Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/17/border.fence/index.html
interesting read. I'm on the side of the land owners. The government cannot force you to put up a fence on your property. And I especially don't like Michael Chertoff, the Secretary of Homeland Security, arrogance in this matter. 1/17/2008 4:21:45 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Constitution , what's that? 1/17/2008 4:32:08 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Its like the old testament. It applied back then but not today. 1/17/2008 4:40:13 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
If the landowner doesnt want the fence on his land just put his land on the otherside of the fence. Solves the problem. So then he wouldnt have a fence in his backyard, just the front. 1/17/2008 4:40:16 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^ [buries face in palm] 1/17/2008 4:43:02 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
If the government is willing to pay for any land they're going to use, I don't see a problem. If they just expect to take the land though and build shit on it, and for the landowners to simply comply (just because) they can get fucked.
If they didn't act like arrogant dickbags when it came to property rights people might be more willing to reason with them, but now they might have a fight in court and breed a lot of resentment in a lot of land-owning tax-paying citizens. This will probably only end badly. 1/17/2008 5:15:40 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If the government is willing to pay for any land they're going to use, I don't see a problem. If they just expect to take the land though and build shit on it, and for the landowners to simply comply (just because) they can get fucked." |
read the article. No way this woman is going to hand over her land for $$$. Its her family legacy dating back to the late 1700's1/17/2008 5:27:42 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
fuck the government. 1/17/2008 5:35:52 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
The border fence is a good idea. The border fence will not eliminate illegal immigration, but it should slow it. Just like locking your car door to slow or deter thieves from taking it.
Besides, don't these border residents want to keep illegal immigrants out? Or at the least, keep strangers from another country off your lawn? Or am I the only one that see's it that way? I don't see why these people are so opposed to a fence. It's probably a combination of anti-government mentality and pro-illegal sentiment. 1/17/2008 6:31:15 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "read the article. No way this woman is going to hand over her land for $$$. Its her family legacy dating back to the late 1700's" |
So her family was originally Mexican...
1/17/2008 6:53:41 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^^so if you lived on the edge of raleigh and the government demanded that they were going to run an ugly barbed wire fence on your property to keep the cary folk out, you'd be ok with that? 1/17/2008 6:55:04 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
^ Heck yeah. Keep those Yankees out! 1/17/2008 6:56:38 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Besides, don't these border residents want to keep illegal immigrants out? Or at the least, keep strangers from another country off your lawn?" |
that's when u get your shotgun out1/17/2008 6:59:20 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Well, if they don't like the look of the fence, maybe they can provide prettier options. Like one of these,
Or one of these,
Just add a few razors to the top and it should provide form and function. Come on. Our government sucks at new ideas. They can't ever think up good ideas. I thought of this idea just after a few minutes on the toilet. 1/17/2008 7:06:24 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
it could be a wall of gold but who would want barbed wire running across their property? 1/17/2008 7:08:12 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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Great Wall of China anybody 1/17/2008 8:04:52 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
seems like eminent domain actually might apply here. 1/18/2008 2:28:14 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
smeone needs to tell the dumbasses in Washington that Mexicans have ladders, and shovels. 1/18/2008 12:24:33 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The government cannot force you to put up a fence on your property." |
eminent domain.1/18/2008 2:02:26 PM |
Snewf All American 63365 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The border fence is a good idea. The border fence will not eliminate illegal immigration, but it should slow it. Just like locking your car door to slow or deter thieves from taking it. " |
bullshit
700 miles of fence on a 2200 mile stretch is not going to do shit
this fence isn't like locking your card door its like rolling the window up 1/3 of the way and leaving it unlocked1/18/2008 2:10:46 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Nick
I don't understand why you hate the Freedom Wall.
It will create more jobs.
Clearly. 1/18/2008 2:19:01 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
This is true. Just think of all the illegal immigrants that will be employed to build it! 1/18/2008 2:22:40 PM |
Snewf All American 63365 Posts user info edit post |
Penn and Teller built an example of the wall that will be erected with illegal labor they then asked these same laborers to, in teams of two, climb over, go under or go through the wall
all told it took EACH group about an extra 2 minutes 1/18/2008 2:37:21 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "someone needs to tell the dumbasses in Washington that Mexicans have ladders, and shovels." |
lol, thats the first thing you've said on here that was 100% correct
^ yep... they lolled
[Edited on January 18, 2008 at 2:43 PM. Reason : !]1/18/2008 2:42:33 PM |
Snewf All American 63365 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Can we simply abandon an enterprise because it is a problem for a particular individual?" Chertoff told CNN. "I don't think I can accept that."" |
I disagree with Michael Chertoff at a fundamental level
fucking communitarian bastard1/18/2008 2:47:54 PM |