If you count the votes that don't count.

And omit the caucus states.

Is she delusional or dishonest?

5/21/2008 7:59:39 PM

since the popular vote is meaningless and only a symbolic victory, she can make up whatever rules for it she likes. right?

5/22/2008 8:52:26 AM

basically

5/22/2008 8:53:24 AM

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"If you count the votes that don't count."

which includes her share of Michigan votes, where Obama wasn't even on the ballot

5/22/2008 9:11:37 AM

Hillary is the new Al Gore. Obama is the new Bush.

5/22/2008 9:13:37 AM

OBAMA IS OUTRIGHT DOMINATING HER!!!!


oh wait, he's only won 2 of the last 7 states. and barely got one of those. oops.

5/22/2008 9:32:48 AM

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"Is she delusional or dishonest?"

Neither, just completely shameless

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"If you count the votes that don't count. And omit the caucus states. "

You also have to assume Barack would have gotten 0% in Michigan.

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 9:59 AM. Reason : d]

5/22/2008 9:57:57 AM

"fuzzy math."

5/22/2008 10:07:42 AM

i honestly don't understand the outrage


because it's like there's 15 seconds left in a basketball game and the score is 88-83(obama), and hillary has the ball and is sinking 3 pointer after 3 pointer(5/7 states she's won), with barack occasionally hitting a free throw(indiana and oregon)


and if she's all but lost, why are you so worried? she's dragging more voters to the polls in record numbers in preparation for november.

5/22/2008 10:07:58 AM

How dare she challenge "the messiah"!

PS: I find it amusing that Obama--"man of the people"--is having trouble with the proletariat.

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 10:13 AM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 10:11:24 AM

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"having trouble with the proletariat. "

good thing he isn't. he is, however, having trouble with appalachia.

blue collar workers in states not in appalachia support him on the same level as those who support hillary. the ones who don't are usually 60+. but hes never claimed to be the man of the old. in fact thats exactly what hes campaigning and saying he is not.

5/22/2008 10:30:17 AM

more like Obama is the man of the uneducated and the socialist.

5/22/2008 10:35:57 AM

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"more like Obama is the man of the uneducated and the socialist."

As much as I think that statement applies to the college-educated bohemian retards, the demographics show your above statement applies much more to Hillary than anyone else. Her base of support is high school dropouts, crusty old people, and Appalachian rednecks.

5/22/2008 10:38:49 AM

seeing as how he gets the votes of those who have been to college more so than any of the other candidates out there right now, thats would seem untrue, unless, all those with higher than a high school education are immediately viewed as socialist.

5/22/2008 10:39:01 AM

because obviously all the happiest and smartest people to have ever lived on the planet had degrees.

and oh, you're right on one thing, they aren't all socialists.

5/22/2008 10:41:22 AM

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"because obviously all the happiest and smartest people to have ever lived on the planet had degrees."

the statement he made was educated, i replied in terms of education. education does not necessarily indicate intelligence, nor does lack there of specifically indicate the unintelligent.

5/22/2008 10:45:32 AM

i was told if this was a basketball game the score is like 90-80 with 15 seconds left and clinton keeps fouling

5/22/2008 10:56:49 AM

^ I like that analogy.

5/22/2008 10:57:49 AM

thanks i wasnt actually told that, i just made it up...but i figured if i didnt put the "i was told" everyone would be a nagger and complain

5/22/2008 11:02:34 AM

He doesn't even have a flag lapel pin on an artists rendering... This guy hates America.

5/22/2008 11:02:39 AM

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"if this was a basketball game the score is like 90-80 with 15 seconds left and clinton keeps fouling"

the ghost of jimmy v is dead. you people would just walk off the court

5/22/2008 11:05:59 AM

jimmy v won a game being down by 10 with 15 seconds left?

5/22/2008 11:18:57 AM

unc did one time (or so my dad tells it -- and he's an ncsu fan)

or maybe it was something like down 7 with <10 seconds left

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 11:48 AM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 11:47:32 AM

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"We cannot win with eggheads and African-Americans, okay? That's the Dukakis coalition, which carried ten states and gave us four years of the first George Bush."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qvmtbth2YKM

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"Democratic strategists agree that Obama has his work cut out for him in defining himself on his own terms and countering assertions that he's inexperienced, elitist and out of step with the rest of the country. 'Partly what he's got to do is define his appeal to middle-class voters,' said Democratic pollster Mark Mellman. 'I don't think that will be hard. But it's something he has to do, provide some focus on their economic pain and on the issues that are animating him.'"

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"Obama's inability to win primaries in many big industrial battleground states, or to appeal to white working-class voters or to many older people, particularly women, make him vulnerable — as does his lack of economic and foreign-policy experience. 'Clearly Obama has to give people more confidence in his ability in protecting the country, where McCain has a huge advantage, wider than Bush enjoyed over John Kerry four years ago,' said pollster Andrew Kohut, president of the independent Pew Research Center. Most of those questioned in a Pew survey this month described McCain as 'a centrist whose views are fairly close to their own.' The same voters see Obama as far to the left of themselves."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h5Tk8eJ18-ss9XaV4zvw5N9wCLSQD90O4RK00

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 12:24 PM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 12:19:17 PM

haha i know the quote without looking at the video...he has a thread...i'll post it thur

5/22/2008 12:20:07 PM

^^ eeesh

Makes it sound like the two groups are mutually exclusive.

5/22/2008 12:23:08 PM

^ Well, that's a current Democrat operative talking. The Democrats' warts on race are showing a lot this cycle.

5/22/2008 12:25:35 PM

RUSH: I mentioned earlier in the program that we have now succeeded in introducing a new term into the popular vernacular, as we have introduced the term feminazi and Uglo-American. Now Hillary's testicle lockbox has made it into the popular vernacular. Friday, Hardball, Chris Matthews, talking with Michelle Bernard about the Democrat primary. She's the president of the Independent Women's Voice, and Matthews says, "Fickle nature of this campaign. Twenty-four hours you have down in Washington, what a difference a day makes, you know, one day."

BERNARD: Whether the president was actually talking about Obama and the Democrats or not, it was a great gift. It gave Obama the ability to go out on the offensive and start giving the American public what his foreign policy credentials are going to look like, and that's something he needs to do. We always have people talking about Hillary Clinton having this great testicular lockbox and she opens it and closes it and she's looking very powerful --

MATTHEWS: Testicular lockbox?

BERNARD: Yes. Yes.

MATTHEWS: Is that a metaphor?

BERNARD: Where have you been?

RUSH: "Where have you been?" Matthews apparently has not heard of the testicle lockbox or the testicular lockbox. Michelle Bernard obviously a fan, the EIB Network introducing the term to Chris Matthews. That's one thing, he should know it because he's had experience with the testicle lockbox. He made the statement that the only reason she got elected senator is because her husband cheated on her, and then the Clinton campaign lowered the boom and the lid on the testicle lockbox and Matthews had to apologize. I mean, he's had experience with the thing and professes not to know anything about it.



lol

5/22/2008 1:01:58 PM

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"It gave Obama the ability to go out on the offensive and start giving the American public what his foreign policy credentials are going to look like , and that's something he needs to do."

This statement doesn't make any sense. Credentials are something you're supposed to already have. I seriously doubt Obama is going to accumulate any foreign policy credentials during his campaign.

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 1:10 PM. Reason : specification]

5/22/2008 1:09:30 PM

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"because it's like there's 15 seconds left in a basketball game and the score is 88-83(obama), and hillary has the ball and is sinking 3 pointer after 3 pointer(5/7 states she's won), with barack occasionally hitting a free throw(indiana and oregon)"

thats the most retarded thing ive ever heard.

you're telling us that her 50.5 to 49.5 win in IN was a three pointer?

or that winning PA, with the oldest population in the US excepting Florida, was a three pointer??

or that winning WV -- by any conceivable metric -- is a three pointer???

Kentucky and Oregon... the best you can say there is they traded baskets. not to mention that Obama even won the poor, uneducated, unemployed white vote in OR. and that's the extent of hillary's demographic.

to try and compare a candidate winning/not-winning a dem primary/caucus in one state as evidence that they will win/not-win the state in a general election is fallacious reasoning. but if you want to go there, just for fun: KY and WV do not make or break any national election. Whereas the West Coast and the South can and has.

look, RAT, combined with all your other uninformed, bizarre and fallacy-ridden statements, how on earth do you ever expect anyone to ever take you seriously?




[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 2:08 PM. Reason : ]

5/22/2008 2:00:16 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080522/pl_afp/usvotestates_080522150227

obama losing in florida/ohio against mccain

clinton winning in fl/oh/pa against mccain

5/22/2008 2:02:07 PM

"A New Hope"


for the terrorists.

5/22/2008 2:02:21 PM

everybody knows it comes down to ohio and florida.

i mean what the fuck are we debating. obama is flawed and a fraud. can't win the popular and still claims victory.

king of the world material

5/22/2008 2:03:27 PM

hey, if i start calling people names that disagree with me does that make me a Democrat?

5/22/2008 2:05:34 PM

i know you and the rest of the Republican loyalists only want Hillary to win because McCain is more likely to demonize her to the religious right and beat her.

5/22/2008 2:06:28 PM

^^more like a republican lol

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 2:07 PM. Reason : ^seriously...once they realized hillary wasnt the nominee they went oh shit]

5/22/2008 2:07:12 PM

^^^^ By that description he sounds like George W. material. Haha.

^^ That's pretty stupid considering the amount of attention Obama's past ties to Islam and his pastor are getting. McCain could easily do the same thing to Obama.




[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 2:10 PM. Reason : ^]

5/22/2008 2:07:57 PM

"past ties to Islam"

how cute.

he has no "ties" to Islam.

5/22/2008 7:52:34 PM

What the hell do caucus results have to do with the popular vote?

Those things aren't a reflection of the vote. Just look at Texas.

5/22/2008 8:04:37 PM

you might say he oBomba-ed 5 of the last 7 states. lol

5/22/2008 8:12:09 PM

We're talking about a guy that grew up in Indonesia. WV has decided the president the last 116 years.

5/22/2008 8:25:09 PM

yeah guys...i dont know what your problems are...but we should look up to west virginians

5/22/2008 8:29:52 PM

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"We're talking about a guy that grew up in Indonesia. WV has decided the president the last 116 years."

Hurf durf

5/22/2008 8:30:59 PM

George W. Bush has ruined the Democratic Party.

5/22/2008 8:34:35 PM

which democratic party?

the jefferson one?

the jackson one?

the wilson one?

the fdr one?

the jfk one?

bill clinton's penis on tv 24/7 one?

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 8:39 PM. Reason : VOTE W]

5/22/2008 8:36:46 PM

Socks`` is about the fattest, greasiest nerd to ever ride Hillary's wrinkly badonkabottom.

I bet it's funny to see him showing up to Hillary events with the crazy cat ladies. Crowding with them, laughing with them. Smelling like old ham.

5/22/2008 8:38:52 PM

The James Buchanan Democratic Party.

5/22/2008 8:44:17 PM

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""past ties to Islam" how cute. he has no "ties" to Islam."

I suppose my post was pretty ambiguous, but I wasn't saying I believed or didn't believe he had ties to Islam. I'm simply stating that many have the perception that he does because that's what people in the press keep bringing up. I mean, if you're dumb enough to see Obama on tv and find a reason to love him, why can't other people be dumb enough to see him on tv and find a reason to hate him?

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 11:33 PM. Reason : asdf]

5/22/2008 11:32:40 PM

Buchanan

I KNEW IT

5/23/2008 9:34:19 AM

^^ wow. way to explain your gross mischaracterization with a gross overgeneralization.

most people who support Obama didnt just watch him on TV. its a grassroots movement that will define all grassroots movements for the next 50 years. I saw him speak here in Seattle for a $10 donation. while Bush was making appearances on McCain's behalf across the lake for $1500 a plate. If I had been quick enough, i could have even had him personally autograph his book for me at the local bookstore.

besides the personal events, the networking and organization of supporters is nothing short of astounding. if i had time, I could go to an Obama-related event damn near every week.


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[Edited on May 23, 2008 at 8:37 PM. Reason : ]

5/23/2008 8:34:09 PM