hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
It wasn't a great debut, but I'm just glad MMA is being offered on network television now--everybody can see it. BTW, I wasn't thrilled when I saw that a couple of women would be fighting, but I swear they gave some of the best action--I won't doubt them again.
Quick Results
Kimbo Slice def. James Thompson Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith Gina Carano def. Kaitlin Young Joey Villasenor def. Phil Baroni Brett Rogers def. Jon Murphy Chris Liguori def. Jim Bova Carleton Haselrig def. Carlos Moreno Matt Makowski def. Nick Serra Wilson Reis def. Justin Robbins James "Binky" Jones def. Calvin Kattar Zach Makovsky def. Andre Soares Joe Sampieri def. Mike Groves
http://www.sportsline.com/mmaboxing
http://www.elitexc.com/home
PS: There's this interesting rumor:
Could 'Iron Mike' be in Kimbo's future?
http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/8169544/Could-'Iron-Mike'-be-in-Kimbo's-future? 6/2/2008 3:33:44 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
All I can say is I'm glad I recorded this instead of watching it live. The fighting was good but there was a ton of filler crap in between. In the 150 min of broadcast, maybe 35 minutes of it was actual fighting. 6/2/2008 6:22:40 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, when Carano beat Young though, you just cannot feel good about seeing a woman on there getting the shit beat out of her ... I mean ... Young just stood there and kept taking open punches. 6/2/2008 7:38:56 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
she's a professional fighter
she chose the line of work, why feel sorry for her for getting beat up 6/2/2008 8:12:58 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
plus, she was undefeated and i really appreciate my DVR cutting off and i missed several fights please post videos if you find them online 6/2/2008 8:49:51 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.mmaroot.com/gina-carano-vs-kaitlin-young-elitexc-primetime-video/ 6/2/2008 9:12:05 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
isnt Gina one of the gladiators too. shes a bad ass. i did get to see that fight and it was the best one until my DVR cut off. the Kimbo fight was funny. that dude couldnt last a round in the UFC, PRIDE or (maybe)WEC 6/2/2008 9:13:16 AM |
fatcatt316 All American 3814 Posts user info edit post |
Man, the Gina fight was the best one of the 3 I saw. She messed that girl up, and looked like she was about to choke her out except the bell rang.
The eye poke fight ended too quickly, I felt bad for the guy who wanted to keep fighting.
It looked for sure like Kimbo was about to lose in the 2nd round, he was just lying there motionless almost. I wish they'd let the fight go on at least 10 more seconds, it might've been a more convincing ending then. 6/2/2008 10:00:39 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Kimbo was the headliner. Of course they weren't gonna let him lose. 6/2/2008 2:24:37 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah thats what i was thinking.
but, responding to the poster several above, i completely agree. Kimbo is way too hyped for no reason and would never last with the top 5 in UFC. 6/2/2008 5:09:34 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148447 Posts user info edit post |
he's hyped because of all his street fights on youtube 6/2/2008 5:16:25 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
he wouldn't last with the top 10 in the UFC
ElitXC is garbage. 6/2/2008 5:17:06 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
^^not to be an ass, but DUH 6/2/2008 5:22:01 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ In which he's just beating the fuck out of a bunch of chumps 6/2/2008 5:44:46 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
This is from today's USA Today.
CBS normally draws 4.1 rating in that slot. EliteXC drew 2.7.
However, among the 18-34 demographic, that time slot normally draws 0.7. For 18-34, it was a 271% increase in that demographic (which calculates to a 2.6).
The final national rating does not include the main event between Kimbo and Thompson because it didn't take place til after 11:30. But the overnight rating for that main event from 11:30-11:45 was 4.7.
The strongest region was the South/Sun Belt, which produced the top 10 local ratings for the show. Highest was Oklahoma City at 11.1, followed by Nashville (10.3), New Orleans (9.7), and Memphis (8.4).
(I personally can't speak for OK City, but those last three are traditional pro wrestling strongholds.)
CBS will air three more EliteXC shows, with the next one likely in the fall.
[Edited on June 2, 2008 at 6:06 PM. Reason : /] 6/2/2008 6:05:24 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
and non-hockey towns
[Edited on June 2, 2008 at 6:07 PM. Reason : nashville doesn't count] 6/2/2008 6:07:22 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
MMA: all the faggotry of pro wrestling with none of the cool moves 6/2/2008 6:13:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148447 Posts user info edit post |
all i'm saying is the reason Kimbo is hyped is because of exposure, whether warranted or not 6/2/2008 6:15:24 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
SO THAT'S HOW WE TURN THOSE THEORETICAL DOLLARS INTO REAL DOLLARS 6/2/2008 6:24:28 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Kimbo's got no ground game and he tires easily. A top fighter could get him with a submission hold or tire him and then knock his ass out--one or the other is going to happen soon, trust me.
Like I said, it wasn't a great debut, but the more MMA gets out there the better chance of widespread acceptance. I like MMA better than boxing--but I still like boxing, don't get me wrong.
[Edited on June 2, 2008 at 7:30 PM. Reason : .] 6/2/2008 7:25:31 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "MMA: all the faggotry of pro wrestling with none of the cool moves" |
i dont agree there, there is hardly any faggotry, you dont see cheesy music and intros, guys talking smack, story lines etc and as far as old school pride goes that was far better than any wwe wrestling6/2/2008 9:19:21 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
I'd say that Phil Baroni jackass was right up there on the wwe level. That guy was a joke from the second i saw him. 6/2/2008 10:05:54 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ And "The New York Badass" looked stupid as shit with his nose all busted after coming out wearing something like this:
LOL! 6/2/2008 11:31:03 PM |
ZomBCraw Suspended 6999 Posts user info edit post |
thats how he always comes out, his entire career
theres nothing WWE about it 6/3/2008 12:48:52 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ I don't know if that's addressed to me, but I didn't bring up the WWE or any of that. My point was that when you come out with all that shit on and you get your nose all fucked and get beat, you look stupid.
Tell me you're not a big supporter of "The New York Badass." I mean, you're a student of the Frank Shamrock method, right? Shamrock beat him, right?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=e4QekTB6DCo 6/3/2008 1:31:15 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Baroni sucks. He got his ass kicked by Shamrock AND tested positive for 'Roids after the fight. 6/3/2008 1:58:54 AM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
wow, that right hook by kimbo in that 3rd round to that guys ear was insane. Good to see kimbo dispel some of those rumors about his ground fighting skills. Still needs to learn some of those escapes though. 6/3/2008 3:58:53 AM |
ZomBCraw Suspended 6999 Posts user info edit post |
o my god, so if a guy loses a fight im not supposed to like him?
baroni is an entertainin dude even if he isnt exactly the best eva 6/3/2008 7:33:03 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
baroni, more like gabronie. amirite? 6/3/2008 7:54:24 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "tested positive for 'Roids after the fight." |
yep. ive actually never been a big fan of him. more bark than bite IMO but he can throw down and has very heavy hands
he shrunk the fuck down when he got off that juice6/3/2008 10:13:35 AM |
ZomBCraw Suspended 6999 Posts user info edit post |
that roids test was erroneous and he has been cleared, it was a faulty sample
so no he didnt test positive 6/3/2008 4:28:55 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
he looks a lot smaller now than when he was in Pride whizzanator? 6/3/2008 4:57:43 PM |
ZomBCraw Suspended 6999 Posts user info edit post |
i dont think whizzinators work in athletic commission supervised drug tests....
Pride fighters just looked massive compared to those japanese fighters that tend to not cut weight and fight in the classes they walk around in
cuz almost all of the fighters "looked bigger in pride" 6/3/2008 5:47:47 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
smaller ring area too in pride right?
viewing perspective may be skewed 6/3/2008 5:53:47 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "o my god, so if a guy loses a fight im not supposed to like him?
baroni is an entertainin dude even if he isnt exactly the best eva" |
ZomBCraw
I can accept the latter--that Baroni is entertaining. But can you accept my point that if you're going to come out showboating and dressed like Apollo Creed, you really need to win?
6/4/2008 1:17:42 AM |
KillaB All American 1652 Posts user info edit post |
The WEC fight broadcast on Versus the next night was WAY more entertaining and still free. Faber vs. Pulver was actually a pretty fun fight. And to those people that say Kimbo Slice is over hyped and will be knocked out or submitted by a real fighter in the near future.
You're right. 6/4/2008 7:23:09 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Miguel Torres put on one of the best fights ive seen in a long time and the main event was a freaking war.
i have a man crush on urijah faber 6/4/2008 9:21:59 AM |
TheBrewery All American 1358 Posts user info edit post |
If they didn't know already, every EliteXC fighter now knows how to beat Kimbo. 6/6/2008 5:32:08 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Good to see kimbo dispel some of those rumors about his ground fighting skills. " |
Sarcasm?6/6/2008 6:32:04 PM |