http://www.newsday.com/news/local/nassau/ny-lifath1201,0,762302.story

Incidentally this is why I made a statement in another thread that you should not be able to receive child support without marrige.

12/3/2007 8:09:39 PM

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"A Nassau County man who said he donated sperm to a female co-worker as a friendly gesture -- and then sent presents and cards to the child over the years -- is legally considered the father and may have to pay child support for the college-bound teenager, according to a judge's ruling."

you left off that they knew each other beforehand and his name is on the birth certificate...lol, a friendly gesture???? wtf? With a sperm bank, that is blank......

[Edited on December 3, 2007 at 8:27 PM. Reason : w]

12/3/2007 8:26:26 PM

So what if they knew each other before hand, why does that make him liable to pay for the child?

And so what if his name is on the birth certificate? It doesn't change the fact that it's only after 18 years that she suddenly needs child support.

Furthermore, what the hell is with them barring him from getting a paternity test done?

12/3/2007 8:42:11 PM

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"A Nassau County man who said he donated sperm to a female co-worker as a friendly gesture -- and then sent presents and cards to the child over the years -- is legally considered the father and may have to pay child support for the college-bound teenager, according to a judge's ruling."

what a tool. Has to pay for the kid and did not even get to fuck the bitch

12/3/2007 9:49:48 PM

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"he donated sperm to a female co-worker as a friendly gesture"

But when I do this it's "Sexual Harrasment"

12/3/2007 10:15:44 PM

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"So what if they knew each other before hand, why does that make him liable to pay for the child? And so what if his name is on the birth certificate?"

Well, because taking these factors into account, the only thing that separates this pack of idiots from being a regular, busted up family is the specific means of sperm delivery. To put too much emphasis on this difference effectively says that if what you like is kinky enough you're no longer liable.

12/3/2007 10:17:13 PM

^ Hence:

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"you should not be able to receive child support without marrige."

Also, another thing differentiating them is that neither side was or had any pretenses of being a family.

12/3/2007 10:55:47 PM

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"Incidentally this is why I made a statement in another thread that you should not be able to receive child support without marrige."

I disagree. I have a cousin that got knocked up and has been left with a kid due to her worthless boyfriend that is too lazy to go to work. He and his parents want custody of the child because "she is an unfit mother", not to mention the extra money that would be added on their welfare check. So he wants custody of the child, but is unwilling to actually support the child while she goes out and works.

Now in a perfect world, teenagers would get married before having sex. But if you believe a lot of people actually do that, I have a bridge to sell you.

[Edited on December 3, 2007 at 11:06 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2007 11:05:40 PM

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"Also, another thing differentiating them is that neither side was or had any pretenses of being a family. "

Same could be said of plenty of situations where a guy knocks a girl up, knowing full well the consequences and frequently trying very hard to manipulate the situation to that end.

12/3/2007 11:29:48 PM

money, cards signed Dad, kid thought of him as his dad....if he didnt want to have a thing to do with the kid he shouldnt of been doing that. His own fault.

12/3/2007 11:39:59 PM

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"I have a cousin that got knocked up and has been left with a kid due to her worthless boyfriend that is too lazy to go to work. He and his parents want custody of the child because "she is an unfit mother", not to mention the extra money that would be added on their welfare check. So he wants custody of the child, but is unwilling to actually support the child while she goes out and works. "

Well, I'm an equal opportunity asshole, the flip side of the no marrige = no child support is that no marrige = who ever doesn't have the kid has no say or further claim on the life of that child. So in your cousin's case while she wouldn't get child support (doesn't sound like she is anyway) he and his parents would have no claim on the child.

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"Same could be said of plenty of situations where a guy knocks a girl up, knowing full well the consequences and frequently trying very hard to manipulate the situation to that end."

Are there really that many guys out there purposefully trying to get a girl pregnant so that he can run off and stiff her with the bill? And if so, maybe we should be encouraging these girls to demand a marrige contract so they can get their child support.

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"money, cards signed Dad, kid thought of him as his dad....if he didnt want to have a thing to do with the kid he shouldnt of been doing that. His own fault."

So being involved in a child's life makes you financialy responsible for them? He sends the kids cards and has talked to him on the phone all of 15 times, I have friends of family out of state that saw me as a kid more often than that.

12/3/2007 11:52:04 PM

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"Well, I'm an equal opportunity asshole, the flip side of the no marrige = no child support is that no marrige = who ever doesn't have the kid has no say or further claim on the life of that child. So in your cousin's case while she wouldn't get child support (doesn't sound like she is anyway) he and his parents would have no claim on the child."

There's a difference between being an equal opportunity asshole and how real life works though.

12/4/2007 12:05:23 AM

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"Are there really that many guys out there purposefully trying to get a girl pregnant so that he can run off and stiff her with the bill?"

Trying to get her pregnant? No. Trying to do things that dramatically increase the likelihood of pregnancy? Yes.

12/4/2007 12:06:02 AM

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"money, cards signed Dad, kid thought of him as his dad, named after Dad .... if he didnt want to have a thing to do with the kid he shouldnt of been doing that. His own fault."

the dude is a douchebag, and this is a non-fucking-issue.

seriously. go get outraged about something meaningful.

12/4/2007 12:08:43 AM

the child support system (and custody laws, etc, too) are fucked up in a huge way. i don't even feel like getting into it right now...maybe later.

12/4/2007 1:08:26 AM

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"the dude is a douchebag, and this is a non-fucking-issue."

So true... he has to pay and the whole issue started in a "non-fucking" way.

12/4/2007 1:29:43 AM

heh. got me.

12/4/2007 1:31:06 AM

It's his fault because he did not consider the legal ramifications of 'donating' his sperm to a co-worker as a 'friendly' gesture. In a thinking person's world, he should have signed away his paternal rights for this very reason and she should have wanted him to sign away his paternal rights so that he had no legal claim to the child. Doing this without any of the proper paperwork puts both the mother and the biological father in vulnerable positions.

LAWYER UP, PEOPLE.

12/4/2007 11:43:33 AM