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Douglass Joins Obama Campaign

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"Ten days ago, National Journal's Linda Douglass was on 'Hardball,' chatting about whether Barack Obama might pick Hillary Clinton as his running mate, or risk ignoring 'a very energized female vote out there.'

Now Douglass will find herself defending whatever decision the candidate makes -- as Obama's spokeswoman.

After a three-decade career as a correspondent for CBS and ABC, Douglass said yesterday she decided she 'just can't sit on the sidelines' and is signing on as a senior strategist and traveling press secretary for the Illinois senator. Douglass called this is 'an irreversible move' at this stage of her life, adding: 'Once you cross over to an advocacy role of this magnitude, you can't go back to being an objective journalist,' she said.

Asked whether she had commented on the campaign while negotiating for a job, Douglass said the discussions began in the last several days -- she spoke to Obama on Sunday -- and that she immediately stopped talking about politics."


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/21/douglass_joins_obama_campaign.html

And before someone blurts out "TONY SNOW!" remember that he was not a correspondent. And concerning the "irreversible move," as Douglass put it, it seems that no one has told UNC grad Chris Matthews or George Stephanopoulos, among others:

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"Prior to that, Matthews spent 15 years in politics and government, working in the White House for four years under President Jimmy Carter [D] as a Presidential speechwriter and on the President's Reorganization Project, in the U.S. Senate for five years on the staffs of Senator Frank Moss (Utah) [D] and Senator Edmund Muskie (Maine) [D], and as the top aide to Speaker of the House Thomas P. 'Tip' O'Neill, Jr. [D] for six years."


http://www.cnbc.com/id/15838038/

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"Prior to joining ABC News, Stephanopoulos served in the Clinton [D] administration as the senior advisor to the president for policy and strategy."


http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=133369



[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 3:13 AM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 3:11:37 AM

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last two quotes are old news

5/22/2008 4:10:20 AM

hooksaw
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Context.

Cable Channel Nods to Ratings and Leans Left

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"Having a prime-time lineup that tilts ever more demonstrably to the left could be risky for General Electric, MSNBC's parent company, which is subject to legislation and regulation far afield of the cable landscape. Officials at MSNBC emphasize that they never set out to create a liberal version of Fox News.

'It happened naturally,' Phil Griffin, a senior vice president of NBC News who is the executive in charge of MSNBC, said Friday, referring specifically to the channel's passion and point of view from 7 to 10 p.m. 'There isn't a dogma we're putting through. There is a "Go for it."'"


http://tinyurl.com/45t5rz

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 4:21 AM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 4:12:49 AM

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Matthews and Snufflelufogous are basically identical to your Snow comment.

5/22/2008 7:53:14 AM

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liberal media is like salt water in the ocean. it's just a fact of life.

5/22/2008 8:04:05 AM

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the pendulum in this country is just swinging back left.

a few years ago all the cable news stations were racing to the right for fear of getting further smeared by fox news

5/22/2008 8:44:10 AM

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^^ Name all the conservatives at the networks and cable other than FOX.

5/22/2008 8:44:33 AM

sarijoul
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tucker carlson, pat buchanan (i don't watch cable news, but those are easy ones)

5/22/2008 8:45:24 AM

nutsmackr
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Joe Scarborough and I'd put Lou Dobbs on that list now too.

5/22/2008 8:56:13 AM

hooksaw
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LOL! Start with the networks.

5/22/2008 9:04:57 AM

sarijoul
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tim russert

5/22/2008 9:11:10 AM

nutsmackr
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^^You said at either one. So now that we have provided conservatives on the news channels you are narrowing the scope?

You know what, fuck it. The Conservatives have an entire goddamned fucking channel to themselves.

There is no need to play the hooksaw game where the rules are changed throughout in order to make it seem like he wins.

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 9:17 AM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 9:15:57 AM

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^^

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"Before joining NBC News, Russert served as counselor in New York Governor Mario Cuomo's [D] office in Albany in 1983 to 1984 and was chief of staff to. . .Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan [D] from 1977 to 1982."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Russert

^ You've named about four people and one cable outlet--the liberals and left-wing monnbats have the rest, fool.

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 9:20 AM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 9:18:54 AM

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look at russert today. he might not be a cut and dry partisan, but i'd say he leans more conservative than liberal.

5/22/2008 9:23:35 AM

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A network full of them. But I know what your game is. Woe unto Hooksaw for he is oppressed.

5/22/2008 9:28:03 AM

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saying that media isn't 99.99999999% liberal is like saying the earth isn't revolving around the sun.

it just is.

5/22/2008 9:31:09 AM

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news and observer certainly isn't

most of radio certainly isn't

there's plenty of media to go around. there are plenty of conservative and liberal media outlets (and figures)

5/22/2008 9:47:58 AM

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Americans See Liberal Media Bias on TV News

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"By a 39% to 20% margin, American adults believe that the three major broadcast networks deliver news with a bias in favor of liberals. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 25% believe that ABC, CBS, and NBC deliver the news without any bias.

Similar results are found for CNN and National Public Radio (NPR). By a margin of 33% to 16%, Americans say that CNN has a liberal bias. The nation's adults say the same about NPR by a 27% to 14% margin.

There is one major exception to the belief that media outlets have a liberal bias—Fox News. Thirty-one percent (31%) of Americans say it has a bias that favors conservatives while 15% say it has a liberal bias."


http://tinyurl.com/2wwpek

5/22/2008 10:01:28 AM

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^^ that is true.

you have to remember that the liberal/conservative divide is near 50/50 so there -has- to be a lot of "conservative" outlets that exist.


i think if you were to boil it down to the top 50 most read/watched/listened news outlets, you'd find that the vast majority of them swing for the left.

5/22/2008 10:04:08 AM

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I thought neocons were supposed to be tough. You guys whine so much, you're giving far right nut jobs a bad name.

5/22/2008 10:06:32 AM

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just because you guys use the ACLU and NAACP and other crowds to do your whining constantly for you doesn't mean you're still not a bunch of pussies

5/22/2008 10:15:22 AM

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"saying that media isn't 99.99999999% liberal is like saying the earth isn't revolving around the sun.

it just is."




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"You've named about four people and one cable outlet--the liberals and left-wing monnbats have the rest, fool."


we don't have enough media falling in line with our crazy, neocon ideals

5/22/2008 10:22:39 AM

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"i think if you were to boil it down to the top 50 most read/watched/listened news outlets, you'd find that the vast majority of them swing for the left."


STOP WATCHING ALL MY FAVORITE LIBERAL SHOWS NEOCONS!

5/22/2008 10:23:00 AM

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Here is my lazy list that does not even take into account anchors or election coverage teams.

CNBC
Walter E. Williams
Lawrence Kudlow


Fox News
Chris Wallace
Bill O'Reilly
Robert Novak
Bill Kristol
Charles Krauthammer
Laura Ingraham
Margaret Hoover
Sean Hannity
Greg Gutfeld
Nina Easton
Fred Barnes

ABC
John Stossel

PBS
David Brooks
Jon McLaughlin

MSNBC
Joe Scarborough
Kate O'Beirne
Tucker Carlson
Pat Buchanan

CNN
Amy Holmes
Lou Dobbs

Headline News
Glen Beck

5/22/2008 10:24:40 AM

hooksaw
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^ Fucking pathetic.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oxL0x2gYYS8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QpT5EFpd6gg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tYQeDhGg9j4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E-5eQCa55U0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GaCddX1LCBA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-M7AtHHv1yE

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 10:33 AM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 10:28:49 AM

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we win. lol

5/22/2008 10:31:46 AM

nutsmackr
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Thanks for another person I forgot, John Gibson on Fox News.

how about Alex Castellanos on CNN.

And thanks for reminding me about Neil Cavuto too

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 10:34 AM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 10:32:23 AM

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"we whine. lol"

5/22/2008 10:33:40 AM

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"Thirty-one percent (31%) of Americans say it has a bias that favors conservatives while 15% say it has a liberal bias.""


I take no validity from that survey at all since out of those people they interviewed 15% were actually able to say that they believe fox news has a liberal bias. if they can see a liberal bias in fox news then anything that would be remotely close to balanced would seem extremely liberal to them.

5/22/2008 10:34:06 AM

hooksaw
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^ What percentage of the total do the people you listed represent?

5/22/2008 10:34:42 AM

nutsmackr
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I don't have the numbers on that. And as I said, it was a lazy list that didn't even take into account anchors or election coverage teams.

so no, my posting is nowhere near scientific here. So quit bitching.

5/22/2008 10:36:22 AM

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oh i get nutsmackers list now...
if you ask obama questions like what his favorite color is, or what his hobbies are, you don't get on that list.
but if you are the people who would actually ask obama serious questions, you make nutsmackers list!!

oh joy!

5/22/2008 10:36:39 AM

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its funny that these same people will ask president bush what he had for breakfast and how was his latest vacation. i'm sure that correlation means nothing.

5/22/2008 10:37:34 AM

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"Name all the conservatives at the networks and cable other than FOX."



lou dobbs
joe scarborough
that tucker dude but his show got cancelled like 2 months ago
robert novak use to be on cnn
Alex Castellanos(from nutsmack)
bill bennett former raegan aide
there is some woman...stephanie something..shes a repub

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 11:21 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 11:20:51 AM

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The Liberal Media: It's No Myth

http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/barro/files/bw04_0614.pdf

5/22/2008 12:33:49 PM

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wow, a conservative complaining about a preceived bias. What you have failed to show is whether the reporting was compromised by the leanings of the journalists.

5/22/2008 12:40:50 PM

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The Liberal Media Exposed

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"Surveys over the past 25 years have consistently found that journalists are much more
liberal than rest of America. The Media Research Center has compiled the relevant
data on journalist attitudes, as well as polling showing how the American public's
recognition of the media's liberal bias has grown over the years.

# Journalists Vote for Liberals: Between 1964 and 2004, Republicans won the White
House seven times compared with four Democratic victories. But if only journalists' ballots
were counted, the Democrats would have won every time.

# Journalists Say They Are Liberal: Surveys from 1978 to 2005 show that journalists are
far more likely to say they are liberal than conservative, and are far more liberal than the
public at large.

# Journalists Reject Conservative Positions: None of the surveys have found that news
organizations are populated by independent thinkers who mix liberal and conservative
positions. Most journalists offer reflexively liberal answers to practically every question a
pollster can imagine.

# The Public Recognizes the Bias: Nearly nine out of ten Americans believe journalists
sometimes or often let their personal views influence the way they report the news, and
most say this bias helps liberals. Even a plurality of Democrats agree the press is liberal
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# Denials of Liberal Bias. Many journalists continue to deny the liberal bias that taints
their profession.

# Admissions of Liberal Bias. A number of journalists have admitted that the majority of
their brethren approach the news from a liberal angle."


http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/pdf/BiasBasics.pdf

5/22/2008 1:25:38 PM

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please lock this stupid redundant thread

if you want to bitch and whine do so here:

message_topic.aspx?topic=485359

5/22/2008 1:28:35 PM

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"What you have failed to show is whether the reporting was compromised by the leanings of the journalists."

5/22/2008 1:29:02 PM

hooksaw
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^^ The intent behind this thread is not stupid--but you are. And you and ^ douche bag are complaining about whining?! You're professional fucking whiners! I'm actually just pointing out facts.

In any event, I'm not opposed to this thread being locked. For some reason, I thought the other thread was older than 90 days--my mistake.

5/22/2008 1:35:21 PM

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you are using surveys and polls to state fact. there you have it folks 9 out of 10 Americans think the media has a liberal bias, it must be true.

5/22/2008 1:40:47 PM

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I thought they were profit biased.

5/22/2008 1:44:52 PM

JoeSchmoe
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TONY SNOW!

5/22/2008 1:48:33 PM

hooksaw
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^^^ One asshole on the Internet says it's not true, so he must be right.

Is there any evidence I could produce that would convince you?

5/22/2008 1:52:05 PM

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you're a raving loon

5/22/2008 1:57:04 PM

JoeSchmoe
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seconded

5/22/2008 2:10:19 PM

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^^ and ^ Um. . .if you're going to attack people, I think it's supposed to be in the context of advancing a topic-related argument. FYI.

5/22/2008 2:12:14 PM

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polls and surveys are not facts.

Let's actually look at the polls in question

in the 2000 poll where they got the 9 out of 10 numbers.

We find out by Most Americans it means 47% thought the media was helping Al Gore in the 2000 election. 23% thought it was helping Bush. So what about the remaining 40%?

Let's look at another one of their polls:

September 2006 - 44% of Americans thought the media was too liberal and 19% thought too conservative. Where is the remaining Americans? Don't they count?

2003:

53% of Americans thought the news media was biased.

This is also were we find out what plurality means, only 41% of democrats think the media has a liberal tilt.

Now we have this whopper in 2004:

45% of Americans "thought the media coverage has not been biased toward either candidate."

35% of Americans "said the coverage had been biased in Kerry’s favor"

16% of Americans "thought coverage had been biased in favor of Bush."

And now we have s 2007 survey which makes us wonder what did they mean by plurality originally?

83% of likely voters said the media is biased in one direction or another

97% of Republicans surveyed said the media are liberal

66% of political independents said the media are liberal (had to assume since it didn't provide the real numbers)

Just 66% of Democrats were certain the media skewed right (notice the different wording here)?

17% of Democrats said the bias favored the left (notice the different wording again, and I could have sworn that 17% was not a plurality).

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 2:15 PM. Reason : what do you have to say for your talking points now?]

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 2:16 PM. Reason : ^You complaining about people attacking you...that's rich.]

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 2:31 PM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 2:13:28 PM

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"In any event, I'm not opposed to this thread being locked. For some reason, I thought the other thread was older than 90 days--my mistake.
"


how could you possibly think the other thread was older than 90 days

you posted in it 12 days ago

you just want attention

OMG LIBERAL MEDIA THREAD !!!! WOO WOO WOO, LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!!!!

5/22/2008 2:18:56 PM

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"^^ and ^ Um. . .if you're going to attack people, I think it's supposed to be in the context of advancing a topic-related argument. FYI."


and your incessant use of names like "nutsuckr" are relevant to topics how exactly?

5/22/2008 2:18:57 PM

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