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hammster
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So, this guy I know from high school is a LDS. He is attending this college I have never heard of but wanted to look into... BYU-Brigham Young University. I went to this school's website and it makes me curious how its legal.

First of all, to be admitted, you have to be endorsed by your "ecclesiastical leader" as one who is worthy to attend. One of the factors taken into consideration for admittance is seminary attendance.

Next, the tuition is twice as much if you are not a member of the church.

I try to understand others points of view, but this just seems ridiculous to me. Seems more like a cult than a religion?

Anyone have any insight?
http://www.byu.edu/webapp/home/index.jsp

1/7/2008 3:28:11 AM

drunknloaded
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haha

this is so chit chat

[Edited on January 7, 2008 at 3:40 AM. Reason : seriously...AND you'd probably get better responses too..]

1/7/2008 3:37:43 AM

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^^

1) You've never heard of BYU
2) Apparently, you've never heard of private universities either...

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"and it makes me curious how its legal.

First of all, to be admitted, you have to be endorsed by your "ecclesiastical leader""

1/7/2008 3:41:21 AM

hammster
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Well Duke is a private school, that doesn't make it legal for them to accept only Methodists....

1/7/2008 3:43:57 AM

Talage
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^ uh that absolutely makes it legal for them to accept only methodists.

[Edited on January 7, 2008 at 3:46 AM. Reason : the only thing the government could really do is restrict financial aid]

1/7/2008 3:45:47 AM

hammster
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How about charging methodists half as much tuition as non-methodists

1/7/2008 3:47:47 AM

drunknloaded
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duke only accepts methodists? or are yall just using it as an example?

are the basketball players it gets methodists?(if yall were not bullshitting)

1/7/2008 3:49:24 AM

Talage
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If they wanted to? Sure.

^ lol the Duke thing was an example

[Edited on January 7, 2008 at 3:50 AM. Reason : .]

1/7/2008 3:50:16 AM

hammster
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Haha, no they don't. But they could, according to Talage

1/7/2008 3:50:32 AM

Talage
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Really, if you think of it in the terms of BYU being a business entity (which technically they are)...then its not a whole lot different from Sams Club charging me 15% more if i'm not a member. You ain't a member of the church? You get charged 100% more.

1/7/2008 3:53:27 AM

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moot

[Edited on January 7, 2008 at 6:52 AM. Reason : ]

1/7/2008 6:40:27 AM

jbtilley
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"How about charging methodists half as much tuition as non-methodists"


How about charging people from out of state more than what they charge people that are residents of the state the school is in?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young_University:
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"About 70% of student tuition is funded by LDS Church tithing funds, making tuition relatively less expensive than at similar private universities."


So, it kind of makes sense that members of the church, the people that are paying the tithing, would get the cheaper rate.

It even goes on to say...
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"About 98% of the 34,000 students at BYU are members of the LDS Church"


so I'm sure most of you wouldn't want to go there anyway.

[Edited on January 7, 2008 at 7:16 AM. Reason : I'm LDS]

1/7/2008 7:14:00 AM

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Its definitely legal. Plus, as was mentioned, most of the families who's kids decide to go there have been paying much more than the cost of tuition to the church. Mormons live by a strict 10% tithe, so its really only fair that they get the discount. Still, its a good value in terms of price of education at a private university, even if you are not a member. Many of its programs are highly ranked, and the atmosphere is actually very conducive to learning.

I think a non Mormon would have fun there, as long as they didn't feel like they needed to drink or smoke or do drugs to have fun. My reasoning for this, is that there is always things to do since people don't use alcohol as their source of fun.

1/7/2008 8:55:25 AM

Malagoat
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I don't understand how a person would just now be hearing about BYU......

1/7/2008 9:57:52 AM

Smath74
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hay guys I heard of this new college... it's call something like "Yale" or some mess... ever heard of it????

1/7/2008 10:00:31 AM

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Quote :
"I don't understand how a person would just now be hearing about BYU......"

1/7/2008 10:11:58 AM

hooksaw
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^^ Ha-ha!

Types of Colleges

http://www.aie.org/HighSchool/Choosing/typesofcolleges.cfm

http://www.collegeboard.com/student/csearch/where-to-start/2.html



[Edited on January 7, 2008 at 10:13 AM. Reason : .]

1/7/2008 10:12:27 AM

agentlion
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Quote :
"I don't understand how a person would just now be hearing about BYU......"

1/7/2008 10:14:28 AM

EmptyFriend
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"First of all, to be admitted, you have to be endorsed by your "ecclesiastical leader" as one who is worthy to attend."

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"About 98% of the 34,000 students at BYU are members of the LDS Church"

you don't have to be mormon to be admitted, but i'm sure it helps. my friend went there and said that a lot of the non-mormons are in the process of converting.

1/7/2008 11:46:50 AM

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They wont play in games on sundays.

1/7/2008 11:54:43 AM

terpball
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Their football team probably isn't Mormon - especially the4 black teammates. Mormons believe that all blacks burn in hell - or at least they "used to."

1/7/2008 11:56:08 AM

skankinande
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Haha, when I was forced to go to one there were two blks in the whole church. They would like you to believe that they have changed but deep down they still hate.

1/7/2008 12:58:49 PM

robster
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thats just wrong ... there is no hate whatsoever. Blacks just would rather go to other churches. Is that small bit of truth really that hard to believe. (obviously they still dont like the fact that at one point in time, the lds church did not give them rights to hold offices, much like those rules still in place for women)

Mormon service is boring. At least, compared to a black service where people are getting demons cast out and all that jazz

[Edited on January 7, 2008 at 1:17 PM. Reason : .]

1/7/2008 1:12:17 PM

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^^^actually up til the 1950's, mormons thought the only way blacks got into heaven were as slaves