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dmspack
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recruiting is weird. whatever works.

4/7/2017 12:56:07 PM

dmspack
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saw this on Packpride.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/school/_/id/152/class/2018/north-carolina-state

2018 commit De'von Graves was bumped up to a 4 star on ESPN. so now all 3 of our non-kicker commits are 4* according to ESPN. not a bad start.

4/25/2017 6:54:17 AM

chigh19
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Been following tww since my college days but I live and work in Rocky Mount, NC and saw this in the local paper. I thought you guys would enjoy reading Nadir Thompson's thoughts on his recruitment and state coaches.

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/High-Schools/2017/04/26/Nadir-Thompson-decommits-from-N-C-State.html

4/27/2017 2:45:35 PM

justinh524
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Cool.

4/27/2017 3:15:17 PM

rwoody
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I'm just going to forever assume that any new account shitting on State or making a false claim of "insider" knowledge is another JB alias

4/27/2017 3:24:11 PM

justinh524
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ROCKY MOUNT = ROCKY TOP

4/27/2017 3:36:54 PM

WolfMiami
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and why wouldn't they trust a 17 year old kid who had made a non-binding commitment and continued to take free trips and reciprocate the interest of other suitors

college sports programs have limited slots/scholarships for each sport, if they take a "commitment" and feel like a position need is filled, and the kid jumps ship, it can really hurt them, particularly in a situation where a guy gets moved up the recruiting rankings after committing

look, I hate to admit this, but he was dating a 6 (at best) and started getting some looks from 8's and 9's and who is to fault him, but similarly, who is to fault the coaches for trying to keep him from going out on date after date after date

all part of the game, and until the NCAA introduces an early signing period for football, this will continue to happen time and again, just sucks that these reporters feel the need to frame the articles as if anyone is really at fault, when the system is primarily to blame

4/27/2017 3:49:28 PM

dmspack
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i think he's been decomitted for a while. maybe not officially, but he hasn't been listed on any commitment lists for State in a while.

can't blame him for feeling like the coaches didn't trust him. but also can't really blame the staff for trying to keep him from getting away. probably a real fine line between "trusting" the kid and trying to keep him from wandering too much. tbh, commits that are real early are nice but a lotta times should probably be taken with a grain of salt...especially for a program like us. if a guy commits early as a junior and then blows up as a senior and is getting offers from big time programs, then i can't blame them from looking at those bigger/better programs. or if he just changes his mind and decides he isn't crazy about coming to State after all. they're teenagers making life changing decisions and have tons of people in their ear. it's probably a real challenge to keep recruiting those kids even after they've verbally committed for a middle of the road program like us...a big name comes calling and it's hard to compete with somebody like Clemson or FSU even if we were in on that recruiting early.

4/27/2017 5:39:32 PM

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Quote :
"“It is never good to have a change of mind,” Foster said. “At the same time, kids are kids, and you see adults doing the same thing. You'll see coaches leaving schools all the time, whether it is an assistant or a head coach.
“. . . I think Nadir is a smart kid, and he understands more than just football. We don’t like it, but I support him.”"

4/27/2017 6:40:33 PM

dmspack
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Blaming a kid for having a change of mind and decomitting is pretty shitty. But it still happens a lot.

4/27/2017 6:52:18 PM

rwoody
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Red Light WR Devin Carter

5/12/2017 12:44:21 PM

Sandman
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likely future starting TE

5/12/2017 12:53:43 PM

dmspack
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he's from clayton.

3* on Scout, looks like he's unranked on Rivals and 247.

looks like he had offers from Mich St and Minnesota as well as G5 schools (ECU, Charlotte, Elon, etc).

5/12/2017 1:07:15 PM

natureboy
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He definitely has some impressive stats.

5/12/2017 10:59:54 PM

LudaChris
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Carter just had a big showing last week at a recruiting event(same one where Person showed out and got an invite to The Opening, same with Gywn who we're recruiting).

I think more offers were/are coming for Carter. Talented class so far and "leading" for some big time guys too.

5/15/2017 8:12:45 AM

dmspack
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we've gotten a strong start to the '18 class, like ^ mentioned. Person, Leary, and Graves are all a 4* by at least one service or another. obviously the class still has a long ways to go before it's completely filled out. but i feel like a strong start to the season could big a boost for this class and hopefully help give DD his best season on the field and one of his best classes as well. because we lose a lot after this season.

5/15/2017 8:27:37 AM

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Looks like this kid has moved up our ranks lately.

http://247sports.com/Player/Dakereon-Joyner-77309

5/18/2017 11:39:32 AM

dmspack
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we've been hard after him for a long time. sounds like it's between us and South Carolina. probably doesn't help us a ton that we already have a commit from Leary in the '18 class, but we're still after Joyner too. think he's announcing on father's day, iirc.

also saw where commit de'von graves is starting to garner more interest from other schools. vt and tennessee are after him. hope we can hang on to him.

[Edited on May 18, 2017 at 11:55 AM. Reason : lp]

5/18/2017 11:52:49 AM

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I heard that Joyner is already pretty much at SC and that we've told Leary we are no longer recruiting Joyner.

[Edited on May 18, 2017 at 12:38 PM. Reason : Eew]

5/18/2017 12:37:37 PM

dmspack
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^makes sense and not particularly surprising, really. leary seems like he's got a lot of promise, so i'm happy with him.

5/18/2017 3:26:08 PM

LudaChris
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All of our recruits are going to be recruited all season.

Joyner is just trying to keep some buzz around his announcement, everyone knows where he's going. We would have taken his commitment, we wanted 2 QBs, but Leary was clearly a higher priority.

USC also wanted 2 QBs, but their other choice just chose Wisconsin so they went all-in on Joyner.

5/18/2017 5:32:07 PM

rwoody
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S Malik Dunlap. Unrated. Apparently has some teammates he could help recruit now.

5/19/2017 10:07:58 PM

tulsigabbard
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^
https://youtu.be/Te6PeqHyszA?t=2h19m22s
Maybe he can get some picks in dunlap's corner

5/19/2017 10:15:59 PM

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5/20/2017 8:11:53 AM

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