DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
well it looks like Indiana basketball could be facing some major NCAA sanctions due to Kelvin Sampson's dumbass phone call recruiting techniques.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3243325
Quote : | "The NCAA sent a notice of allegations to Indiana University last Friday detailing major violations in its men's basketball program, multiple sources told ESPN.com.
Larry MacIntyre, assistant vice president for university communications at Indiana University, confirmed to ESPN.com that the school did receive documentation from the NCAA last week.
The Associated Press reported on Tuesday night that the school will make the allegations public on Wednesday. University trustees president Stephen Ferguson told AP that school officials this week reviewed the report, but that the NCAA is not expected to make its ruling until this summer.
"There won't be a hearing till this June," Ferguson told AP. "It's just been reviewed, and I think everyone is analyzing it now."
MacIntyre said he was unable to provide any more information. But MacIntyre said he was working on providing a copy of the documentation after ESPN.com requested one through the Freedom of Information Act.
But ESPN.com has learned over the last week that the NCAA uncovered new information since Indiana self-reported violations under second-year head coach Kelvin Sampson in October.
Sampson had been sanctioned after making impermissible phone calls while he was the coach at Oklahoma. Indiana then revealed more bad calls while Sampson was at IU. Multiple sources told ESPN.com that the NCAA was looking into whether Sampson did not tell the truth about those calls, resulting in the allegations of major violations.
This new information that helped result in a major violations tag could leave the Hoosiers' season, and Sampson's career, under a cloud of uncertainty.
ESPN.com made multiple efforts to reach Indiana athletic director Rick Greenspan over the past week and he never returned calls. Sampson didn't return a message Tuesday.
Indiana (20-3, No. 12 ESPN/USA Today, No. 13 AP) will have 90 days to respond to the letter. The committee on infractions has a hearing in April, but because of the 90-day window the hearing isn't expected to take place until the June meeting. That means Indiana might not have closure on the matter until late into the summer.
"The report came out in October, the university filed its response and there's really not been anything happening [on the board] in the last five months," Ferguson told AP. "There have not been any discussions."
A postseason ban for the Hoosiers would come into play only if IU decided to self-impose such a measure since the committee on infractions won't meet until June. According to multiple sources, a postseason ban would only occur if there were an issue with the eligibility of any current student athletes, which ESPN.com has been told isn't an issue yet.
The NCAA investigation came after Indiana made an announcement in October that Sampson had made 100 impermissible phone calls while he was on probation for illicit calls he made while he was the coach at Oklahoma from 2000 to 2006. During that time, he made 577 impermissible calls.
Sampson was penalized by Oklahoma by not being allowed to travel for recruiting. Indiana imposed the same penalty in his first season at IU. He was also banned from making calls and going off campus to recruit for a calendar year. He wasn't banned from text messaging since it was allowed during that year. But it was during that year that he made the impermissible calls.
Sampson wasn't allowed to take part in three-way calls, originated by anyone on the staff. In October, Indiana made public that former assistant Rob Senderoff initiated three-way calls. During the October news conference, Indiana said that Sampson said he was unaware he was participating on a three-way call. Senderoff, who was forced to resign, said he didn't let Sampson know he was on a three-way call, either. Prior to being forced out, Senderoff was told he couldn't recruit off campus for a year or make a phone call. The same restriction was put on Dan Dakich, who has since been moved up to an assistant position from director of basketball operations.
Sampson was hit with more penalties by the school, forfeiting a $500,000 raise, and a scholarship was taken away from the team.
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2/13/2008 10:36:20 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
they should've kept bobby knight. he may have thrown chairs, but commit recruiting violations, he did not. 2/13/2008 10:42:14 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I just dont understand how the same guy can get caught doing the same things over and over again 2/13/2008 10:48:53 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
he's a dumbass. 2/13/2008 10:54:19 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
just look at him
2/13/2008 10:54:49 AM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
I'm waiting to see when someone gonna post some comment about him being lumbee. 2/13/2008 10:58:15 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148448 Posts user info edit post |
2/13/2008 11:02:37 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
What is stupid is that these calls IMO are in no way as serious as the shit Reggie Bush and Maurice Clarrett pulled, but of course USC and Ohio State get to keep their national championships. Yeah those violations involved only single players and Sampson is a head coach, but it is straight bullshit that USC and OSU are not receiving penalties equal to what IU will get or what Oklahoma got for the Rhett Bomar stuff.
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 11:59 AM. Reason : sd] 2/13/2008 11:58:56 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
so you want to take away their national title from 87? 2/13/2008 12:24:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148448 Posts user info edit post |
might as well take away Isaiah's and Scott May's titles also 2/13/2008 12:26:53 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
OMG he's a lumbee! 2/13/2008 12:30:05 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so you want to take away their national title from 87?" |
WTF are you talking about? I am saying that IU will get penalized (scholarships or whatever) for a, IMO, less severe violation than what USC or OSU saw even though what Bush and Clarett did were 10X worse. I still think that OSU and USC should be stripped off their national championships in football because they had ineligible players playing in those games.
I just think their is a double standard with some schools. I never said shit about 1987 and Bob Knight.2/13/2008 2:35:43 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
So let me get this straight. Sampson and two assistants were banned from traveling and initiating phone calls for recruiting purposes for a year? Who in the hell was doing the recruiting that year? I mean, I realize it's normal to have 5 to 6 assistant coaches, but still. How were they able to recruit anyone, much less Eric Gordon? Unless swaying Gordon was a large portion of those 100 phone calls...hmmm
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 3:39 PM. Reason : asdf] 2/13/2008 3:38:43 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
the traveling ban was one put in place by IU, not the ncaa. 2/13/2008 4:48:44 PM |
State Oz All American 1897 Posts user info edit post |
Bobby Knight to Indiana
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 6:42 PM. Reason : dreams] 2/13/2008 6:42:01 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
The NCAA will be the next to get interrogated by Congress since basically nothing at this point is being done about the Reggie Bush situation. 2/14/2008 11:00:37 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7824932?MSNHPHMA
Sources: Sampson won't coach this year by Jeff Goodman
Come Saturday, Indiana will have a new head men's basketball coach.
In the wake of NCAA allegations that Kelvin Sampson committed recruiting violations and then lied about them to investigators from both Indiana and the NCAA, Sampson was informed early Thursday that he will not be coaching the Hoosiers for at least the remainder of this season, numerous sources told FOXSports.com.
The Indiana administration is expected to announce the move on Friday, when the university's self-imposed seven-day investigation period ends.
The team met with athletic director Rick Greenspan on Thursday night. Almost the entire team left en masse after the meeting about 7:45 p.m. and declined comment as they got into their cars and left the parking lot.
At Assembly Hall, Sampson spent the morning in his office, presumably looking at tape of Northwestern before leaving the building at about 2:15 p.m. About 45 minutes later, players arrived for a team meeting. Athletic department spokesman J.D. Campbell said players were there for a compliance meeting that had been scheduled on the Hoosiers' off-day.
Initially, two sources told FOXSports.com that Sampson would be immediately terminated. However, one of the sources later backtracked, saying Sampson would either be fired or suspended. The second source steadfastly maintains that Sampson will be fired.
"He's not lasting past Friday," the source told FOXSports.com.
When asked to confirm whether Sampson is done at Indiana, the school's director of media relations, J.D. Campbell, told FOXSports.com, "I don't know that to be true."
Campbell also said no official announcement was currently scheduled for Friday.
All signs point to Indiana assistant Dan Dakich, a former Hoosier player and assistant coach under Bob Knight, taking the reins for the remainder of the season.
University officials and athletic department officials did meet Thursday afternoon. President Michael McRobbie had a lunch meeting with university counsel Dorothy Frapwell and faculty representative Bruce Jaffee in the president's office. Frapwell and Jaffee were two of the three people asked to conduct the school's second investigation into the allegations. The third, athletic director Rick Greenspan, could not be seen through the office's glass doors, and Frapwell and Jaffee left through a back entrance to avoid reporters.
Antoher trustee, Philip Eskew Jr., told The Associated Press he had been notified by e-mail that Indiana would have an announcement on Sampson's status Friday but did not have details. MacIntyre said late Thursday afternoon nothing had yet been scheduled but called an announcement likely.
The move comes just eight days after the NCAA announced its findings that Sampson had committed five major rules violations. The NCAA alleged that Sampson placed improper phone calls to recruits, then provided false and misleading information about those calls to both the university and NCAA investigators.
In response, university president Michael McRobbie said the school would conduct a new investigation into the accusations.
A school investigation last year revealed that Sampson and his assistants had made more than 100 impermissible calls, but the school had previously contended that the violations were secondary in nature.
Sampson was already on NCAA probation when he took the Indiana job for making 577 improper phone calls between 2000 and 2004 while the coach at Oklahoma.
The scandal comes in the midst of the Hoosiers' strongest season since losing to Maryland in the 2002 national title game. With Tuesday's 77-68 win over Purdue, Indiana improved to 22-4 overall (11-2 in the Big Ten) and is currently ranked No. 15 in the Associated Press poll.
The win also pulled the Hoosiers to within a half-game of the Boilermakers in the Big Ten race, but is far more likely to be remembered as the final game of Sampson's brief tenure in Bloomington.
According to the coach's contract signed in April 2006, Indiana pays Sampson an annual base salary of $500,000. The contract runs through the next five seasons.
Sampson's deal includes termination clauses for violations of university or NCAA rules that eliminate the payments, but two Indianapolis attorneys have told The Associated Press that firing Sampson now may not be enough to prevent the school from paying out at least $2.5 million.
The university has until May 8 to respond to the NCAA, and a hearing has been set for June 14 in Seattle. A decision is expected sometime in July. Proven major violations come with penalties that include teams being excluded from postseason tournaments. 2/21/2008 11:40:50 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
suspending him for the remainder of the year?
that's fucking weak, IU. 2/21/2008 11:47:47 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
I foresee indiana imposing sanctions on itself, destroying its basketball program for 20 years. 2/21/2008 11:49:12 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
it'd be like us in the 80s, only more. 2/22/2008 3:25:38 AM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
for phone calls? wtf? 2/22/2008 8:51:48 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Sampson's alleged violations are actually much more serious that what they actually got on Jimmy V. He knowingly violated NCAA recruiting rules that provide a clear recruiting advantage, was sanctioned, continued to violate the same rules, and covered it up. While you might not think phone call limits are a big deal, he intentionally went directly against the NCAA.
Jimmy V's violations were actions by his players and not directly under his control. What brought Jimmy V down had little to do with the NCAA violations themselves. It had more to do with a poor institutional structure in the athletics department, athletics-academia tension, and bringing in several of the wrong type of player for NC State (and obviously the University's harsh reaction to bad PR in that climate). 2/22/2008 10:03:32 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.firecoachsampson.com/ 2/22/2008 10:44:53 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
some of the players are threatening to quit if he is fired, including Gordon
http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/10659277 2/22/2008 10:52:18 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
damn....thats pretty ballsy do they lose their schollys if they quit?
i doubth the players really back it up 2/22/2008 10:55:46 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Isn't Gordon "quitting" at the end of the year anyway? 2/22/2008 10:59:56 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Gordon doesn't care. He'll be in the NBA next year. Same with D.J. White. He's a senior. 2/22/2008 11:01:40 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Supposedly Indiana has calmed down the players and Sampson will be out today. 2/22/2008 4:02:33 PM |
kinetix All American 3122 Posts user info edit post |
he's gone with $750k in his pocket 2/22/2008 6:44:26 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
so what is so wrong about making a 3 way call...i dont get why a coach is not allowed to call a potential player 2/22/2008 6:48:14 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
indiana is stupid for hiring him in the first place. sure he's a good coach, but what made them think he wouldn't do that same shit again? 2/22/2008 7:10:28 PM |
ncsuREMY9 All American 1805 Posts user info edit post |
the university just bought him out for 750K. 6 players skipped the first practice under the interim coach...Gordon wasn't one of them
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080223/ap_on_sp_co_ne/bkc_t25_indiana_sampson_22 2/22/2008 8:46:02 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
it sucks that this guy had to get fired...he didnt do anything wrong in my opinion 2/22/2008 10:02:03 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
please stay out of sports talk, dnl. 2/22/2008 10:05:59 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
if i were beardawg i would suspend you for that and delete this post and ^ post 2/22/2008 10:06:39 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
if only. 2/22/2008 10:09:16 PM |
PimpinHonda All American 4331 Posts user info edit post |
what are the chances of him being hired at a different university now? d2? 2/23/2008 2:51:35 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
slim, for awhile at least
he knowingly broke the rules, twice
that should set off alarms in manyyyyy peoples heads anytime his name is brought up 2/23/2008 3:32:36 PM |
Talage All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Oh I'm sure he can find some school or another that will hire him. He just won't be making much money at all and will have a very strict, probably year-by-year, contract. 2/23/2008 4:10:29 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i hear wake tech is looking for a basketball coach. 2/23/2008 4:55:40 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^^Didn't stop UGA from hiring Jim Harrick. 2/23/2008 6:53:35 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Sampson to the bucks as an assistant] 5/2/2008 5:07:33 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
he's a good coach, he'll find his place in basketball. probably not with the NCAA for a long time but the NBA doesn't care about cheating. 5/2/2008 5:09:22 PM |
NjCeSwU Suspended 1029 Posts user info edit post |
Is there even a way to cheat in the NBA? 5/2/2008 5:23:56 PM |