TULIPlovr All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
"Americans" meaning "living on the American continent."
One catch: no Presidents allowed on the list.
This is a very difficult question to narrow down to five. I've asked it of a lot of people, and the answers are always interesting.
Mine:
Jonathan Edwards Ben Franklin Eli Whitney/Henry Ford/ Wright Brothers/Bill Gates...pick one. John D. Rockefeller Martin Luther King, Jr.
I tried to avoid groupings in a single half or full century, but it's tough. No matter what, you're gonna end up leaving out folks that are hugely important.
[Edited on February 16, 2008 at 6:16 PM. Reason : a] 2/16/2008 6:15:21 PM |
UberCool All American 3457 Posts user info edit post |
Ben Franklin Robert E Lee or John C Calhoun Thomas Edison
having trouble picking the other two at the moment 2/16/2008 6:32:33 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
I'm assuming you're meaning United States American and not the entire continent
Ben Franklin Thomas Edison Henry Ford Thomas Paine Elvis 2/16/2008 6:44:12 PM |
TULIPlovr All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
No, I mean anyone on the entire continent since 1500...since both the title, and one of my answers, refer to a time before the United States existed. 2/16/2008 6:48:43 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Well, Jonathan Edwards played a really important role in shaping the culture of the United States so I wasn't sure. Either way I'm pretty sure I'm too ignorant to know anyone outside of the US who was influential. 2/16/2008 6:53:23 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Wilkes Booth Rockefeller Nixon Franklin Ford 2/16/2008 7:01:12 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Abraham Lincoln Ben Franklin Thomas Jefferson Venustiano Carranza Garza Benito Juarez
[Edited on February 16, 2008 at 7:09 PM. Reason : .] 2/16/2008 7:04:36 PM |
392 Suspended 2488 Posts user info edit post |
do you mean "influential" in a positive way?
or in a "time magazine's man of the year" way?
also, do you mean influential americans that influenced america, or the world? 2/16/2008 7:06:03 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
Benjamin Franklin Jackie Robinson Henry Ford Thomas Edison John Marshall 2/16/2008 7:13:32 PM |
TULIPlovr All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
I mean "influential" in a Time's Man of the Year type way - positive or negative.
And their influence can be just in America or all over the world, though obviously an effect all over the world is more influence than just shaping your own country/culture. 2/16/2008 7:29:43 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
gates mlk elvis ford franklin 2/16/2008 8:26:45 PM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
How does Jackie Robinson or Elvis make anyones list? 2/16/2008 8:26:59 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
disney 2/16/2008 8:27:11 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
George Bush (for not forcing barbara to abort) Barbara Bush (for not listening to George on abortion matters) their off spring (you know the rest) 2/16/2008 8:27:52 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
gates, franklin, and ford are must haves. Maybe Alexander Graham Bell.
Then Id go with oprah. 2/16/2008 8:29:58 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier forever changed the makeup of sports in this country, and Americans take great interest in professional and college sports. 2/16/2008 8:38:55 PM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
being the first person of color to play baseball != breaking the color barrier.
Jackie is great, but be realistic. 2/16/2008 8:41:23 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
I am, that's my he's on my list... 2/16/2008 8:43:43 PM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
You suck at lists and typing. 2/16/2008 9:30:00 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Thomas Jefferson Andrew Jackson Abraham Lincoln FDR Nixon 2/16/2008 9:31:11 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "One catch: no Presidents allowed on the list." |
2/16/2008 9:47:37 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
Patrick Henry Alexander Hamilton Walt Disney Harriet Beecher Stowe Robert Oppenheimer
Runner ups: Einstein, MLK, Elvis, Henry Ford, Mark Twain, Sam Walton, John Winthrop, Booker T. Washington, Oprah Winfrey, John Marshall, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Benjamin Cardozo, and last, but not least, Babe Ruth.
[Edited on February 16, 2008 at 10:00 PM. Reason : l] 2/16/2008 9:54:16 PM |
Socks`` All American 11792 Posts user info edit post |
Hernando De Soto? Hernando Cortes? Americo Vespucci?
Come the fuck on people. How does an entertainer like Elvis or a preacher like Edwards get top billing over the man who nammed the fucking continent.
FUCK!! 2/17/2008 12:45:35 AM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Faraday Einstein Dewey Reagan Weird Al Yankovic
I don't know it's a stupid question. 2/17/2008 12:53:10 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
DYLAN DYLAN DYLAN DYLAN DYLAN 2/17/2008 2:57:43 AM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
Jimi 2/17/2008 3:41:51 AM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hernando De Soto? Hernando Cortes? Americo Vespucci?
Come the fuck on people. How does an entertainer like Elvis or a preacher like Edwards get top billing over the man who nammed the fucking continent.
FUCK!!" |
Well, for one, Amerigo Vespucci wasn't even famous enough for you to spell his name right. But all ad hominem attacks aside, what did he really do? He took two trips to America, did a bit of cartography in South America, and then he wrote some letters about it. He wasn't even the most significant explorer of the period (his first voyage was before 1500, btw)--maybe not even in the top 5. He was just the one people decided to name the continent after. But he didn't do anything much that wouldn't have been accomplished by someone else in his absence.
I haven't thought much on my own top 5, and I doubt Elvis or Jonathan Edwards would make my list, but I'd certainly rank them higher than Vespucci.2/17/2008 6:19:22 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
I put Elvis on my list because he basically created pop culture in America. He's from the late 50's(?) early 60's and he's still one of the number 1 selling artists every year. That's just ridiculous. He's like what The Beatles did for rock, except he did it for all of music, some tv, and some movies. That's pretty impressive. Plus, you don't even have to say his last name for people to know who you're talking about. That's a pretty good sign of fame. 2/17/2008 6:30:49 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Ben Franklin (American Renaissance man)
Abraham Lincoln (Emancipation)
Teddy Roosevelt (panama canal, Imperialism)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (WWII)
John F. Kennedy (Prevented nuclear war) 2/17/2008 1:27:10 PM |
furikuchan All American 687 Posts user info edit post |
Hard to narrow it down. The list would include Rockefeller, Ford, Carnegie, Morgan, possibly their modern-day equivalents in Sam Walton and Bill Gates. When your money is still making insane amounts more money decades after you have died, which will be the case for Walton and Gates, you are influential. 2/17/2008 1:51:04 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
Alexander Hamilton wielded enormous influence for a man who wasn't President -- arguably even more so than Ben Franklin, at least after the country was founded. His decisions, regardless of whether you like them or not, were instrumental in making the United States so powerful (standing army, economic policies, etc).
Heny Ford revolutionized not just the automobile, but industry as a whole.
George C. Marshall or Robert Oppenheimer, because both were instrumental in winning the Second World War and in determining what the world would be like after it (albeit for different reasons).
Thomas Edison, for his inventions' many contributions to economics (stock ticker), entertainment (kinetoscope, etc), and power and light. 2/17/2008 6:35:21 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ben Franklin (American Renaissance man)
Abraham Lincoln (Emancipation)
Teddy Roosevelt (panama canal, Imperialism)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (WWII)
John F. Kennedy (Prevented nuclear war)" |
Sandsanta - does not follow directions but works well with others
no presidents allowed on the list2/17/2008 7:19:38 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
So who else went to Google and typed in influential Americans and clicked on the first link? Haha, I know I did. 2/17/2008 7:53:28 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Ben Franklin Thomas Edison Henry Ford Robert E Lee Martin Luther King, Jr. 2/17/2008 9:38:03 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
hahahaha
Sorry!
I did not R read.
kek 2/17/2008 10:02:28 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
Henry Ford - He didnt just create modern transportation as we know it....he created the ideas that every manufacturing plant in the world follows.
Ben Franklin - Without him, there is no America...we lose the Revolutionary war and we are all British.
Robert E Lee
Elvis
The guy who invented Baseball (cant remember his name or if he was from America)
and also Steven Seigal....or Chuck Norris..which ever would win in a Cage Fight 2/18/2008 12:14:43 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
christopher columbus - DURRRRRR, hello did everyone forget? cant have america without the man who invented it
Abraham lincon - not only did he beat the british during the civil war, but he crafted in the declaration of independence, the most awe inspiring piece of oral document ever
Micheal jordan - arguably the most famous person ever made, micheal jordan redifined grateness and has set a new standard for the fadeaway jumper
Stan Lee - from bugs bunny to yugio, stan lee brough the world of animation to the level it had not been to since the roman empire
Jeff - nobody knows much about jeff, but he gave it his all, allegedly 2/18/2008 1:35:39 AM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "christopher columbus - DURRRRRR, hello did everyone forget? cant have america without the man who invented it " |
Technically he didn't really fit the original criteria of living on the American continent.2/18/2008 1:37:39 AM |
Chief All American 3402 Posts user info edit post |
nor the original title criteria.
1492. 2/18/2008 2:03:53 AM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
I really don't see Ben Franklin. We had several other competent diplomats who could've secured French support, and we had others here in America who did more to drum up support for the revolution.
Robert E. Lee, are you fucking kidding? He was a general in a losing war. He didn't influence the world after him at all, unless you count a bunch of redneck dickbags who complete ignore his relatively non-racist leanings.
MLK, Jr. -- great man and all, but there were plenty of other Civil Rights leaders in America and abroad who were doing the exact same thing.
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I like how tromboner and Cheif missed the fact that lafta was joking 2/18/2008 4:47:12 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The guy who invented Baseball (cant remember his name or if he was from America)
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Abner Doubleday
and I think that Benjamin Franklin, Robert E. Lee, and MLK certainly would all be in the running for the list
[Edited on February 18, 2008 at 5:06 AM. Reason : and prob Elvis, too, for that matter]2/18/2008 5:04:39 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Bill Gates definitely up there somewhere. 2/18/2008 8:30:08 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I really don't see Ben Franklin. We had several other competent diplomats who could've secured French support, and we had others here in America who did more to drum up support for the revolution.
Robert E. Lee, are you fucking kidding? He was a general in a losing war. He didn't influence the world after him at all, unless you count a bunch of redneck dickbags who complete ignore his relatively non-racist leanings.
MLK, Jr. -- great man and all, but there were plenty of other Civil Rights leaders in America and abroad who were doing the exact same thing." |
Ben Franklin wasn't just a diplomat. He was a writer, philosopher, and inventor. He was the first to harness electricity. Plus he was the biggest pimp of the 18th century. Combined with what he contributed to the American Revolution, I'd say that puts him pretty close to the top.
Robert E. Lee is kinda iffy, but there was one point where he was trying to decide whether he would join the Confederacy or not. He was an American through and through, but above that he was a Virginian (or something like that). Without him, the South doesn't have a chance and there is no Civil War.
MLK did what not many other civil rights leaders did at the time. He preached for change through peaceful means and he actually got a lot done. Kinda depends on how much you think got done because of him.
I didn't pick Lee or MLK, but I could totally see why others would. It's all a matter of opinion. But to say there's no way they were greatly influential people would be wrong, I think.2/18/2008 8:46:31 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Paris Hilton 2/18/2008 9:11:55 AM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
Ben Franklin is the sole reason we have america today. He knew how to win the french's support in the american revolution. America had other people over before him but it took franklin going over there and staying for many years to persuade the french to join us. 2/18/2008 9:24:38 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
John D. Rockefeller J.P. Morgan John Marshall Thomas Edison
and you're gonna hate this one...
Orson Welles 2/18/2008 11:42:26 AM |