Spar Veteran 205 Posts user info edit post |
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=3977702&page=1
Saw this on digg. Pretty terrible.
Excerpts
Quote : | " A Houston, Texas woman says she was gang-raped by Halliburton/KBR coworkers in Baghdad, and the company and the U.S. government are covering up the incident.
Jamie Leigh Jones, now 22, says that after she was raped by multiple men at a KBR camp in the Green Zone, the company put her under guard in a shipping container with a bed and warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she'd be out of a job.
Legal experts say Jones' alleged assailants will likely never face a judge and jury, due to an enormous loophole that has effectively left contractors in Iraq beyond the reach of United States law." |
12/10/2007 6:12:37 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
She can still get her payday, fwiw
[Edited on December 10, 2007 at 6:14 PM. Reason : .] 12/10/2007 6:14:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "gang-raped by Halliburton/KBR coworkers" |
Quote : | "if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she'd be out of a job" |
why wouldn't she want to be out of that job12/10/2007 6:31:50 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
well, i mean, she'd probably rather keep her job and have the supposed rapists lose theirs...
[Edited on December 10, 2007 at 6:53 PM. Reason : .] 12/10/2007 6:52:46 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
wait. did the rape involve someone calling in, claiming to be a police officer? 12/10/2007 7:11:54 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
That is hilarious because rape is hilarious. 12/10/2007 7:33:50 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
George Carlin already proved that rape can be hilarious 12/10/2007 7:35:48 PM |
MrT All American 1336 Posts user info edit post |
OMG U R 2 EDGY !!!!!!!!! 12/10/2007 8:29:09 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Im gonna call BS on this one. Have you all seen her? Maybe they thought they were doing a camel? It could have been an honest mistake.
Honestly, I bet its just some young idiot trying to make millions. If Im wrong, I feel bad for her. 12/10/2007 8:39:13 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Im gonna call BS on this one. Have you all seen her? Maybe they thought they were doing a camel? It could have been an honest mistake. " |
you should be fucking ashamed.12/10/2007 9:16:25 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That's a pretty messed up thing to say. 12/10/2007 9:18:46 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I wouldn't throw her out of bed for eating crackers.
12/10/2007 9:29:11 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
I can't believe nobody asked...
......but were they hot as fuck?
[Edited on December 10, 2007 at 9:37 PM. Reason : just being silly...of course they ought to be castrated] 12/10/2007 9:37:00 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "eyedrb : Im gonna call BS on this one. Have you all seen her? Maybe they thought they were doing a camel? " | .
hey, asshole. youre supposed to be a medical professional.
(yeah, i know, its just optometry... but still)
and yet, HERE YOU ARE, making fun of rape victims.
i hope someone tracks you down and publicly calls you on half the redneck/racist/misogynistic/republican bullshit you spout on here under cover of anonymity. You self-righteous moralistic conservative hypocrites make me sick.
Quote : | "TreeTwista10: why wouldn't she want to be out of that job" |
so i guess, women who get raped at work should just quit their jobs, huh? never mind they might have mortgages to pay and mouths to feed... they can just go get a job waiting tables. better yet, maybe they should have just stayed home like good women should.
do you and eyedrb hang out? you probably should. i can see you two getting along real well over a few beers talking trash about all the bitches and hoes you could have done.12/10/2007 11:50:42 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
I would agree with that one guy in calling BS (even though the rest of his post is just stupidity), since claiming that you were raped by Haliburton employees and the US is staging a cover-up seems like something that's just too convenient a way to get money and media attention (Duke lacrosse case, as an example of something like this), but the article says that doctors confirmed that she was in fact raped... so I'll go with: Wow, Haliburton employees are fucking idiots, and it's very unfortunate what happened to her. 12/11/2007 12:01:10 AM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so i guess, women who get raped at work should just quit their jobs, huh? never mind they might have mortgages to pay and mouths to feed... they can just go get a job waiting tables. better yet, maybe they should have just stayed home like good women should." |
So.... if you got shot by a couple coworkers and they said that if you told anyone they shot you that you would lose your job... you would still go back to work with them. Interesting.12/11/2007 12:08:18 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
^^She claims that there was a rape kit confirming vaginal and anal forced entry, but that KBR destroyed it in a cover-up. She claims a lot of things in her "60 Minutes" exclusive interview and multi-million dollar civil suit against that big, evil corporation backed by the big, evil republican-led government. The glamour shots featured in the article make it seem like she is attention-whoring at this point.
I could see this one going either way. She could turn out to be a genuine victim, or she could be stringing us along and trying to make some money. Or maybe the truth is somewhere in-between, and there is another side to the story.
We'll see.
[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 12:15 AM. Reason : 2] 12/11/2007 12:10:30 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^^ dont be a dumbass.
you'd want the fuckers who did it to be investigated and charged as required. and you'd want the company to stand behind the law and hold people involved accountable.
and if they didnt, you'd want them to pay through the fucking nose. 12/11/2007 1:07:02 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so i guess, women who get raped at work should just quit their jobs, huh? never mind they might have mortgages to pay and mouths to feed... they can just go get a job waiting tables. better yet, maybe they should have just stayed home like good women should.
do you and eyedrb hang out? you probably should. i can see you two getting along real well over a few beers talking trash about all the bitches and hoes you could have done.
" |
1 day in the box12/11/2007 1:40:53 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
This is interesting, and I want to talk about it.
But part of me is waiting for it to come out as a false allegation.
And that's really sad. 12/11/2007 2:54:55 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ There's always a possibility anyone accused of any crime could be innocent, but if she was really found in a shipping container, that's pretty damning, I think:
Quote : | " Poe says his office contacted the State Department, which quickly dispatched agents from the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad to Jones' camp, where they rescued her from the container." |
12/11/2007 2:56:55 AM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
I just wonder what sort of job would need a girl like her (barely twenty something years old, probably no degree) in the green zone in Baghdad
[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 2:58 AM. Reason : .] 12/11/2007 2:58:02 AM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
from the message board from the story link
Quote : | "This is all part of God's plan. God had a plan for her. God works in strange and mysterious ways. THANK GOD for His amazing grace. These men were just instruments of His will. Praise be to God! Posted by: drindo 2:33 AM" |
12/11/2007 3:01:30 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
must be some other God. 12/11/2007 3:03:08 AM |
SkiSalomon All American 4264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you'd want the fuckers who did it to be investigated and charged as required. and you'd want the company to stand behind the law and hold people involved accountable." |
While I certainly agree with you that I'd want those responsible investigated and charged, it is an unusual scenario in this case. Due to a mandate issued by the Coalition Provisional Authority on Bremer's way out, the contractors in Iraq fall under a legal gray area. They aren't really accountable under Iraqi or US law (although due to the recent blackwater incidents this will likely change). So in this case, what law is there to stand behind and hold them accountable to? It is a disgusting situation and one would hope that situations like these werent the intent of the CPA mandate.
Quote : | "but if she was really found in a shipping container, that's pretty damning" |
I wouldnt automatically take shipping container to mean something as bad as it may seem. Much of the housing in the International Zone (Green Zone) is temporary and largely in shipping container like boxes.12/11/2007 3:13:48 AM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It is a disgusting situation and one would hope that situations like these werent the intent of the CPA mandate." |
I think that the people who wrote the CPA mandate were smart enough to know what they were doing. So contractors (particularly private military contractors) are not privy to the UCMJ or punishable by Iraqi authorities. They just also happen to be significant contributors to the Republican party and conservative PAC's. Makes you wonder.12/11/2007 3:18:51 AM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Damning evidence to me is when... Quote : | "an examination by Army doctors showed she had been raped "both vaginally and anally,"" | ...provided that its true. If there's anyone to trust in this situation, its an Army doctor.
[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 3:24 AM. Reason : .]12/11/2007 3:23:46 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
hey maybe this balances out the several iraqi women raped by americans in iraq?
/disgusting sarcasm
IF it is true, execute the fuckers. 12/11/2007 5:49:10 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^Do those women have numerous male witnesses in good-standing who were at the scene of the crime? And are those numerous male witnesses willing to testify to the rapes?
Because if they don't, they're lying whores and should be stoned to death for speaking ill of men, even evil American ones.
[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 6:32 AM. Reason : Women in Iraq have got it made, y'all!] 12/11/2007 6:31:56 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In fact, ABC News could not confirm any federal agency was investigating the case." |
I'd really like to hear the other side of this story.12/11/2007 7:41:15 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Like I said, I think she is lying. Its all a little to convient and sounds far fetched, like a younger person would make up and think people believe. She had a cell phone in her holding crate? She could call her mom, but not call for help?
Yes, I made fun of her looks.
Hey joe, I made fun of a girl that I think is lying. I also said, if im wrong, I really feel bad for her. Im curious what you think is redneck/racist/misogynistic/republican that i spout on here?
Anyway, Prawn star sums up my feelings exactly. And WHY would the government be willing to coverup a rape allegation? I could see if it was against an iraqi by american soldiers. BUt this is a private company with company workers. You dont see them do this for anything else. Im guessing she is hoping the Haliburton=satan montra will be enough to blind the logic of many people. 12/11/2007 9:08:19 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "WHY would the government be willing to coverup a rape allegation" |
I really can not believe anyone has to explain this to you.
Quote : | "heney retired from the company during the 2000 U.S. presidential election campaign with a severance package worth $34 million.[23] As of 2004, he had received $398,548 in deferred compensation from Halliburton while Vice President.[24] Concerns have been raised regarding the possible conflict of interest resulting from Cheney's deferred compensation and stock options from Halliburton" |
Halliburton through its close ties with the administration has already gotten billions of pork sents its way. Since the Iraq war began there has been scandal after scandal relating to financial spending ($2000 toilet seats anyone??). Blackwater has in Iraq been in the spot light for wasting away Iraqi civilians with the Iraqi gov't demanding their removal from the country. Thus i do not find it hard to believe some shit bags from Halliburton raped some chick in Baghdad. Worst comes to worst they can just wait for Bush to pardon them the last few days he is in office.
Quote : | "Halliburton’s $2.5 billion no-bid RIO contract was supposed to pay for itself as well as reconstruction of the entire country. Had the contract been fulfilled correctly, Iraq would be able to export much more oil from its northern oil fields. Instead, the oil fields are barely usable and access to international markets is severely limited. Halliburton’s work on the pipeline crossing the Tigris river at Al Fatah was a critical failure. Against the advice of its own experts, Halliburton tried to dig a tunnel through a geological fault zone. The underground terrain was a jumble of boulders, voids, cobblestones and gravel impossible for the kind of drilling Halliburton planned. "No driller in his right mind would have gone ahead", said Army geologist Robert Sanders when the military finally sent people to inspect the work .But the geologists didn’t understand what the business managers knew: that Halliburton would get paid no matter what.[19]
Halliburton spent every nickel of the $75.7 million allocated to the river crossing, including $100,000 a day while crews sat idle while drill bits were broken and equipment jammed. They never reported their poor results, changed their approach or were penalized for their failure.
The Inspector General estimated the money lost from oil exports at $5 million a day. After Halliburton spent all the money, the U.S. issued a new $66 million job order dedicated to the same task." |
I honestly can not believe that the Bush/Cheney and Co. keep getting away with shit like this. Do our congressmen not see a conflict of interest btw Cheney and Halliburton. Who am i kidding the influential senators are probably getting some form of cutback from Halliburton.
[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 10:08 AM. Reason : a][quote]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton
[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 10:10 AM. Reason : a]12/11/2007 10:06:52 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^because covering up a criminal act, by private citizens in a private company bc they receive money from the government? Bit of a stretch dont you think?
If they can get the "nice" guard that gave her the cell phone to testify that she was raped, she will get what she deserves and I will apologize. 12/11/2007 10:19:24 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Cheney does not want his stock options to go down 5 points b.c of a rape scandal duh!
Plus if this comes out true maybe people will start being more vocal about getting rid of Halliburton. 12/11/2007 10:24:57 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^well I just couldnt disagree more.
Cheney pulling the coverup on all those levels, jeopardizing the admin to save a couple points on some stock? Still a stretch. 12/11/2007 11:14:26 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do our congressmen not see a conflict of interest btw Cheney and Halliburton. Who am i kidding the influential senators are probably getting some form of cutback from Halliburton." |
god bless the 51% of the country that voted for this, and noone else
git-er-bumper-sticker-dun12/11/2007 11:15:00 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
my favorite bumber sticker is the
W
lol
i'd estimate that 80% of the time they are smacked onto the back of a big ass Yukon or Ford Expedition. I hope Bush paid you to advertise for him since you are paying his oil buddies by driving a vehicle making 12 mpg 12/11/2007 11:32:37 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^speaking of bumper stickers.
One made me laugh the other day. It had the W.. then tf. Made me chuckle.
My favorite, and surprised to see it actually, someone had one that said, "work hard, millions on welfare are counting on you." I thought that guy had some balls. 12/11/2007 12:38:59 PM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
YAY! NOW RAPE CAN BE PARTISAN! 12/11/2007 12:57:26 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
those bumper stickers are costing some people and arm and a leg
literally 12/11/2007 12:57:53 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "work hard, millions on welfare are counting on you" |
that is fucking awesome; where can i get one of those.12/11/2007 1:02:29 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
work hard, a handful of old boys are depending on you
g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-it er dun 12/11/2007 1:24:42 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
alright lets just agree the lowest echelons of society want to sit around collect off society and the uber highest % wants to manipulate society to protect its vested interest and further its own gains. It is a no win situation.
[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 1:28 PM. Reason : a] 12/11/2007 1:28:00 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
let's just agree that implying that a woman is deserved of rape because she isn't attractive is pretty much terrible regardless of how you look at it. 12/11/2007 1:29:16 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
it does effect credibility. If martha stuart claimed that Tom Brady raped her after meeting up to discuss drape colors would you believe her? 12/11/2007 1:36:45 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
i disagree. i don't think that attractiveness has all that much to do with people choosing to rape someone. rape is a violent act. it's not like (if true) this group of guy was like "i think this girl is hot! let's rape her and then throw her in a storage container!" 12/11/2007 1:42:27 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^sarijoul, I was making a joke about her looks, mainly because I dont believe her story. Was it in bad taste? yes
I honestly dont think she is a rape victim, but Im sure she is ugly. Oh, there I go again. Ill stop.
As Ive said before if this turns out to be true, Ill apologize.
HUR, here is a website with some funny ones. This version of the welfare isnt the one I saw, but its on there. http://www.prankplace.com/stickers.htm
[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 1:49 PM. Reason : .] 12/11/2007 1:47:32 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
You seem like a really shitty person. All political beliefs aside, your choice to repeatedly make fun of this woman is fucking sad. 12/11/2007 1:58:24 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
i'd hit it 12/11/2007 1:59:34 PM |
Honkeyball All American 1684 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just being silly...of course they ought to be castrated" |
And I'm not talking chemically.12/11/2007 2:04:05 PM |