no end in immediate sight. The ship is sinking, and we're all going to drown with it. 11/9/2007 12:46:17 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
we didn't start the fire it was always burning while the world was turning 11/9/2007 1:06:09 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
^^damn, that is a rough outlook, unfortunately that seems pretty accurate we'd need a miracle in so many places to come out of the problems we are currently facing our biggest problems currently include domestic economy, trade, oil prices, and weak dollar
the one thing that puzzles me is that it seems the rest of the world is about to experience growth for a long time, in places like china, india, europe, and africa but this will come at the expense of the US in many factors, and if we want to be a part of this world growth our economy and our way of life will have to go through a MAJOR adjustment, and in order to do that we would probaly have to first go through a depression like event which transforms our society from head to toe and it seems that all the factors are slowly aligning to allow this to occur
[Edited on November 9, 2007 at 1:06 AM. Reason : ^] 11/9/2007 1:06:19 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the one thing that puzzles me is that it seems the rest of the world is about to experience growth for a long time, in places like china, india, europe, and africa" |
all these places have their own problems, not to mention, most of them are inextricably linked to economy of the US11/9/2007 1:30:11 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this thread makes the Baby Jesus cry" |
11/9/2007 3:12:49 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
ron
paul 11/9/2007 4:22:11 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^ he makes Baby Jesus giggle.
... and spit up.
[Edited on November 9, 2007 at 5:05 AM. Reason : ] 11/9/2007 5:04:53 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
I'm starting to think that his radical philosophy of following the Constitution is the only thing that will restore any integrity to government. If he doesn't win the Republican nomination he has a real shot as an independent candidate. He's already raising a good deal of money and has a legit following. 11/9/2007 6:15:01 AM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha
an independent candidate. GOOD ONE! 11/9/2007 6:49:50 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Inflation, Shitty Economy, Devalued Dollar, High Gas, Illegal Immigrants running amok, housing market going apeshit, drought, the prospect of a socialist whore getting elected, the dumbing down of the populace, terrorism, politicians not looking out for what the people want......and so on and so forth. I suppose every generation thought that things were shitty and eventually stuff balances out, and history moves in cycles...but i hope thats the case. i swear to god i hate this fucking country soooo much. and its only because i love it soooo much that i could hate it soo much. i hate what its become. like a father whose child does wrong, you hate it so much because you know he should know better and you are disappointed." |
Translation: "Fuckin' spics, A-rabs, poor people, and COMMUNISTS are FUCKING EVERYTHING UP "11/9/2007 7:24:55 AM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
^don't forget skanks
Fuckin' skanks! 11/9/2007 7:28:08 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Dude, we're fucked. Just think about it: ... MEXICANS. 11/9/2007 7:31:44 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Don't forget the naggers.
11/9/2007 7:31:53 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
I think the root of most of our problems is simply irresponsibility. It is spreading like wildfire and the govt is quick to pick up the slack.
People just arent responsible for thier own actions anymore. Everyone who continues to make bad decisions expects others to pay for them. And those in govt are happy to promise just that. And people continue to support ideas like that. Its beyond me. 11/9/2007 8:09:29 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's the wealth distribution. All of the rich fucks earn money off of the hard work and sweat of the lower class and then think they deserve millions upon millions of dollars while claiming the lower class are a bunch of lazy undeserving pricks.
Actually I don't think it's the problem, but I think eyedrb is a dick. 11/9/2007 8:19:01 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, things look pretty bad. So, will the next great depression be limited to the US, or will it spread across the globe? 11/9/2007 10:01:12 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "our biggest problems currently include domestic economy, trade, oil prices, and weak dollar" |
Yes, that booming economy (3.9%), falling trade deficit (-15%), historically not that high oil prices (inflation adjusted it is still only a fraction higher than it was in 1981), and historically not that weak dollar (it was far weaker in 1980), all combine to convince you the end is nieh?11/9/2007 10:17:28 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "historically not that high oil prices (inflation adjusted it is still only a fraction higher than it was in 1981)" |
ok, so they're only a "fraction higher" than the highest they've every been..... i think that would qualify as "historically high"11/9/2007 10:22:49 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "All of the rich fucks earn money off of the hard work and sweat of the lower class and then think they deserve millions upon millions of dollars while claiming the lower class are a bunch of lazy undeserving pricks." |
I'm pretty sure the "lazy undeserving pricks" of the lower class are the ones who are NOT working and sweating to make the rich fucks money...but whatever helps you appeal to peoples' emotions..11/9/2007 10:26:00 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes, that booming economy (3.9%), falling trade deficit (-15%), historically not that high oil prices (inflation adjusted it is still only a fraction higher than it was in 1981), and historically not that weak dollar (it was far weaker in 1980), all combine to convince you the end is nieh?" |
If my raise equates to 0.00% this year like it did last year then all of that doesn't mean that much to me.
Why must I always find jobs for places that never give anyone raises?11/9/2007 10:32:46 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Yes, that booming economy (3.9%), falling trade deficit (-15%), historically not that high oil prices (inflation adjusted it is still only a fraction higher than it was in 1981), and historically not that weak dollar (it was far weaker in 1980), all combine to convince you the end is nieh?"" |
booming economy? is that why bernake warned that our economy would be very slow for a while? over a trillion dollars spent in iraq, and money supply increased to cover that. heavy inflation just around the corner, investors worried about the stock market for the comming year. Housing bubble burst.
oh yeah, economy is in great shape. 11/9/2007 10:45:19 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
^is it bad for you personally? are you not able to find work and pay your bills? or does spending $texas in iraq and projecting inflation automatically mean the economy is bad] 11/9/2007 10:48:52 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
I can only respond with what I know. Today the economy is booming; historically economic booms do not last forever; hence I can also conclude like Bernanke that the current economic boom will subside in the future. But slower than current growth is not a recession; growth must become negative for that to happen.
Secondly, the Fed. Res. did not increase the money supply to pay for iraq, the American people bought treasury bonds to pay for iraq. Check your sources, they are mistaken.
And I see no reason to believe inflation is "just around the corner" since falling inflation is the current trend (less than 1% on an annual basis right now).
Finally, this is not the first housing bubble birst, the 1980s experienced no less than three, each one resulting in hundreds of bank failures. Compared to the S&L catastrophy of the 1980s, today's credit crunch is mundane. 11/9/2007 10:54:43 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASDHF;ASJKF;LZXKCVJIOPWEJJKZB;CVKLNB;ZKLB;ALDKFJG ASDF;ASDJKV;ZLXKCJV DFJSDADFJAHAHAHAHAH @ this thread 11/9/2007 11:23:05 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
the middle classes are the ones getting fucked. The aristocracy is able to use loopholes in the system, george W corporate welfare, and their capital assets to continue making money. The poor and trash of our society through the general "do-gooder" attitude of the liberals and conservatives (who try to make it look like they care also) get free handouts; basically subsidy for being ignorant and stupid. The middle class thus foots the bill and provides the innovation to keep the ball rolling for everyone. 11/9/2007 11:55:52 AM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
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GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, poor folk have it so good. 11/9/2007 12:10:31 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
^^^LOL
Keep beating the drums for class warfare. Don't let the facts (the middle class pays a lower rate in taxes now than any time in the last 30 years) get in the way of your argument.
[Edited on November 9, 2007 at 12:14 PM. Reason : 2] 11/9/2007 12:14:24 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
^^ they do. if you are single lower class mother you get a raise for pumping out new babies. why get a job when the gov't will give you your EBT card and welfare money to sit around eating pork rinds all day watching ricky lake 11/9/2007 12:26:01 PM |
rainman Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
When I was a cashier everyone would use their EBT cards to buy ribeye steaks and junk food. 11/9/2007 12:28:06 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Doesn't sound so awesome to me. 11/9/2007 12:28:18 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
No, we are not "fucked"--in the sense that you mean it. 11/9/2007 12:29:23 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Keep beating the drums for class warfare" |
you are right; like any rational person i support political actions that best benefit me. current "status quo" does not benefit myself as much as i'd prefer. If i could have my way every american would pay a HUR tax of 1% off their paycheck and thus make me rich quick.11/9/2007 1:50:38 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Its funny that monkey jumps right into class warfare when I discuss responsiblity. LOL
Its also funny that those rich fucks fund this entire country, including the lazy who choose not to work.
Im curious why you think Im a dick skankin 11/9/2007 8:55:03 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
Our country has its problems for sure, but our standard of living is pretty damn good. Our country, just like everything in life, is as good or bad as you see it. We certainly have our problems, and they should be addressed, but we should also acknowledge the good things about American life. We always can and should improve, but we should still recognize that the sky is not falling. 11/9/2007 9:13:22 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its also funny that those rich fucks fund this entire country, including the lazy who choose not to work." |
11/9/2007 9:21:16 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^ LOL. I love it when faced with facts that you dont want to accept, you simply dismiss the idea entirely.
"New data released by the IRS today offers interesting insights into the distributional spread of the federal income tax burden, new analysis by the Tax Foundation shows. The new data shows that the top-earning 25% of taxpayers (AGI over $62,068) earned 67.5% of the nation's income, but they paid more than four out of every five dollars collected by the federal income tax (86%). The top 1% of taxpayers (AGI over $364,657) earned approximately 21.2% of the nation's income (as defined by AGI), yet paid 39.4% of all federal income taxes. That means the top 1% of tax returns paid about the same amount of federal individual income taxes as the bottom 95% of tax returns." 11/10/2007 8:48:09 AM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
sup rome, lol 11/10/2007 5:16:36 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
if you want to call Hillary a socialist, that's fine. But under what circumstances do you think it's ok to call her a whore? Or is that just how you refer to any woman in power? 11/10/2007 5:27:23 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
i wouldn't call her a whore
i'd call her a huge cunt, though.
it's all in her attitude. 11/10/2007 5:43:23 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
i can see that. cunt, bitch - that's all about attitude. but whore, hoe, slut and the like are clearly sexual references, which I think there are none to speak of for (hillary) Clinton. 11/10/2007 11:07:02 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Inflation, Shitty Economy," |
where are you living again?
a stronger bigger middle class benefits everyone
[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 2:17 PM. Reason : s]11/16/2007 2:14:51 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That means the top 1% of tax returns paid about the same amount of federal individual income taxes as the bottom 95% of tax returns." |
That's not the only tax, you know. That aside, it's not surprising those who benefit the most from the system would put a lot into it.11/16/2007 2:19:26 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""New data released by the IRS today offers interesting insights into the distributional spread of the federal income tax burden, new analysis by the Tax Foundation shows. The new data shows that the top-earning 25% of taxpayers (AGI over $62,068) earned 67.5% of the nation's income, but they paid more than four out of every five dollars collected by the federal income tax (86%). The top 1% of taxpayers (AGI over $364,657) earned approximately 21.2% of the nation's income (as defined by AGI), yet paid 39.4% of all federal income taxes. That means the top 1% of tax returns paid about the same amount of federal individual income taxes as the bottom 95% of tax returns."
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How is this interesting or relevant? isn't this how our progressive taxation system is suppose to work?11/16/2007 2:21:12 PM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
once mexico and the us become one country, it'll all get better
you'll see 11/16/2007 3:15:21 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
the Northo = the euro of North America, it'll happen. 11/16/2007 3:19:42 PM |