Discuss.

my money is on Bloomberg

11/28/2007 2:54:05 PM

republican or democrat or both?

^ won't happen if romney or guilliani are the nominee... two northeastern people on the ticket won't work for the republicans

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 2:55 PM. Reason : ^]

11/28/2007 2:54:33 PM

I say Edwards runs VP for dems

Maybe Huckabee for Repubs

11/28/2007 2:55:22 PM

I think Edwards has a decent chance of being on the VP ticket again.

11/28/2007 2:55:50 PM

i can guarantee that edwards will not take a VP slot

11/28/2007 2:56:08 PM

how?

11/28/2007 2:56:32 PM

i have a few good friends on the campaign (of whats left of it) and they're convinced that he won't take VP slot again

11/28/2007 2:59:50 PM

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"Maybe Huckabee for Repubs"

That's not a bad prediction. He'd soften the northeastern edge that Rudy or Romney would bring to the ticket.


I don't see two New York politicians running together as a good ticket, so I don't see a Clinton - Bloomberg or a Giuliani - Bloomberg ticket

11/28/2007 3:01:50 PM

and he's not go chance of being on a Romney ticket (one cause its two from the northeast, and second cause i dont think that romney is ready for a bloomberg VP)

only one that he might be on is a mccain ticket, but i dont see that either

11/28/2007 3:03:10 PM

Bloomberg is a RINO anyway (Republican In Name Only).


I think Hillary will pick someone pretty obscure as her running mate. I can't see her ego / personality fitting well with a strong VP and she's going to have enough of a time running with her background, so she won't bring anyone else with a potential for baggage either.

11/28/2007 3:06:49 PM

The one Republican name I've heard that makes sense is Haley Barbour, Mississippi governor. Giuliani and Romney are both northerners, so would want a southerner to shore up the ticket. And he's one of the few public figures that has a good reputation after Hurricane Katrina.

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"Bloomberg is a RINO anyway (Republican In Name Only)."

He's officially an independent. He dropped the "R" about six months ago. And besides, in this day and age there will never be a Republican that is not a RINO that will be elected mayor of New York City (and that is true for Giuliani too).

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 3:15 PM. Reason : .]

11/28/2007 3:13:21 PM

^ I forgot about that, but his being an independent makes him that much less likely to run as a Republican. I don't disagree at all about the NY mayor needing to be a RINO.

Haley Barbour . . . maybe, but I wonder what they could dig up on him when he was running the Republican Party? He brings a lot of the same qualities that Huckabee would bring to the ticket.

11/28/2007 3:22:20 PM

Obama/Bloomberg....I'd vote for it

11/28/2007 5:28:23 PM

haha, that would be the most awkward white house

11/28/2007 5:45:12 PM

yes..but it make for a great sitcom.

11/28/2007 5:47:06 PM

i'd like to see biden at least on the dem ticket. but he might be better served as sec. of defense or sec. of state

11/28/2007 6:03:20 PM

i would love to see him as VP

11/28/2007 6:10:19 PM

I've just about had enough of VP's.

the fact that anyone gives a damn who the VP is -- combined with the current VP's record of both increasing the Executive power of the office while reducing his accountability -- is disturbing.

the VP should have no role but to assume power if #1 is incapacitated.

11/28/2007 6:42:30 PM

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"i'd like to see biden at least on the dem ticket. but he might be better served as sec. of defense or sec. of state "

He's personally my favorite Democrat of those running.

11/28/2007 10:23:12 PM

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"Obama/Bloomberg"

So the guy with real executive experience plays second fiddle to the less than one term senator? Not to mention that you've got a Midwestern liberal paired with a New York liberal, who does that appeal to outside of hard core leftist enclaves?

No, that'd be an epic disaster.

11/28/2007 10:38:36 PM

oh yeah. the "Nigger-Jew 2008" ticket.

that'll pull in the South.

11/29/2007 12:44:39 AM

yeah. not a snowball's chance in hell.

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"the VP should have no role but to assume power if #1 is incapacitated."

I disagree, both legally and practically. I think you're just being influenced by your frustration with Cheney.

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"Maybe Huckabee for Repubs"

That wouldn't surprise me.


I could even see Richardson for the Dems.

11/29/2007 2:03:04 AM

Anyone think McCain has a shot at the VP if he doesn't win the primary (which he likely won't)? If he goes back to his more moderate stances he'd be able to have quite a bit of appeal to moderate and undecided voters.

11/29/2007 2:12:59 AM

^Yeah even though I disagree with some of huckabee's key stances, it's hard not to like the guy. I have to admit it wouldn't be the end of the world if it was Giuliani+Huckabee in the white house next year.

11/29/2007 2:13:01 AM

I agree that for the Democrats, Richardson would be a good, strategic choice. Just have him go around, giving speeches in Spanish to rile up the Hispanic populations in the border states.

As for Bloomberg, I don't see him being VP to anyone. It's more likely that he'd run independent for the main office himself than be number 2 to either party's candidate. He's got the money to do it.

11/29/2007 10:25:13 AM

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"the VP should have no role but to assume power if #1 is incapacitated."

i guess you forgot about the whole "president of the senate" bit

11/29/2007 10:50:14 AM

this thread is home to a whole lot of stupid.

first of all two individuals from the same state cannot be on the same ticket for president and vice president, it is unconstitutional.

Secondly, there is no way that Edwards will be a VP nominee.

Finally, you guys are just plain stupid.

Bloomberg, are you fucking serious?

11/29/2007 10:58:45 AM

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" first of all two individuals from the same state cannot be on the same ticket for president and vice president, it is unconstitutional."

really? i've never heard that before.

11/29/2007 11:05:52 AM

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"The Twelfth Amendment does not directly preclude the election of a President and Vice President from the same state, as is often alleged. Nevertheless, running mates conventionally come from different states to prevent situations wherein electors of the state in question are forced to vote for a candidate from a different party or state merely on the grounds of residency."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Yes i know its Wikipedia...but still

11/29/2007 11:10:55 AM

why do you think cheney changed his official residency back to Wyoming from Texas.

^The Wikipedia is wrong. The 12th amendment strictly prohibits the electors (electoral college) from casting a ballot that is for two people from the same state as the elector.

Meaning, if I were an elector from North Carolina, it would be unconstitutional for me to vote John Edwards as president and Mike Easley as VP. Now, I could not Edwards as President or Easley as Vice PResident, but not both.

[Edited on November 29, 2007 at 11:13 AM. Reason : .]

11/29/2007 11:11:12 AM

right, but it does not preclude the VP and President being from the same state. it only affects people who are from the state that both of them are from.

so its not recommended, but its not unconstitutional.

11/29/2007 11:16:12 AM

a simple interpretation will show that it is unconstitutional.

11/29/2007 11:53:18 AM

wtf - i guess if you define "simple" as "incorrect"

what kind of person needs simplification on something as basic as this:

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"The 12th amendment strictly prohibits the electors (electoral college) from casting a ballot that is for two people from the same state as the elector."

Hell, even Deal or No Deal rules are more complicated than that one

[Edited on November 29, 2007 at 12:52 PM. Reason : s]

11/29/2007 12:51:18 PM

^ Exactly

Language of the 12th Amendment says:

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"The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves"

I read that to mean: themselves = electors

which means that if a Clinton Clinton ticket were to come up, then New York electors could not vote for them (she'd loose the state) but electors from Virginia, California, Texas, etc could vote for the ticket

11/29/2007 1:21:44 PM

Richardson would make a good VP for the Dems

I wonder if Ron Paul would get/recieve a VP nomination, might be a way of securing the nutcase libertarian crowd.

11/29/2007 1:22:48 PM

If someone like Giuliani wins, they'll need to worry about energizing the republican base first.

11/29/2007 1:25:52 PM

^^ Not a chance. The nutcase libertarian crowd isn't a big enough part of the electorate to merit a VP slot. Besides, is Giulomney really going to pick a small-government, anti-Iraq war candidate to run with them? No.

Richardson is pretty much running for Sec of State. Apparently Richardson is quite the serial philanderer, and not in an "aw-shucks" good-ol-boy way like WJC. So could sink his chances at electorial office.

11/29/2007 1:26:30 PM

also richardson is pretty disappointing from a public speaking standpoint. i wince every time he opens his mouth at a debate.

11/29/2007 1:31:00 PM

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"Not a chance. The nutcase libertarian crowd isn't a big enough part of the electorate to merit a VP slot."

If you base politics on the standard political diamond...



(Authoritarian is sometimes listed as Populist on some charts, also as Statist. Ignore the dot, I had to get the chart from somewhere.)

...we're 15-20% of the electorate per studies I've seen.

But no, Ron Paul would not be a VP for anyone.




[Edited on November 29, 2007 at 6:32 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2007 6:14:14 PM

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"the VP should have no role but to assume power if #1 is incapacitated."

Nice. We should just pay a guy to sit around and not do anything and wait for the #1 to get hurt. Hell, why not? We already pay farmers not to farm. We already pay people for not working via welfare and unemployment. Why not extend it all the way to the top?

11/30/2007 6:59:59 PM

not to mention the fact that he'd have no built-up respect, no track record with subordinates, and no day-to-day experience running anything in the executive office.


hmm.. yea sounds like just the kind of person i'd like assuming the helm of the nation when it was at the worst type of crisis imaginable

(moron)

[Edited on December 2, 2007 at 9:47 PM. Reason : s]

12/2/2007 9:47:11 PM

biden vp for obama?

[Edited on December 13, 2007 at 6:10 PM. Reason : that would be my wet dream]

12/13/2007 6:10:24 PM

^ Obama would be smart to try that if he got the nomination. Biden brings the international experience that Obama lacks...

12/13/2007 6:15:47 PM

you see how biden stuck up for him at the debate today

pundits were talking on tv on how like a lot of bidens voters would vote for barack

12/13/2007 6:43:29 PM

mccain/huckabee?

i heard mccain isnt that loved by evangelicals as other candidates



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i'm gonna go out on a limb and say my favorite candidicy would be obama/biden versus mccain/huckabee

[Edited on December 31, 2007 at 6:33 PM. Reason : .]

12/31/2007 6:26:49 PM

A green party supporter calling someone stupid? well I never

12/31/2007 6:52:19 PM

if romney or guilianni, I think the Florida governer would have a good shot ... cant remember his name, but I heard it mentioned a few times, and that would likely lock up florida for the republicans.

1/1/2008 10:04:23 AM

^Nelson is very popular in Fl, more popular then the just elected governor that you dont even know his name...lol...Nelson would of locked it up for Kerry but he selected Edwards instead...and Edwards did NOTHING for Kerry.


Nelson for the Dems, it will come down to Florida again, however, it sucks that the governor is Republican and will pick a republican to take his place.

Edwards will not ever accept the VP position again. It is all or nothing for the trail lawyer that did nothing for NC will in the senate.


[Edited on January 1, 2008 at 2:00 PM. Reason : w]

1/1/2008 1:57:11 PM

Mark Warner would make a decent VP choice for the Dems, but it looks like he will take the other Warner's Senate seat. Biden would be and excellent choice and bring important foreign policy credentials to Obama. I could see Clinton possibly picking up Biden, Obama, or even Richardson.

1/1/2008 2:43:14 PM

i don't see edwards, obama or clinton being anyone's VP at this point.

1/1/2008 4:21:12 PM