theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
presumeably Raul will continue as his successor for at least the time being.
[Edited on February 19, 2008 at 2:57 AM. Reason : asdfasd] 2/19/2008 2:57:17 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, you beat me. 2/19/2008 2:58:02 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
well I'll be. 2/19/2008 3:03:14 AM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
death to Cuba 2/19/2008 3:31:07 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
who's gonna replace him, ricky martin? 2/19/2008 4:49:23 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^Probably the dude that has already essentially replaced him. So, no. You're not going to get a chance to see a Cuba with a First Gentleman. 2/19/2008 7:47:36 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
oooh, let's start another war 2/19/2008 8:14:42 AM |
Titopizza Veteran 398 Posts user info edit post |
george bush forever! 2/19/2008 9:06:03 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
USA #1 we showed those commies whose tough 2/19/2008 10:16:53 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
haha, Bush on "Rwanda Television" looks like a TV with rabbit ears in the rain, lol 2/19/2008 12:05:38 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Reasons why bush should lift the embargo TODAY/IMMEDIATELY
1) I want to go to Cuba 2) We already trade with a communist china. Come on.... 3) Our economy is hurting. This would help 4) 5 years and Cuba would be BOOMING..its so totally developable (word????) 5) Its a chance for Bush to add to his legacy.
...please....continue 2/19/2008 12:16:58 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Reasons why bush, Clinton, and Bush Sr. should have lift the embargo TODAY/IMMEDIATELY 17 fucking years ago when the cold war ended" |
2/19/2008 12:24:10 PM |
icanread2 All American 1450 Posts user info edit post |
i love how there have been numerous plans discussed, and surely we will see a variation of those plans put into action, that will funnel $millions to cuba for "democratic efforts"
bullshit i say 2/19/2008 12:34:14 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
And the multi-billion dollar intelligence apparatus licked its grinning chops...
[Edited on February 19, 2008 at 12:36 PM. Reason : ...] 2/19/2008 12:35:54 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "President Bush said Castro's decision ought to spark "a democratic transition" for Cuba." |
I enjoy how bush talks of democracy while spearheading the push to pass the FISA bill through congress. The hypocrisy makes me sick2/19/2008 4:21:13 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Castro has been dead for months, kinda hard for a dead guy to run again. 2/19/2008 4:26:55 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
Weekend at Bernie's?
it might've worked.... 2/19/2008 4:28:16 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
They'll keep the embargo going until a moderate comes to power and then use it as leverage. 2/19/2008 6:02:21 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Look, if after a successful slave revolt in Haiti, they compensated foreign slave owners then why shouldn't Cuba be expected to compensate foreign owners of expropriated cars, houses, factories, and farms?
It doesn't take much, just pay 10% of a low estimated 1960 value to the U.S. government, let them work out who gets it. 2/19/2008 9:38:02 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Look, if after a successful slave revolt in Haiti, they compensated foreign slave owners then why shouldn't Cuba be expected to compensate foreign owners of expropriated cars, houses, factories, and farms?" |
while this deserved a harsh reactions in the 1960; this is just absurd. I am sure the economic impact of the US embargo has cost Cuba more than what they gained during the nationalization of all those businesses in the 60's. If we expect Cuba to do this maybe the US gov't should consider taking the lead by offering reparations for all the oil and gold profits we made by herding the native americans off their lands during the 1800's.2/19/2008 9:41:06 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
the statute of limitations for debt within the us isn't even that long. 2/19/2008 9:52:01 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^^ It's not like they were actively mining gold or drilling for oil. While they may have deserved compensation for their suffering at the time, I don't think that we owe their community anything for drinking their milkshake. 2/19/2008 9:58:12 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
elect Obama, he is Pro Cuba 2/19/2008 11:48:02 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Look, if after a successful slave revolt in Haiti, they compensated foreign slave owners then why shouldn't Cuba be expected to compensate foreign owners of expropriated cars, houses, factories, and farms?" |
Are you fucking serious?
That comparison deeply undermines your position.2/20/2008 12:39:31 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the statute of limitations for debt within the us isn't even that long." |
Right! I completely forgot. The statute of limitations has expired! Even if Cuba had U.S. assets today, victims could no longer sue. As such, I am convinced; the statute of limitations has expired, the embargo should be lifted. In fact, it should have been lifted decades ago.
But the embargo was justified for the first twenty years. Cuba could have easily paid a pittance and gotten the embargo lifted at any time; but it was principle, Castro hated Americans, so Americans had no choice but to maintain the embargo for a set period of time.
I recently learned that America is one of only two countries that did not compensate slave owners for the end of slavery. History is fascinating, isn't it?2/20/2008 2:43:26 PM |