As someone who worked for almost a year on the campaign, I am surprised that he's already dropped out. Almost sad...

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" (CNN) -- Former Sen. John Edwards is dropping out of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, CNN has learned. Former Sen. John Edwards addresses a campaign rally in Springfield, Missouri, Monday. Edwards has told top advisers about his decision. It is expected he will announce it at a speech in New Orleans, Louisiana, at 1 p.m. Wednesday."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/30/edwards/index.html

1/30/2008 9:38:30 AM

sorry, but I don't think the man has any business being President.

1/30/2008 9:40:04 AM

plz someone embed "Another One Bites the Dust"

1/30/2008 9:40:04 AM

how he got this far blows my mind

1/30/2008 9:41:59 AM

Good.

He fucking sucks. I'd rather see Hillary in office than a fucking tarheel faggot.

1/30/2008 9:42:28 AM

I liked Edwards, but I think this is great news, if he endorses Obama and his supporters largely go over to Obama.

i'm betting he saw the numbers and wanted to drop out before Super Tuesday so he would pull a Nader on Obama and split his vote

[Edited on January 30, 2008 at 9:51 AM. Reason : .]

1/30/2008 9:43:38 AM

He would've been the "king maker" come convention time because of holding the delegates that he had, even though its a small number....

He might not endorse anyone, but definitely Obama over Clinton.

1/30/2008 9:59:24 AM

he better endorse obama

1/30/2008 10:01:25 AM

You know

He'd probably endorse someone who he thinks is going to win....and nod towards him as the new veep.

1/30/2008 10:13:18 AM

I wonder which of the 'Two Americas' he will retire to....

1/30/2008 10:14:29 AM

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"I think this is great news, if he endorses Obama and his supporters largely go over to Obama."

1/30/2008 10:21:54 AM

this is the best news i have heard all day...this motherfucker should have dropped out 4 years ago

[Edited on January 30, 2008 at 10:36 AM. Reason : ^^amen]

1/30/2008 10:35:23 AM

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"how he got this far blows my mind"

In fairness, he had articulated his vision for America better than the other two main contenders . . . he just had the misfortune of being a white male in a contest that has the Democrats tripping over each other to prove who is the least prejudiced.

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"I wonder which of the 'Two Americas' he will retire to...."

gg

1/30/2008 10:43:59 AM

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"In fairness, he had articulated his vision for America better than the other two main contenders . . . he just had the misfortune of being a white male in a contest that has the Democrats tripping over each other to prove who is the least prejudiced."

Seriously. I don't what the fuck is going on with Obama and Clinton.

I liked Edwards.

1/30/2008 10:55:08 AM

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"a fucking tarheel faggot."

You do realize he went to NC State too, right?

1/30/2008 10:58:00 AM

He's said on record multiple times where his loyalties lie.

and it ain't us.

1/30/2008 10:59:47 AM

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"plz someone embed 'Another One Bites the Dust'"

1/30/2008 11:00:02 AM

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"He's said on record multiple times where his loyalties lie. and it ain't us."

i seriously hope this isn't an actual issue for some people.

he got a damned Textile Technology degree from NC State, then went to UNC law school. Then he made millions being a lawyer, not a "textile technologist" or whatever. Where the hell would your allegiances lie after that?

1/30/2008 11:04:08 AM

nc state

1/30/2008 11:05:46 AM

I think it will be interesting to see where Edwards supporters go - I'm not sure that its clear cut that they will go to Obama. (obviously who he endorces will have a major impact).

But if you look at the exit polls from SC, Edward's strongest Demographics were 65+, $100,000+ Income, and White Men, which were also demographics where Clinton was stronger and Obama was weaker.

1/30/2008 11:13:25 AM

Does anyone really think he will get on as VP for either clinton or obama? I just can't imagine either of them going for that....

1/30/2008 11:55:39 AM

^agreed, i dont think either of them want him

furthermore, i can't imagine edwards going down the road of taking a VP slot again

1/30/2008 11:57:39 AM

honestly i would rather john edwards be named attorney general

1/30/2008 1:49:39 PM

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"i seriously hope this isn't an actual issue for some people."

it's a half joke. There are many more "real" reasons that I would never vote for that sack of shit.

1/30/2008 1:52:11 PM

Like what?

1/30/2008 3:09:41 PM

All is lost.

JK, Edwards sucks ass.

1/30/2008 3:22:46 PM

over under on when Supplanter hits this thread with excuses for his shitty track record supporting candidates

1/30/2008 3:24:18 PM

20 says he'll support Obama for AG

1/30/2008 3:26:44 PM

ill take over 10 plz for $20. put it on my tab keep.

going back to lurking in The Soap Box.

1/30/2008 3:29:08 PM

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"sorry, but I don't think the man has any business being President."

Yeah, Edwards is the guy that doesn't have any business being president.

[Edited on January 30, 2008 at 3:44 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2008 3:42:17 PM

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"In fairness, he had articulated his vision for America better than the other two main contenders . . . he just had the misfortune of being a white male in a contest that has the Democrats tripping over each other to prove who is the least prejudiced. "

...and the misfortune of having a really shitty vision for America


...and the misfortune of never having really done dick in politics besides campaign a lot

1/30/2008 3:46:47 PM

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"Edwards is the guy that doesn't have any business being president"

I agree with DiamondAce, Edwards has zero business being President, and his own party has let him know that

1/30/2008 3:53:16 PM

Whew, about time.

1/30/2008 4:00:07 PM

He would have made a much better president than Bush in my opinion, and he still may make a decent vice president although I have nothing riding on whether he ends up in that role or not, his campaign changed the race.

He made health care and poverty issues in this campaign. And on his way out got both Hillary & Obama to pledge to make poverty big parts of their campaigns.

I'm proud to have worked for his campaign for the ideas & issues it put out there. And I believe someone guessed right, I will now be in the Obama camp. With Hillary VS Obama their main themes are Experience VS Change. Edwards was a change guy, so I think many of his supporters will drift Obama's way. Obama was the first to follow Edwards on making health care an issue during the campaign cycle. Also Edwards apologized for voting for the Iraq War, Obama was against it from the start, and I think that puts them closer together than Hillary who stood by her pro war vote.

[Edited on January 30, 2008 at 4:13 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2008 4:10:08 PM

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"Obama was against it from the start, and I think that puts them closer together than Hillary who stood by her pro war vote. "

Obama wasn't there at the start

I'd definitely put Obama and Clinton pretty close together, with Edwards markedly more to the left.

1/30/2008 4:14:33 PM

^^ goodness knows we need to be for "change." I don't care what that "change" actually is. I just really want "change." There is nothing better than "change."

1/30/2008 5:51:48 PM

Can't really get any worse than it is now.

1/30/2008 6:10:36 PM

^^just because you haven't bothered to look into the issues regarding the democratic candidates doesn't mean others haven't.

[Edited on January 30, 2008 at 6:11 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2008 6:10:56 PM

Bye to Rudy

1/30/2008 6:34:08 PM

dude. what is there to look at? other than the word "change," there isn't much they are proposing, other than blanket socialism

1/30/2008 6:47:30 PM

Giving everyone a base amount of medical care is not socialism. Trying to tilt the odds a little bit towards the poorest in your society is not socialism, it's a step towards social equality.

If you'd step back and ignore the stupid republican rhetoric on the issues you'd realize that just possibly the 'free market' isn't really so good unless you're at the top. You can argue that taking care of all of your citizens, as opposed to just the wealthiest or poorest is socialism, but then you're just a tool and don't know what you're talking about.

1/30/2008 6:53:25 PM

social equality? anybody right now who works a job pretty much has social equality

1/30/2008 6:59:02 PM

so is this inevitably going to lock the nomination up for hillary?

1/30/2008 6:59:36 PM

^^^

It's not full socialism...it's merely a step towards socialism.

1/30/2008 7:02:45 PM

On NPR they were talking about now that Edwards is out, how do the two remain candidates stack up on economy issues. They said Obama was slightly more libertarian in that he wanted more money to go to the poor (and to some degree the middle class too I think), but wanted to leave it up to those on how to spend it, where Hillary wanted funds to help in the same areas but with a more mandated approach on how to spend it.

1/30/2008 7:14:05 PM

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"Giving everyone a base amount of medical care is not socialism. Trying to tilt the odds a little bit towards the poorest in your society is not socialism, it's a step towards social equality. If you'd step back and ignore the stupid republican rhetoric on the issues you'd realize that just possibly the 'free market' isn't really so good unless you're at the top. You can argue that taking care of all of your citizens, as opposed to just the wealthiest or poorest is socialism, but then you're just a tool and don't know what you're talking about."

It sounds communistic to me. However, exploitation of capitalism isn't much better either. The question is, which democratic candidate has the best chance of unifying all democrats from liberal to moderate to vote against the republicans? Without a strong and secure voting base, the democrats will lose again to the republicans due to votes across party lines. Such is an instance where I believe that the democrats will have put themselves in with either a woman or a black man as their candidate. Their candidate selection may be progressive, however I don't see their politics as such.

In these times, I believe the best candidate is the one that most completely supports freedom, however, government isn't keen on this issue; freedom is a government's enemy.

1/30/2008 7:21:18 PM

^^ if the gov't is handing out money (which they generally have no business doing, but that's another subject), i have no problem with mandating how that taxpayer money is spent, especially since the people they're giving it to have already demonstrated in many cases that they aren't good at making financial decisions on their own.

1/30/2008 7:32:45 PM

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"If you'd step back and ignore the stupid republican rhetoric on the issues you'd realize that just possibly the 'free market' isn't really so good unless you're at the top."

Unfortunately, the "free market" here isn't free. it is so encumbered with regulation and gov't meddling that it can't possibly succeed. And then fools like you come in and point out that it's "not working" so we should help it along by introducing more of the problem.

1/30/2008 10:16:22 PM

aha

the local news crews are annoying the hell out of John Edwards

1/30/2008 11:06:06 PM

hes at the unc game now wearing unc blue... i think nc state should destroy any records of him ever going here

1/31/2008 7:45:36 PM