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HOOPS SHALOM
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yea, seriously. I think our fan base would be super duper stoked to be nationally relevant every year, and be in the convo for natty championship every year. Even Roy has only won 2 in the 15 years he's been at UNC.

We would be going from complete dumpster fire to elite 8 super relevant every year.

You gotta be trollin.

Arent you the guy who pretended that he had never read the GoT books, and then made all these accurate "predictions" about what was gonna happen in the show thread?

You gotta be trollin.





[Edited on February 16, 2017 at 10:48 AM. Reason : #SpoilerAlert]

2/16/2017 10:44:36 AM

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Gott would have still been our coach if he'd made the tournament either this year or last. We're not asking for much. Really

2/16/2017 12:33:21 PM

JT3bucky
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Now that the opening is official. 4 million a year!

CMON SEAN!

2/16/2017 3:02:31 PM

Amk772
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Lock it up. it aint happenin

2/16/2017 3:17:34 PM

sgb
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GNSP

2/16/2017 4:15:36 PM

HOOPS SHALOM
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Goodbye

2/16/2017 4:19:26 PM

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^HAHA, this makes sense, you're the guy who apparently isn't observant when watching things. Makes sense you can't picture just how quickly our shitty fanbase would be over being preseason top 10 and not making the Final Four once.

I mean I get it, it's hard for people to see because we're so shitty that we'd just love to be relevant, but like I showed with the Herb example, realistically that shit only flies for so long. When you're use to sucking, being good seems great. When you're using to being good, being good doesn't seem like a big deal anymore.

Hell look at Doeren, it was, "we just want to make a bowl game", now it's, "oh 6 wins doesn't mean anything". Just like with Herb where it went from "please just make the tournament" to "making the tournament is fine but we should be making the Elite 8 and winning the ACC!"

Until Sean actually wins one, or at least makes the Final Four, then he's peaked and his ceiling is the Elite 8. If having top 5 talent and never finishing top 10 is acceptable, then that's fine. I just think eventually the fan base will become super complacent and frustrated.

I mean hell, look at how many UNC fans wanted Roy gone 2-3 years ago. It's all about expectations and how high you set them. If I'm an Arizona fan, I want to see some Final Fours and championship games in the new few years.

2/17/2017 9:07:51 AM

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yup, definitely trollin.

2/17/2017 9:24:51 AM

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Can't wait to bump this thread when Arizona wins it all soon

[Edited on February 17, 2017 at 9:36 AM. Reason : I guess if we got hot and made the S16 this year, Gott would be fired because S16 is his plateau ]

2/17/2017 9:28:28 AM

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^^^ I too remember that we hired Doeren because of our lack of making bowl games and never getting 6 wins under O'Brien. This is precisely why Doeren was brought in.

People are going to be excited at the moment they win and in the moment they lose, it's human nature. To think that Arizona fans weren't upset when they lost to Wisconsin in back to back elite eights would be naive. But I bet come November they were excited for their bball season because they had success those 2 years.

[Edited on February 17, 2017 at 9:31 AM. Reason : .]

2/17/2017 9:30:53 AM

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Bahahahahahaha.

Oh well, just another top 10 team that can't make it past the Sweet 16.

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"Can't wait to bump this thread when Arizona wins it all soon"


Keep on waiting.

3/24/2017 8:52:45 AM

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3 Elite Eights and 2 Sweet Sixteens in 7 years. He's awful. You got us.

3/24/2017 9:28:50 AM

thegoodlife3
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such an odd hill to die on

3/24/2017 10:12:37 AM

sgb
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LudaChris must have felt that Jay Wright sucked donkey dick until last year.

3/24/2017 10:17:05 AM

jocristian
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^^ No shit. When you get called out for calling sean miller a mediocre coach, most people would slink off hope noone remembers and post other places. This dude keeps digging in.

3/24/2017 10:52:25 AM

LudaChris
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Haha. Feel free to go read some of the Arizona message boards, their fans are getting annoyed with Sean. Not annoyed to the point of wanting him fired, but annoyed to the point they're starting to think he's peaked and that he'll never win a title.

Also, Jay Wright actually made a Final Four before last year and he has NEVER had the recruiting classes that Miller is putting together each season. Also, before this season Sean Miller was the 3rd highest paid coach and Jay Wright was 16th.

Fun-fact: 4 of the top 5 paid coaches have at least 1 national title. Miller is the 1 that does not.

But yeah, let's give him 15 more years, he's bound to win one by accident with all the talent he keeps amassing. All this adoration you guys have for Sean is going to turn to hate when he ends up coaching at UNC.

^Mediocre? I never said he was mediocre. I said he was overrated. He's just not a top 5 coach. Hell he might not be a top 10 coach. He's a top 3 recruiter for sure, but coach? Meh, not so much. He's a great coach, he's just not as great as you guys are making him out to be.

[Edited on March 24, 2017 at 12:31 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2017 12:29:50 PM

JT3bucky
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With these results he won't be coaching at UNCheat

3/24/2017 12:33:02 PM

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^^Im really not eager to be defending Miller, but he has won 30 games 5x with 2 different teams, made 4 elite 8's with 2 different teams, won multiple conf tourney and reg season chips with 2 diff teams.

NCAA tourney success is important, but it isn't like the NBA playoffs, there will always be upsets and/or unlucky teams, any maybe Miller was just outcoached in every loss, but it's weird to discount his long list of accomplishments.

Here's the other thing, you separate out being a "recruiter" vs being a "coach", but they are one and the same. Plenty of great xo coaches that sucks as coaches bc they can't recruit.

[Edited on March 24, 2017 at 1:14 PM. Reason : ^Roy couldn't get a chip either ]

3/24/2017 1:13:05 PM

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Lute Olson coached Arizona for 25 years. He only won 4 conference championships (despite wining the regular season 11 times!) Also took him until 1997 to win his only National Title.

So Arizona should be used to not winning championships.

3/24/2017 1:29:51 PM

LudaChris
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Haha, Sean Miller already catching flack from Zona fans. Usually they don't fuss until closer to the conference tournament.

11/23/2017 3:46:37 PM

sgb
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OMG fans are upset after a loss!

Great find Luda

11/23/2017 5:42:30 PM

HOOPS SHALOM
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Boom Roasted.

11/24/2017 3:49:22 PM

LudaChris
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Hahaha. Sean Miller is done.

Cheating the whole time and still nothing to show for it.

Can't wait for him to win a title and everyone here to prove me wrong hahaha.

2/23/2018 10:48:08 PM

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2/23/2018 10:49:34 PM

LudaChris
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Still waiting for everyone to bump this thread and call me out when Sean wins his illusive title. Only a matter of time with these great recruiting classes and early upsets.

The best thing the guy could do was recruit, and now we find out he was cheating the entire time.

2/23/2018 11:00:40 PM

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rip

2/23/2018 11:04:43 PM

Kickstand
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Caught on wiretap

2/23/2018 11:11:58 PM

tulsigabbard
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Obama tapped his phones

2/23/2018 11:26:07 PM

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Quote :
"The best thing the guy could do was recruit, and now we find out he was cheating the entire time.

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You just described the majority of the top 50 basketball programs in the nation. Miller was the only one dumb enough to arrange the payments himself...

2/23/2018 11:27:35 PM

Dynasty2004
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dis gon be good.

2/24/2018 9:57:30 AM

ncsuapex
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He gone.

2/24/2018 10:02:21 AM

justinh524
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LMAO if he gets fired for cause, he still gets $10.3 million.

Did the Georgia Tech AD move to Arizona???

2/24/2018 10:27:08 AM

JT3bucky
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No idea how he hasn;t been fired yet unless the AD is trying to get out of that contract.

Smart move by Miller to be someone so dumb.

Blessing in disguise we never got him to coach State.

2/24/2018 1:14:28 PM

Big4Country
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^Yep! I'm happy with our coach even if we get banned from the tournament for some silly violation too.

2/24/2018 1:42:40 PM

JT3bucky
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Why would NCSU get banned?

There are no players or staff that were mentioned and NCSU disassociated from the agent.

Not jhappening

2/24/2018 1:47:55 PM

Big4Country
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^Yeah I know, but this is NC State. They'll discover someone from our first basketball roster ever broke an NCAA rule and will probably give us a lifetime ban from the NCAA Tournament.

2/24/2018 1:52:17 PM

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Miller isn’t gonna coach tonight but they aren’t saying he’s fired yet

2/24/2018 5:03:25 PM

Clifton
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Herb was sending kroons and kronens overseas the entire time!

2/24/2018 5:35:14 PM

ncsuapex
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Oh God, Lute Olsen is PISSED.

2/24/2018 5:40:18 PM

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Quote :
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2009–10 Arizona 16–15 10–8 4th
2010–11 Arizona 30–8 14–4 1st NCAA Elite Eight
2011–12 Arizona 23–12 12–6 4th NIT First Round
2012–13 Arizona 27–8 12–6 2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2013–14 Arizona 33–5 15–3 1st NCAA Elite Eight
2014–15 Arizona 34–4 16–2 1st NCAA Elite Eight
2015–16 Arizona 25–9 12–6 3rd NCAA First Round
2016–17 Arizona 23–3 12–1

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2/24/2018 8:38:05 PM

slumdog
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^ LOL nice one

2/24/2018 9:48:54 PM

ncsuallday
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press conference at 2:30

3/1/2018 1:48:10 PM

DonMega
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He denied everything and took the "fake news" approach

I agree that people may have been quick to condemn him for these actions without giving Miller a chance to defend himself, but he better be telling the truth or he is going to be roasted even further.

3/1/2018 4:03:01 PM

dmspack
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dunno if this is the best place for this, but seems like there are a few issues with the ESPN report about Sean Miller.

https://deadspin.com/is-there-a-good-reason-to-doubt-espns-sean-miller-repor-1823373256

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/03/01/arizona-sean-miller-deandre-ayton-espn-report

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"a source familiar with the college hoops corruption investigation confirmed with SI that the details of a wiretapped phone call involving Miller were inaccurately reported in a story by ESPN that said Miller “discussed paying $100,000 to ensure star freshman Deandre Ayton signed with the Wildcats.”

According to the source, relevant FBI wiretaps in the investigation did not begin until 2017—months after five-star recruit Deandre Ayton had already committed to Arizona in Sept. 2016. This account is consistent with reporting by Evan Daniels of 247Sports. The recruitment of Ayton, therefore, would have not been at issue in an intercepted phone call that occurred in 2017. To that end, the source told SI what Miller clarified for the first time Thursday: Ayton is not the player on whose behalf former ASM Sports employee Christian Dawkins allegedly sought a payment from Miller, and Miller never pursued or made any payments to a recruit associated with Dawkins."


[Edited on March 1, 2018 at 4:44 PM. Reason : h]

3/1/2018 4:27:08 PM

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But wait, there's more! ESPN retracts their correction, goes back to original story.

https://deadspin.com/espn-retracts-correction-in-sean-miller-wiretap-story-1823440125

3/1/2018 4:53:49 PM

Clifton
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Biggest clue is his not coaching on Saturday. Lol

3/1/2018 4:58:28 PM

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lol

3/15/2018 11:40:48 PM

tulsigabbard
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so much for our quality win

3/15/2018 11:43:29 PM

TreeTwista10
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yeah, i'm PISSED! we NEED that win to be looked at as favorably as possible!

3/15/2018 11:46:30 PM

Turnip
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LudaChris fought hard and won this thread

3/16/2018 1:17:24 AM

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