Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
is still more poignant than ever. it's exposing Jay-Z's flaw while he's on the label. it's like so fucking gully. he really laid the Ether. this came to me while being stoned off bio-lights. 1/8/2008 3:48:25 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
ether is such an awesome song 1/8/2008 4:47:09 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "still more poignant than ever" |
lol1/8/2008 1:37:38 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
wtf are bio-lights 1/8/2008 2:57:48 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
how the fuck is THAT song calling Jay-Z out? And sorry, but Ether doesn't have shit of substance. It's a bunch of bullshit.
1. Gay-Z, Cockafella... really? 2. Jay wasn't 36 at the time 3. Rockerfeller didnt die of AIDS 4. Renegade wasn't Jay's song, it was Em's to begin with.
I mean, it was a nice diss track, but people saying that Nas won b/c of it ridiculous. He can kick his lil lies, Jay will kick his real facts. 1/8/2008 3:12:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Illmatic > anything Jay has ever or will ever do = Nas wins 1/8/2008 3:16:26 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
sure it is.... 1/8/2008 3:20:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
YOUR OPINION IS THE ONLY RIGHT ANSWER
but for shits and giggles i'd love to hear what jay's done thats better than illmatic
probably something where he sampled nas amirite] 1/8/2008 3:25:47 PM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "wtf are bio-lights" |
1/8/2008 3:46:36 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, shouldn't everyone think their opinion is right?
IMO, Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint are both better than Illmatic.
Yes, I know he sampled Nas' voice on Dead Presidents, but he was usin it wrong. He made it a hot line, Jay made it a hot song. 1/8/2008 3:49:18 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
ether is like the best diss song ever
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 3:56 PM. Reason : ranks up there with real motherfucking g's by easy e] 1/8/2008 3:56:15 PM |
chabnic All American 2965 Posts user info edit post |
ILLmatic was the shit, no question about it. 1/8/2008 3:58:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He made it a hot line, Jay made it a hot song" |
thats what sellouts say to justify biting and dickriding
the real question is which did jay do more:
- sample nas - quote bar after bar of biggie material]1/8/2008 3:58:54 PM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
cross-breed of northern lights. powerful strand of marijuana. incapacitating. mine was northen lights with B.O.G. Seeds from Amsterdam. powerful sh!t. 2 puffs and you're done. 1/8/2008 4:03:26 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
The original "Renegade" with Eminem and Royce the 5 9 is much better 1/8/2008 4:04:01 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
so he says a big verse? he's only big-ing up his brother biggin' up his borough, he that thorough, plus he knows his own flow is foolish. 1/8/2008 4:04:32 PM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
jay-z is the best !, but NaS has the classic album. it's like perfect. i can't say that for all hiphop albums. but NaS proved alot with that song. and you can't take that away from him. 1/8/2008 4:04:34 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
street dreams are made of these 1/8/2008 4:40:29 PM |
dman32md All American 961 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "how the fuck is THAT song calling Jay-Z out? And sorry, but Ether doesn't have shit of substance. It's a bunch of bullshit.
1. Gay-Z, Cockafella... really? 2. Jay wasn't 36 at the time 3. Rockerfeller didnt die of AIDS 4. Renegade wasn't Jay's song, it was Em's to begin with.
I mean, it was a nice diss track, but people saying that Nas won b/c of it ridiculous. He can kick his lil lies, Jay will kick his real facts" |
great job of picking out the 3 things that may have been fabricated...what about the fact that jay did reference jay all throughout reasonable doubt (his best album) ummm the fact that he was on JZ's dick (sophie fam to mc jay-z) the fact that he constantly bites biggie... imean the list goes on and on
i like jay, hes def the more successful rapper..but he cant c nas in substance, lyrics or a beef any day1/9/2008 4:32:32 PM |
dman32md All American 961 Posts user info edit post |
and dont forget the fact that ether was clearly the better diss, and then jay made another diss and he still loss..thats a zero hot diss every 2 song average 1/9/2008 4:34:51 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
so you're saying Ether was better than Takeover? and people slept on Supaugly. That shit had some heaters in there.
"since you infatuated with sayin that gay shit, guess you was kissin my dick when you was kissin that bitch"
"gotta hurt I'm your baby momma's favorite rapper"
If you want lyrics and substance, go listen to most of reasonable doubt, "a dream," "meet the parents," "song cry," "Blueprint," "never change," "coming of age," "beach chair," "soon you'll understand," "where have you been," "the streets" "december 4th," "moment of clarity," "lost one"... I could go on and on, but to say he doesn't have substance or lyrics is absurd. 1/10/2008 10:24:47 AM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
nas was and will always be the street poet
jay...
i mean i love them both for very different reasons....i dont know why it has to be one or the other
they're both nice in very diff. ways
even if they did go at eachother, that doesnt mean they're comparable style wise 1/10/2008 10:26:16 AM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
I just don't like nas' pension for bullshit math in his songs. 1/10/2008 10:30:46 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
I Freak Beats Slammin like Iron Sheet Jam like a tek, with Correct Technique1/10/2008 10:36:39 AM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
wasnt it iron sheik? 1/10/2008 12:48:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
iron SHEET? bwahahaha] 1/10/2008 12:51:59 PM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
Iron Sheik was a wrestler.
i think Jay-Z wins it cause he's like Jordan in the 4th quarter sometimes. NaS is like Allen Iverson. Jay-Z's like Kobe Bryant. and Biggie was like Michael Jordan. and that's the bottom line. 1/10/2008 1:23:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Jay is like Larry Johnson cause he gets paid out the ass for not doing anything worthwhile
meanwhile Nas is like Gerald Wallace...one of the best but everybody sleeps on him cause the television and radio dont tell everybody how good he is 1/10/2008 1:35:21 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
WOOPS, Iron Sheik is a character I was never familiar with
Phonetically, that shit is still tight 1/10/2008 2:06:27 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i still stand by my statement that nothing jay has done can fuck with Illmatic 1/10/2008 2:09:11 PM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
^ i don't disagree with that, but NaS was just not consistent enough. and that's the difference. jay was consistent and top notch at the same time. 1/10/2008 3:29:53 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i like reasonable doubt
but after that, imo jay was consistently mediocre...he was just as successful for his rhymes as he was for pharrell's abilities to make bitches dance in the club
jay is fine for playing in the club, but i'll be damned if i'm gonna have his shit playing in my spot
hell listen to DITC's The Graveyard...Jay is the worst of all of them in that track
but its all preference and personal choice] 1/10/2008 3:36:25 PM |
pureplayan All American 1684 Posts user info edit post |
anyone heard the supposed name of his new album? 1/10/2008 3:36:36 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
Nigger? 1/10/2008 3:41:04 PM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
the thing about Jay is how when his albumed dropped "American Gansta" time just stopped. it was like whoa this is new music that has content and worth buying. not too much music is like that anymore that i'd rather actually pay for it. 1/10/2008 5:02:49 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 6:53 PM. Reason : woops]
1/10/2008 6:52:14 PM |
spooner All American 1860 Posts user info edit post |
can't front on "blueprint", that's one of the best rap albums this decade. 1/10/2008 8:05:46 PM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
^ I like Hard Knock Life better than Blueprint. Hard Knock Life was just street level brillance. 1/10/2008 8:10:06 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
pssssh 1/10/2008 8:29:27 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
tupac trumps all 1/10/2008 8:43:13 PM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
I don't hate Jay, but I am here to agree with this:
Quote : | "Illmatic > anything Jay has ever or will ever do = Nas wins" |
1/11/2008 12:20:50 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
the smooth criminal on beat breaks never put me in your box if the shit eats tapes 1/11/2008 12:26:55 AM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
shit, to me, "It Was Written" is on par with "Reasonable Doubt"
those were both my fucking jams back in 96. 1/11/2008 12:28:18 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
it was written was dope...you got the gun track, track 4 or whatever thats crazy underrated..then a couple joints with havoc and p on them
plus you look at nas' compilations on other cats albums like on the infamous and the first verse of verbal intercourse off the cuban linx album...i dont know how cats can say jay is a better rapper unless they put more value on popularity instead of lyrical skills but its all personal preference 1/11/2008 12:31:46 AM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
IMO, Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint are both better than Illmatic. 1/11/2008 12:33:33 AM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
THEY SNATCHED OFF HIS ROLEX
SMACKED HIS BITCH SILLY 1/11/2008 12:34:50 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
it was written was the best, cocksuckers 1/11/2008 12:34:55 AM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
you have an absolute fetish with calling people faggots or cocksuckers.
it's a little weird. 1/11/2008 12:35:55 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
nah, your fetish over me is weird 1/11/2008 12:48:18 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
im a addict for sneakers 20s of buddah and bitches with beepers 1/11/2008 12:48:48 AM |