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ncemt_03
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1996 Toyota Camry LE

4door
Tan
108,xxx Miles
auto trans
4 cylinder
power windows, locks, seats
moonroof
a/c
abs
cd player
alloy wheels
spoiler


***Cracked Head***

KBB- Private Party is $4200 in "good" condition.

Found an engine on http://www.car-part.com with 81k for $675



GO...

5/20/2008 7:31:51 PM

goFigure
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Use NADA values, not blue book...

it's what the dealers will go for.

5/20/2008 7:41:34 PM

optmusprimer
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dealers do NOT use NADA.

5/20/2008 8:20:37 PM

bmdurham
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Just off the top, I wouldn't pay any more than 2k for that car. (Thats including new engine, installation, work). I assume its not working, and you dont know what else could be faulty or have failed when the engine went.

5/20/2008 8:21:15 PM

optmusprimer
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^ do you buy many cars?

5/20/2008 8:24:40 PM

ncemt_03
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Already had it in the garage.... Should be a simple swap- (mechanics words from dealer)-

Considering private party and cost to repair I was thinking $1500.... Car only has 100k on tranny/body and with a new motor with only 81k it should easily be a $3500-4500 car.... in which case someone could flip a profit pretty easy (IMO)

^no- obviously he doesn't...lol

[Edited on May 20, 2008 at 8:28 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2008 8:27:35 PM

bmdurham
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a couple. Personally I wouldnt even purchase this car. Is it not unreasonable to think that even if he buys the 'car' for 500, then the engine for another 675 (not including shipping) that he may accrue another 500 in installation/maitenance? Not that I claim to know the exact market value of all things, but I would be wary if I were the buyer.'

[Edited on May 20, 2008 at 8:29 PM. Reason : OP never said it was serviced already.]

5/20/2008 8:28:24 PM

optmusprimer
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new motor does not matter.

i thought you were a dealer at some point? sounds like you dont know your shit.

5/20/2008 8:28:33 PM

optmusprimer
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I dont think either of you know what you are doing.

5/20/2008 8:35:25 PM

bmdurham
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which is why i dont plan to flip cars. or buy motors off of ebay. but from your posts you obviously have the answer.

5/20/2008 8:37:32 PM

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in 80 years when this car becomes a classic, some poor soul is gonna hate you because the #'s dont match and his car wont be worth millions

5/20/2008 8:42:09 PM

ncemt_03
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^^^^Of course the new motor means nothing in regards to value... I was a dealer when in NY- Of course we had a outside garage who did all of my work...

I guess heres how I am breaking it down...and we'll use KBB private party just as a starting point.

KBB PP- $4500

New motor- $675

Install/work- $700 (we'll shoot high just to play safe)


Total parts/labor- $1375

Subtracted from Private Value (not dealer retail)- $3125

If i sell car for $1500

Profit margin would be $1625 (in someone else pocket)

[Edited on May 20, 2008 at 8:46 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2008 8:46:17 PM

optmusprimer
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Quote :
"I was a dealer when in NY"


dave421 said you were trying to be a "dealer" down here too, but not with cars.

5/20/2008 8:51:21 PM

ncemt_03
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hmmm..... dave421 and I may need to have a conversation it seems-

5/20/2008 10:02:56 PM

slowblack96
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Carmax

5/20/2008 10:34:07 PM

OmarBadu
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sounds just like my old car except it has leather and it was the "american edition" but i never really looked up what that meant

i can't believe that thing is still worth 4k

5/20/2008 10:44:50 PM

ncemt_03
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lol- neither could i originally....hence my interest in messing with it

5/21/2008 12:08:15 AM

ncemt_03
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so i put this on CL for $1000 and have gotten about 50 emails over night- THinking i should mark it up some more-

6/2/2008 4:28:59 PM

sd2nc
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$1,000 plus $1,500 (high) for engine and labor, sell the next day for $3,500. I wonder why so many people would be interested???

6/2/2008 4:53:56 PM

ncemt_03
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agreed- that was my whole thought process but i haven't gotten dick for interest on tww as of yet.

6/2/2008 5:17:57 PM

Mindstorm
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I think most people on TWW need cars that work when they pick them up.

I know some people on here would fix them up, but they all seem to be shrewd enough that they are able to buy working cars and turn them around for a profit simply by selling them to a different market.

6/2/2008 5:24:37 PM

ncemt_03
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agreed there are cars to be flipped but for a far less margin of profit-

I mean hell- To someone on here...

$1000 car+ $450 new engine + 1 days work = almost a $3000 profit selling on CL


Either way- Still would have preferred to have sold it here- Still contemplating if I should mark the price up to $1500 on CL and see what response i get-

6/2/2008 5:27:53 PM

slowblack96
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there are alot of idiots on cl but 3k good luck

6/2/2008 10:47:53 PM

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Quote :
"Considering private party and cost to repair I was thinking $1500.... Car only has 100k on tranny/body and with a new motor with only 81k it should easily be a $3500-4500 car.... in which case someone could flip a profit pretty easy (IMO)"


if it is such an easy flip, why won't you do it yourself?

6/2/2008 10:54:44 PM

optmusprimer
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Quote :
"shrewds"

6/2/2008 11:49:09 PM

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