100 identical wallets were "lost" on purpose to see what people would do if found. Each wallet contained 2.10 in real money, a fake $50 gift certificate, and a clearly written out identification card. The people that picked up the wallet were filmed. Purpose was to see who returned the wallet and who kept it. The study breaks down age, gender, and race. These pie charts can be found in the FAQ. Pretty interesting study if you're bored:

http://www.wallettest.com/

1/3/2008 2:33:00 PM

wait for it....

1/3/2008 2:33:58 PM

who keeps 10 cents in their wallet?

1/3/2008 2:39:01 PM

I CALL BS

1/3/2008 2:43:56 PM

Racially Specific Test Results:
Of the 100 people tested -
77 were white and
23 were black:

White People:
Of the 77 white people tested:
79% (61) were honest and returned the wallets.
21% (16) were dishonest and kept the wallets.

Black People:
Of the 23 black people tested:
57% (13) were honest and returned the wallets.
43% (10) were dishonest and kept the wallets.

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Comparing both Race and Gender at the same time:

Of the 37 "White Females" tested:
95% (35) were honest and returned the wallets.
5% (2) were dishonest and kept the wallets.

Of the 14 "Black Females" tested:
64% (9) were honest and returned the wallets.
36% (5) were dishonest and kept the wallets.

Of the 40 "White Males" tested:
65% (26) were honest and returned the wallets.
35% (14) were dishonest and kept the wallets.

Of the 9 "Black Males" tested:
44% (4) were honest and returned the wallets.
56% (5) were dishonest and kept the wallets.

1/3/2008 2:44:14 PM

Who has dirt and toothpicks in their wallet?

1/3/2008 2:45:36 PM

Is this the one in NYC where cops arrested anyone who didn't immediately turn it in to a transit worker?

[Edited on January 3, 2008 at 2:45 PM. Reason : kjh]

1/3/2008 2:45:50 PM

Hahaha...

Let the can of worms be opened!

1/3/2008 2:47:59 PM

^

Quote :

"Blacks just can't seem to help themselves. Such a large percentage of them are so inherently dishonest. It's not about Racism. It's about realism. It's comical how non-blacks are expected to sit back and pretend we don't witness or read about the dishonest things that so many blacks do. They are 12% of the population and commit more crime than all the other races combined."

from: http://forum.normandcompany.com/viewtopic.php?t=174

1/3/2008 2:48:43 PM

^^^Belleville, Illinois

[Edited on January 3, 2008 at 2:51 PM. Reason : in on page one]

1/3/2008 2:50:59 PM

If i conducted the test my fake gift certificate would have a spot that says "call this number to redeem/activate"



when they do, the voice on the other line will say " Wake county sherrif's department, Deputy Wiggins speaking"

1/3/2008 2:57:29 PM

not surprised...

1/3/2008 3:00:34 PM

I grew up near Belleville, what a horrible place

I call BS on the racial break down data, the forum is a blast "I'm not racist but....<insert racist comment>"

1/3/2008 3:13:11 PM

How could you only take race and gender into account here? That isn't the way experiments work. Did they poll these people to see where they are from/ what race they are?

Who's to say this "experiment" tests HONESTY and not HUNGER?

These idiots who ran this "experiment" probably never finished highschool.

1/3/2008 3:24:13 PM

Quote :

"Did they poll these people to see where they are from/ what race they are"

I'm pretty sure you can tell the race just by looking at them.

1/3/2008 3:25:40 PM

I'm pretty sure you're an idiot

1/3/2008 3:30:19 PM

are you sure about that? but first, make sure i wasn't being sarcastic

[Edited on January 3, 2008 at 3:35 PM. Reason : DC DC C]

1/3/2008 3:35:26 PM

Okay, then I'm not pretty sure. I just don't know

1/3/2008 3:37:26 PM

the sole purpose was to see who what do what with the wallet.

1/3/2008 4:02:58 PM

what about Azns?

1/3/2008 4:09:57 PM

Quote :

"the sole purpose was to see who what do what with the wallet."

I think I remember how to speak idiot from my days going to class with some of your type at NCSU... so I think I know what you're saying.

But anyway, if that was the sole purpose, why would they take 100 people and divide them into BLACK and WHITE?

I saw that there were other categories, like AGE... but when it came to race, they only used BLACK and WHITE.

Interesting how they could get such a distinct sample!!!! I guess there were no "others" - or maybe when an "other" was "honest" they counted as "white"?

1/3/2008 4:10:07 PM

or maybe some people were fucking white and some people were fucking black. is it really that hard to understand? you act like they shouldn't have categorized them like that..but judging by the numbers they were probably right to. i'm not saying OH BLACK PPL STEAL blah blah blah, I'm just saying most stereotypes are there for a reason.

1/3/2008 4:12:12 PM

Quote :

"or maybe some people were fucking white and some people were fucking black."

yeah, and I'm sure enough non-white/blacks were there to skew the polls in any way they wanted to

Actually, I think that is hard to understand for hard-heads like you who want SO MUCH to believe what your parents told you about the world.

[Edited on January 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM. Reason : ]

1/3/2008 4:17:42 PM

can of worms opened. and the first to bite, as usual, terpball.

1/3/2008 4:32:14 PM

Yeah, this was just dumb shit - it's my job to call out the idiots

1/3/2008 4:34:58 PM

This just in. White people have better eyesight because they picked up more wallets than black people.

1/3/2008 4:51:19 PM

Or.... maybe the black people weren't looking at the ground because they were busy staring at white girls' chests, and all other girls' fat asses.

1/3/2008 4:53:01 PM

or rapping

1/3/2008 5:36:29 PM

hahahha this is funny

1/3/2008 5:43:23 PM

I noticed the FAQ's on the web page did not specifically address:

Where exactly were a majority of the wallets placed? On the street? In a subway station? In the dressing room of Macy's? That would impact the sample. For example, if the wallets were left in mainly deserted allies- then one would be more likely to have homeless individuals pick up the wallet. Maybe they didn't have access to a phone. Maybe they would have reported it if they did. Perhaps leaving wallets in deserted allies encourages people of specific demographics to take part in the "study". If they left the wallets in a dressing room in Macy's they'd be more likely to attract the segment of population that shops at Macy's. Get it?

Notice the sample size between genders- more whites than blacks tended to pick up the wallets. What do you all think accounts for that?

I think this study is bogus all the way. It seems like something totally random someone did (he even admits this isn't a real study). The problem with these types of "tests" is that some people will read his web site and "statistics" and not be critical about what they are reading. Instead those people will jump to faulty and terribly based conclusions like...."White people are more honest than Black people"

Anyway...just my two cents.

1/3/2008 6:00:50 PM

glad to see we're starting off 2008 with reposts of shit that is old as hell

1/3/2008 8:58:23 PM

[Edited on January 3, 2008 at 9:04 PM. Reason : n/m]

1/3/2008 9:03:19 PM

100 does not a sample size make

1/3/2008 9:03:53 PM

or rapers

Quote :

""Blacks ... are 12% of the population and commit more crime than all the other races combined.""

I've heard this statistic from the DoJ as well - why is it so hard to believe???

1/3/2008 9:13:30 PM

^ This is what I'm talking about. As it pertains to the "study" that this thread refers to it would be inappropriate to conclude that blacks commit more crime. Fine the DoJ says it- I'm guessing that they base that on numerous studies that have more merit than the one mentioned in this thread. However, to look at THIS specific study and say "Yup, just as I thought, blacks commit more crime" would be incorrect.


Also 100 people CAN make a sample size for some studies. In this particular one, 100 in one town is problematic. Could we take the results of this study and replicate it in let's say Iowa and get similar results? NO. Can we/should we take the results and generalize it to the American population? NO. That's another reason why basing conclusions off of this study is inappropriate.

Here's another thing...by saying that DoJ say that blacks commit more crime.....are you saying that picking up a stray wallet on the street is a crime? What happened to finders,keepers? Or have none of you done that before?

[Edited on January 3, 2008 at 9:28 PM. Reason : j/b]

1/3/2008 9:25:13 PM

they did break the results down by age as well, young people kept the wallet more often ~ 50% honest , old people gave the wallet back more often ~70 % honest.

1/3/2008 9:32:30 PM

^^What the hell is your major malfunction? Just chill

1/3/2008 10:20:55 PM

Normalize by income, faggots

1/3/2008 10:24:30 PM

OMFG RACISM PAGING AL SHARPTON!!!

nahh i do not see how anyone can honestly deny the inference that from the sample group that blacks were more likely to take the wallet. I do not think an experiment was needed to persuade people of that. Yeah it is most likely due to socio-economics and parenting but the fact remains. This is what people get confused. I do not think genetically being black has very much to do with a predisposition to steal or lie. It's the other factors that come into play on the nurture side that creates the difference. However, whenever someone tries to highlight that fact the offended party pulls out the race card.



[Edited on January 3, 2008 at 10:31 PM. Reason : l]

1/3/2008 10:26:00 PM

You mean this one?

1/3/2008 11:27:54 PM

Quote :

"OMFG RACISM PAGING AL SHARPTON!!! nahh i do not see how anyone can honestly deny the inference that from the sample group that blacks were more likely to take the wallet. I do not think an experiment was needed to persuade people of that. Yeah it is most likely due to socio-economics and parenting but the fact remains. This is what people get confused. I do not think genetically being black has very much to do with a predisposition to steal or lie. It's the other factors that come into play on the nurture side that creates the difference. However, whenever someone tries to highlight that fact the offended party pulls out the race card. "

You just don't get it... honestly, you're a fucking idiot, and I hope you didn't really get into the same school I got a degree from.

Do you honestly believe out of the 100 people in the sample group, ALL WERE EITHER WHITE OR BLACK?

No, it doesn't work that way, they obviously skewed the results, you're a fucking idiot.

1/4/2008 9:52:59 AM

someone needs to embed the "white people / black people" gif

1/4/2008 9:58:10 AM

okay esgargs

1/4/2008 10:02:12 AM

holy shit I was just thinking that,haha

I wonder where the fake gift certificate was good for...

And if you look at the website it does indeed look like everyone was either black or white. They probably just didn't show the Mexicans and Asians, unless they are none in the city

[Edited on January 4, 2008 at 10:06 AM. Reason : .]

1/4/2008 10:04:38 AM

When I was in high school, I did a similar test at the state fair... except the wallet had a piece of paper in it that said, "YOU SUCK," instead of money.

1/4/2008 10:22:45 AM

Quote :

"Do you honestly believe out of the 100 people in the sample group, ALL WERE EITHER WHITE OR BLACK? "

It's not out of the realm of possibility, but that wouldn't fit into your mindset so whatever.

1/4/2008 12:27:36 PM

Financial status probably plays a roll as well.

What about the people who saw it and did nothing ?

If i didn't see who's it was that is what i would do.


[Edited on January 4, 2008 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

1/4/2008 12:41:13 PM

Quote :

"It's not out of the realm of possibility, but that wouldn't fit into your mindset so whatever. "

Actually, it is almost out of the realm of possibility - so I think it's your mindset that's in question here. You want to believe this is a valid experiment so bad, you're willing to think the damn near impossible happened!

Says a lot about you.

1/4/2008 12:43:01 PM

i think this test is bullshit not bc i'm black but bc of the contents of the wallet. i've never stolen anything in my life but if i found a wallet with 2$(gift certificate is negligible since it looks fake as shit anyway) i probably wouldn't go through the trouble of returning the shit either, and it's not a real id it's his name written on a slip of paper. there are way too many factors here to even take this seriously. based on those same results i could say
" white people are more likely to embezzle from their company so they don't have to take 2$ out of a wallet on the street"or
"white people have more free time to track a guy down for 2$ bc they have better jobs that they got bc they weren't black and viewed as dishonest."


[Edited on January 4, 2008 at 7:41 PM. Reason : .]

1/4/2008 7:34:30 PM

WAT

1/4/2008 8:52:57 PM