Go to this group "Do NOT support "The Golden Compass"" and click the only picture

http://ncst.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13663055161

its a very long debate, and here's a gem:

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"well first off i haven't seen the movie because it isn't out yet. second i haven't read the books because i'm a little busy with putting myself through college. third the college i attend is Georgia Tech which boasts top 5 ratings for every engineering program that it offers and is one of the best engineering schools in the WORLD. the mere fact that i attend such a school is a testament to my intelligence level so don't be so hasty to call people ignorant. lastly my point in that is that if people are really faithful christians then it makes no difference whether they see the movie or not. if you are afraid your faith will be shaken by a fiction tale then you do not truly believe. and if you wish to be openminded as is the christian way then you would not prevent others from seeing a movie because you don't want to expose them from non-christian views."

+ jerk off

11/30/2007 3:09:22 PM

im ashamed that someone i know joined that group...i think so much less of them than i already did

11/30/2007 3:10:27 PM

Fundamentalist Christians hate the book series anyway, for obvious reasons.

Not to mention that there's a big debate about how closely the movies will follow the books EXACTLY because of shit like this: they're actually toning down the anti-religious bits in the movies to cater to these fundie nutballs. So fuck them.

and LOL to whomever said the books were "pro-atheist" when God exists in the series

[Edited on November 30, 2007 at 3:18 PM. Reason : oh, and it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that most of these people haven't read the series]

11/30/2007 3:12:25 PM

^^^ ignoring the self-flattery, that guy makes a pretty good point

11/30/2007 3:15:53 PM

here's some theme music to read the epic debate to:

11/30/2007 3:19:17 PM

^^^^yea i saw someone i knew join the group, one of those "oh, you're one of those people" kinda moments

^^^i think its more 'pro atheist' because they kill God, in the words of the author, while i and this guy see it as

killing the character God, not killing "God." hes asserting that the children metaphorically decimate the confines of organzied, and clearly disillusioned and corrupted, religion

^^yea...but he takes a terpballish approach to some of his retorts

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"ok um the whole using upper-level diction to make yourself seem smarter thing has kinda worn out it's welcome so you should just give it a rest. what your saying is: 1. the author meant something in his novel that he doesn't claim to have meant but you apparently know better than him. 2. based on your assumptions those who have not read the actual text are ignorant and not allowed to form an opinion (btw opinions are based on knowledge of the subject therefore if you have a brain and can comprehend what's going on then you are indeed entitled to form an opinion) 3.you're not ugly what i'm saying: 1. you are ugly. let's not even pretend about that anymore. putting on glasses doesn't get rid of the dumbo ears and the "Roxanne" nose (if you haven't seen that movie i recomend it. pretty funny) 2. it really doesn't matter what the intent of the author was. it should just be taken at face value which is: it's a book/movie- enjoy it!"

which is where i got the for

[Edited on November 30, 2007 at 3:22 PM. Reason : ^ ]

11/30/2007 3:21:41 PM

I'm fairly sure that NCSU ranks high than GT in the program I'm in and that NCSU isn't currently in the top 5 either.

11/30/2007 3:22:34 PM

^^^nightwish rocks

[Edited on November 30, 2007 at 3:34 PM. Reason : got the new cd?]

11/30/2007 3:34:20 PM

notice that the original poster never actually noted that they were in the engineering program either

11/30/2007 3:35:38 PM

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"i think its more 'pro atheist' because they kill God, in the words of the author, while i and this guy see it as"

spoiler alert

11/30/2007 3:36:52 PM

that isn't until the very end of the trilogy

i don't remember what was really anti-religious about the first book, other than the symbolisms that could be drawn

11/30/2007 3:41:57 PM

^^well if you didn't know why this debate was happening, that's a spoiler enough

^They note that Pullman said that, but don't realize that he also said:

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""Religion is at its best when it is furthest from political power," he says. "The power to send armies to war, to rule every aspect of our lives, to tell us what to wear, what to think, what to read--when religion gets hold of that, watch out! Because trouble will ensue." Pullman has even received warm praise from members of the clergy, including the Archbishop of Canterbury, for his exploration of spiritual issues. "I suppose if you are interested in religious questions, that makes you religious," Pullman muses. "I am. What I am not is a believer in the sorts of gods that seem to be on offer from the various major religions.""

Oh, and the first book didn't do much in the way of the God stuff, unless you're counting the daemon/soul-splitting thing.

[Edited on November 30, 2007 at 3:44 PM. Reason : .]

11/30/2007 3:43:25 PM

11/30/2007 3:45:53 PM

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"^^well if you didn't know why this debate was happening, that's a spoiler enough"

i have nothing but time on my hands so i all do is look at news

I WAS JUST TEASIN

11/30/2007 3:50:08 PM

^^^ I would think that's a msg that the right can get behind, considering the problems we have with sharia law and muslims.

11/30/2007 3:53:37 PM

Hitler had it all wrong. He should have rounded up all the evangelical Christians and threw them into the gas chambers. I am so fucking sick of hearing them trying to legislate morality and try to force conformity of the masses to their warped views of Christianity and the bible

11/30/2007 4:08:47 PM

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"the mere fact that i attend such a school is a testament to my intelligence level so don't be so hasty to call people ignorant."

hahahaha

11/30/2007 4:11:04 PM

his epeen is one of the biggest i've seen.

11/30/2007 4:13:20 PM

If a stupid fictional movie is enough to debunk and refute the religious beliefs of your children then perhaps you are not doing a good enough job at raising them as a christian or this merely illustrates the fault in your belief system

11/30/2007 4:13:40 PM

Man its fantasy...

people can dream up whatever they want and put it into a movie... all you should worry about is whether or not YOU should watch it.

11/30/2007 4:14:04 PM

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"Steven Love (Georgia Tech) wrote at 1:30am on November 28th, 2007 ok um the whole using upper-level diction to make yourself seem smarter thing has kinda worn out it's welcome so you should just give it a rest. what your saying is:"

ajajajaajjajjaa

11/30/2007 4:15:40 PM

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"Dylan Moore (Farragut High School) (creator)"

Oh ho ho, there's your problem right there.

Plus I got an email about this from my second cousin once removed a few months ago.

11/30/2007 4:15:57 PM

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"the mere fact that i attend such a school is a testament to my intelligence level "

There are plenty of people with high IQs that cling to a less-than-intelligent philosophy.

11/30/2007 4:17:26 PM

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"wow!! I've never seen so many comments on a picture. It would be nice if we had a wall or something for this group."

i found it very interesting that this group had no wall and disabled threads, so i guess the creator didn't want any discussion about it, just blind conformation

11/30/2007 4:17:39 PM

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"If you dont agree with the group, DONT BE IN IT i think people should understand that by now....... if you support the books and the movie, that is your choice but we in this group do not. so if you really have a problem with the group, create a 'DO support the Golden Compass" group and post these things there. This is simply NOT the place, and i think that is blatently obvious. oh and GROW UP!"

NO YOU CAN"T DISCUSS THIS HERE

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GROW UP

11/30/2007 4:19:28 PM

this shit is funny...


whats more funny is that we try just as hard to make them see how dumb they in the way they argue...

11/30/2007 6:53:22 PM

Okay so this was supposed to make people smile not mad. Jesus loves, why can't we.
We are called to Love all
so please FROG (Fully Rely On God), PUSH (Pray Until Something Happens), and remember WWJD (What Would Jesus Do)

11/30/2007 7:00:32 PM

Does Jesus also ask that you Randomly capitalize Words?

11/30/2007 8:00:24 PM

^no.

11/30/2007 10:31:35 PM

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"im ashamed that someone i know joined that group"

11/30/2007 10:32:47 PM

me too

11/30/2007 10:35:24 PM

honestly i dont even know what group is being discussed...i hate jesus of nazarith that much!!!

11/30/2007 10:41:32 PM

I have at least five friends who have joined that group. Almost makes me want to join too, so I could try to stuff some sense into their heads. But I know better...

12/1/2007 1:13:47 AM

wait... what the fuck is a Golden Compass?

and I think its pretty funny any time Christians get upset about a "fiction tale"
that's something they should know a bit about

I mean, they will kill over one particular piece of literature
big fans, ya know?

12/1/2007 1:27:34 AM

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"PUSH (Pray Until Something Happens)"

just "something" not necessarily the "something" you pray for but you know "something" cause thats your answer

12/1/2007 1:57:30 AM

I joined it trying to add the "touched by his noodly appendage" picture.

Only to find out that I guess you can't just randomly add pictures to that group, so I promptly left it.

12/1/2007 2:50:49 AM

This debate made Wired magazine as well

12/1/2007 3:55:10 PM

if i could be guaranteed AT LEAST 20% of the movie would be polar bears in armor

i would pay money for it

attn: hollywood

you don't need writers if your movie is nothing but polar bear gladiator fights

12/1/2007 4:52:53 PM

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"Okay so this was supposed to make people smile not mad. Jesus loves, why can't we. We are called to Love all so please FROG (Fully Rely On God), PUSH (Pray Until Something Happens), and remember WWJD (What Would Jesus Do)"

Ahahahah recipes for failure

12/1/2007 4:59:03 PM