at the NAACP dinner

He seems pretty cool!

4/27/2008 8:01:55 PM

link?

4/27/2008 9:20:40 PM

he's back on now

4/27/2008 10:00:12 PM

he's a bigot because he's not uncle tom

4/27/2008 10:06:36 PM

WOW. I thought at first - oh god, please someone shut this guy up because he is fucking with Obama but I mean. wow.

that was a fascinating speech. Regardless of how you feel about the man, you have to hear it. Even CNN was flabbergasted about how amazing it was. They actually said it was 'unbelievable' He kind of turned the tables on the perceptions...


[Edited on April 27, 2008 at 10:49 PM. Reason : =]

4/27/2008 10:47:09 PM

That Rev. Anthony is one passionate guy, that's a turn off to white people off the bat.

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"Even CNN was flabbergasted about how amazing it was. They actually said it was 'unbelievable' He kind of turned the tables on the perceptions"

How can that be, when they were the freaking ones that created the flawed perceptions?


[Edited on April 27, 2008 at 10:53 PM. Reason : ]

4/27/2008 10:51:21 PM

It was a good speech, I agree with his general take on education, but I disagree with his reasoning for the position. I do think our education grossly mislabels black (and poor kids in black neighborhoods) students as BEH or whatever, instead of considering the cultural differences of blacks in America, but I don't think it's because blacks inherently think differently than any other people.

I also like how CNN called the speech "humorous" and "entertaining" when that's not what the speech was really about.

4/27/2008 11:46:42 PM

Translation: "He speaks so well!"

4/27/2008 11:50:43 PM

I dunno.

I was still getting a lot of hostility and anger out of his mocking impressions of the way white folks talk. He seemed to really enjoy making whites sound silly. But I'm sure I'm taking it out of context.

4/28/2008 2:51:57 AM

^ Although he repeated the phrase "different is not deficient" multiple times, you still felt like that's not what he was saying?

There's no hope for you.

4/28/2008 2:55:49 AM

When a black man criticizes the country, he's angry.

When a white man criticizes the country, he's "raising questions."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0wvQMqSzTM

This guy said it better than I ever could.

4/28/2008 3:01:23 AM

^ Then why did Wright feel it necessary to call Secretary of State Dr. Condoleezza Rice "Condoskeeza"? What legitimate questions could such an ad hominem attack raise?

4/28/2008 3:42:34 AM

^He may have thought it was kind of funny. Making a lame joke doesn't mean you're not raising legitimate questions.



Also, are you disagreeing with the idea that black folk's criticisms are more likely to be interpreted as anger than white folk's criticisms? Or are you strictly speaking about Rev. Wright's Condoskeeza comment?

I mean, because Lius is also talking about blacks and whites in general. So when you respond to him with a comment about Wright and imply that Wright's not raising legitimate questions, it sounds like you're saying black people aren't raising legitimate questions.

And could we pick a different phrase? I'm using "raising legitimate questions" for continuity's sake. But I'm up for something different.

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 5:03 AM. Reason : sss]

4/28/2008 5:02:17 AM

Does anyone have video of the speech? The only thing I can find is on Youtube and it's just someone recording it off a crappy tv.

4/28/2008 6:56:29 AM

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"When a black man criticizes the country white people, he's angry. "

4/28/2008 9:31:06 AM

OH SHIT!!!!

This man is awesome!

You see him on CNN right now?

4/28/2008 9:34:12 AM

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"Also, are you disagreeing with the idea that black folk's criticisms are more likely to be interpreted as anger than white folk's criticisms? Or are you strictly speaking about Rev. Wright's Condoskeeza comment?"

No, when someone raises question in a civilized manner, he is raising questions. When someone says

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"US of KKK A"

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"GOD DAMN AMERICA"

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"THE US LIED ABOUT PEARL HARBOR. THE US LIED ABOUT 9/11"

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"HIV was invented as a means of genocide against black people"

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"America's chickens... have come home.... to roost"

That's when you crossover from "raising questions" to "insane and angry"

4/28/2008 9:47:50 AM

^ Haha, that's exactly what he was talking about yesterday and today. It's so easy for you to say OMG HE IS INSANE rather than discuss what it was that he was really saying, and question why he was saying it.

Anyway, it's obvious that when it comes to the "black church" there's no hope for you - and it's your choice that you would rather look down on it rather than culture yourself.

Anyway, after watching Wright for the past 2 days speaking out, I feel like I've been missing out on a lot since I've never been a part of this "Black Church" community.

4/28/2008 10:38:23 AM

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"When a black man criticizes the country, he's angry. When a white man criticizes the country, he's "raising questions." he should just shut up because hs'e white so he's automatically rich and privileged and if he complains about anything he's a racist"

4/28/2008 11:00:56 AM

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"Haha, that's exactly what he was talking about yesterday and today. It's so easy for you to say OMG HE IS INSANE rather than discuss what it was that he was really saying, and question why he was saying it."

Dude, how am I supposed to respond to BLATANTLY INCORRECT AND RACIST STATEMENTS?

Why don't you defend the substance of "the government created HIV as a means of genocide against blacks"

Defend it. Go for it. I want to hear this.



Are we supposed to discuss anything any crazy person says no matter how racist or how absolutely insane? Where do we cut the bar?

Should we try to understand why Trent Lott said what he did to Strom Thurmond before condmning him? What about Imus? What about Jessie Helms?

Why the different standard?


[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 11:15 AM. Reason : .]

4/28/2008 11:09:43 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_Male

4/28/2008 11:11:29 AM

haha yall ever notice how white people like ^^^ are paranoid or something?

4/28/2008 11:13:37 AM

^^ No where in that article does it implicate the government for creating HIV.

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 11:14 AM. Reason : .]

4/28/2008 11:13:53 AM

Those expirements along with forced strerlization creates a mindset. If you cannot see that, then all is lost.

4/28/2008 11:15:16 AM

yall ever notice how dnl lacks the ability to think for himself?

4/28/2008 11:15:20 AM

i'd also like to add that i'm not voting for wright

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 11:16 AM. Reason : ^weak]

4/28/2008 11:15:30 AM

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"Why don't you defend the substance of "the government created HIV as a means of genocide against blacks""

Yeah, read the link nutsmackr posted. Like it really matters - like I said, no hope for you.

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"Are we supposed to discuss anything any crazy person says no matter how racist or how absolutely insane? Where do we cut the bar? "

You're just one of the simpleton tools a few guys on the news tricked into believing he's a crazy racist. If you watched him last night or this morning, you'd have to be a real idiot to still believe that. (not out of the realm of possibility either)

4/28/2008 11:16:24 AM

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"Those expirements along with forced strerlization creates a mindset. If you cannot see that, then all is lost."

He can talk about that in a rational manner. I completely understand the mindset and distrust. However, the outrageous claim that the government created HIV to exterminate black people IS AN ABOMINABLE mistake of Wrights.

He wasn't in front of a lecture hall examining or questioning this. He assertively said it WHILE PREACHING... where there is no collective group thought.

4/28/2008 11:17:24 AM

terp STILL refuses to comment on the AIDS conspiracy

4/28/2008 11:20:35 AM

What do you want me to say? I don't fucking know where AIDS came from! Do you?

4/28/2008 11:22:06 AM

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"He can talk about that in a rational manner. I completely understand the mindset and distrust. However, the outrageous claim that the government created HIV to exterminate black people IS AN ABOMINABLE mistake of Wrights."

When that mistrusts rises to such a level, then it is extremely easy to view the United States Government as doing such.

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"He wasn't in front of a lecture hall examining or questioning this. He assertively said it WHILE PREACHING... where there is no collective group thought."

Mike Huckabee, a former contender for the Republican Party’s presidential nomination, said it would be “a little bit presumptuous to ever assume” that a congregant agrees with everything a pastor says.

“Influential? Sure. Necessarily transferable? Usually not,” Huckabee told a reporter while speaking with the press aboard Sen. John McCain’s campaign bus, the Straight Talk Express.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/25/huckabee-presumptuous-to-assume-obama-agrees-with-wright/

4/28/2008 11:22:30 AM

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"What do you want me to say? I don't fucking know where AIDS came from! Do you?"

apparently when wright goes salisburyboy and claims it was created by whites to destroy the black race, you dont even feel the need to question that...which implies you believe him, or at a minimum, that its not out of the realm of possibility...that it sounds like a logical origin to you

4/28/2008 11:24:17 AM

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"When that mistrusts rises to such a level, then it is extremely easy to view the United States Government as doing such."

So we excuse irrationality? No matter how bigoted or hateful?

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"Mike Huckabee, a former contender for the Republican Party’s presidential nomination, said it would be “a little bit presumptuous to ever assume” that a congregant agrees with everything a pastor says. “Influential? Sure. Necessarily transferable? Usually not,” Huckabee told a reporter while speaking with the press aboard Sen. John McCain’s campaign bus, the Straight Talk Express."

This has no relevance as it was not what I was saying. I'm not debating if people believed what he was saying. I'm saying he was preaching something that was patently false at worst or an extreme longshot at best as if it was a bona fide TRUTH to a group of people where objections could not be heard before the masses as it usually can in a university classroom, which is where this discussion belongs.

He wasn't teaching. He was telling.

4/28/2008 11:25:21 AM

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"So we excuse irrationality? No matter how bigoted or hateful?"

hateful towards whom--the US Government?

4/28/2008 11:26:17 AM

I'm speaking generally. We excuse irrationality if the mindset lends it towards a person's feelings?

4/28/2008 11:26:53 AM

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"What do you want me to say? I don't fucking know where AIDS came from! Do you? "

Africa

4/28/2008 11:27:06 AM

you brought hate and bigotry into this. Who is it hateful or bigotted towards?

4/28/2008 11:29:43 AM

Wright loves white people and America...he isn't at all hateful or bigoted...implying he is is just silly

also lol at all the people who normally say "dumb bible thumping christian redneck idiots" and whatnot and now are like "oh wright is the man, i love religion"

4/28/2008 11:33:13 AM

so now, the United States government is a represnetation for white folk in America?

4/28/2008 11:35:50 AM

I liked Wright's social commentary last night and this morning - I think putting him out there in the public eye is doing nothing but good for this country. Of course I don't agree with everything he said, but I appreciate him having the balls to say what he's saying when he knows that EVERYONE is listening.

4/28/2008 11:36:41 AM

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"so now, the United States government is a represnetation for white folk in America?"

damn right it is, where have you been?

4/28/2008 11:38:06 AM

Twista is incapable of simple syllogism.

4/28/2008 11:40:49 AM

Wooow....I can't believe some of the people in this thread saying "He's the man, YAY! GO REVEREND!!"

This "out of context" bullshit it getting old. I don't care how out of context "America's chickens... have come home.... to roost" is. That man is a racist fucking PIG.

4/28/2008 11:45:05 AM

nutsmackr thinks syphillis is the same as AIDS

4/28/2008 11:46:21 AM

i wonder if whites are going to riot if obama wins

4/28/2008 11:48:39 AM

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"Wooow....I can't believe some of the people in this thread saying "He's the man, YAY! GO REVEREND!!" This "out of context" bullshit it getting old. I don't care how out of context "America's chickens... have come home.... to roost" is. That man is a racist fucking PIG. "

hahahaha

You think his discussions on America's foreign policy makes him racist? Do you even understand what you are saying?

4/28/2008 11:49:39 AM

^^ Why would we? If the democratic process pans out and he is the winner, then he'll be my president.

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM. Reason : .]

4/28/2008 11:50:21 AM

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"discussions on America's foreign policy"

lololol

and don imus was just discussing hair styles

4/28/2008 11:51:18 AM

^ LOL

4/28/2008 11:51:47 AM

^^LOL, nice

4/28/2008 11:58:42 AM