Okay,

Here is the story,

I leave dealership (looking for car). and start out in right lane. I then shift lanes into the left lane going about 30 ish, and accelerate normally. I had seen a truck but it was a ways back. I all the sudden hear brakes behind me. I hit the gas all i could but i got rear ended.

Here are the pictures. I ended up getting supermaned through the windshield and probalby went 20 feet, besides a nasty bump on my shin i seem okay.

Thank god for gear.

7/16/2008 9:32:58 PM

where is the rest of the story? who was at fault? any tickets issued?

7/16/2008 9:41:24 PM

jesus fucking christ ppl are god damn idiots

glad to say you're ok. you're lucky

7/16/2008 9:44:47 PM

Glad to hear you're OK... sorry about your RR

It's pretty insane how the RR is being held up by the F150.
From the pics you got directly rear ended, so they have to be at fault, right?

7/16/2008 9:50:56 PM

i sure hope so. there are very very rare cases of the rear ender so to speak NOT being at fault but this looks like a pretty clear cut case to me..

7/16/2008 9:53:41 PM

that'll buff right out

7/16/2008 9:54:05 PM

well

No tickets,

I guess hes they are tryign to say i cut in front of him, at a low speed or something like that, but thats incorrect.

There is an unnamed witness, so im still waiting on the report. My friends heard the cop say that I was driving recklessly and thats why he wasnt giving the other guy a ticket. Which is bullshit.

Itll probably come down to the witness.

Happend not long ago, so well ahve to see, goign to call my agent tomorrow, hopefully they will go to bat for me.

But yea basically i got butfucked by a f150

7/16/2008 9:58:41 PM

they probably assume reckless driving just from stereotypes of sport bike riders

which is unfortunate

some idiots give all of y'all a bad rap

7/16/2008 10:06:56 PM

glad you're allright, could have been a lot worse.

is anyone on here that rides bike HAVENT been in an accident yet?

7/16/2008 10:35:52 PM

me

7/16/2008 10:36:17 PM

damn Ryan, sorry to hear that, but I'm glad you're okay

Good Luck getting this taken care of.



maybe you can call one of those ambulance chasing attorneys?

7/16/2008 10:41:36 PM

All i want is my bike back in one peice like it was.

7/16/2008 10:50:36 PM

so this is what happens when a nigga tries to tow a truck with a bike

7/16/2008 10:57:57 PM

damn man good to hear you ok ^ WTF

7/16/2008 11:08:09 PM

Poor RR and Ryan. That's pretty crazy no matter how you look at it. I guess there goes those "Built ford tough" commercials since the Honda did more damage to it then the ford did to bike. Where's those Harley Davidson rear end crash pics? Looks exactly like it.

Oh, and what gear did you have? How'd that hold up?

[Edited on July 16, 2008 at 11:31 PM. Reason : ]

7/16/2008 11:29:31 PM

damn, sorry it happened but glad you came out pretty clean it sounds like.

Quote :

"I then shift lanes into the left lane going about 30 ish, and accelerate normally. I had seen a truck but it was a ways back. I all the sudden hear brakes behind me."

what road was this? truck must have been hauling ass if you were going 30+ and he locked up the brakes and still hit you.

Quote :

"is anyone on here that rides bike HAVENT been in an accident yet?"

i don't know, but you definitely win the award for "my bikes have been in more wrecks than me". it's not just tww either, people that ride are starting to go down more and more on other local forums i frequent also. population growth+congestion+ignorant cagers+more bikers=wrecks.

7/17/2008 2:14:58 AM

i've wrecked 4 times

1. tucked the front end by trying to brake hard in a tight corner on my '82 SECA II right after I started riding...only going maybe 10-15 mph when I ate it. I think it broke a brake lever and a mirror or something. gave me a couple of scrapes. no big deal.

2. spun the rear wheel while cranked over and lowsided at about 30-35 on my YZF-600. broke the windshield and levers/mirrors. i was in leather jacket/gloves/jeans. jeans shredded to ribbons almost instantly; rashed up my leg enough to kinda suck, but not enough to warrant a trip to the hospital.

3. was riding my GSX-R 750 with C16H13N2OCL...we got bored on straight 4-lane road heading out to the twisties, so we were taking turns riding wheelies. he'd ride one, sit it down, then i'd ride one until i caught up to him...well, I rode one up to about 110 mph and held it for a little while, and he was going slower than I thought...since I was directly behind him (instead of in the other lane, it was tough to judge closure, and I sat it down just a little too late. i got on the brakes HARD, and needed about 1-2 feet more than I had...my front tire touched his back tire while I was still on the brakes hard, and BOOM! HUUUUGE tankslapper. I was probably going 80 mph or so when I got thrown off. Fortunately I was in full roadrace gear: 1-piece leathers, teknic boots and gloves, full-face helmet, and probably spine armor. I slid down the road like superman for a little ways, then got turned sideways and started tumbling (i just remember seeing groundskygroundskygroundskygroundskygroundskygroundskygroundsky). the bike just slid, and the only damage was scraped/cracked fairings. I picked it up, got it restarted, and rode the shit out of it for about 2 more hours.

I'm glad I didn't take Chad out...that was a real fuckup on my part.


4. about 2-3 weeks later, lowsided the same GSX-R at Deal's Gap at about 50-55 mph. Tore it up pretty badly. I slid on my back, headfirst into a ditch...came out fine, though (again, full roadrace gear).

I still don't know what caused that wreck. I'd eased up my pace considerably (figuring that I'd run out of luck for the day after a few close calls). I was riding a quick pace, but not like I had been earlier in the day. I wasn't going THAT fast or gassing it that hard...didn't see any gravel/sand/leaves in the corner afterwards...maybe the rear shock got heated (sounds like a long shot)? My best guess is that I got on the center painted line without realizing it and gassed it a little harder than I realized.


Finally learned my lesson after that (I think) and started riding with a little bit of restraint.



C16H13N2OCL, motomike/motomikeh, and r1pimpin and I used to ride together a lot. I think we'd had about 2 dozen motorcycle wrecked between the four of us by the time we all graduated NCSU and left the area (some of those were on track, though). I think the worst two injuries out of all those were chad and mike breaking an arm apiece.

[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 4:07 AM. Reason : asdfads]

[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 4:07 AM. Reason : it is a miracle that brian (r1pimpin) is alive, though. very good rider. fucking NUTS, though.]

[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 4:12 AM. Reason : asdfasdasfda]

7/17/2008 4:04:38 AM

I was wearing my hjc helmet (lots of scratches)

Teknic speedstar gloves (little damage on the palm sliders)

Teknic mesh jacket (scrapes and oen rip)

Jeans (nothing i can even see on them)

Some Ariat boots (sraped up to all hell in places)

But yea besides a golf ball sized lump and alot of soreness (feel like i got beaten up) im okay

Damage on the bike..

Ill need a new rear rim, and the rear subframe looks bent up, but i really dont know. Ill see tomorrow.

The truck got its front messed up and the rear fairing busted his AC to all hell.

[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 7:26 AM. Reason : dd]

7/17/2008 7:24:54 AM

you're lucky the bumper went between the tire and subframe, if it had hit you right on the tail it could have ben a lot worse

7/17/2008 8:02:40 AM

are you gonna buy it back if it gets totalled and fix it, or sell it and upgrade?

7/17/2008 8:33:00 AM

^^ That's exactly what I was thinking....

As for Igor's question-- I haven't wrecked on a street bike yet. As long as there is seat & something of a road I seem to do just fine

[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM. Reason : gasgas... lol]

7/17/2008 11:14:16 AM

If total ill buy it back. Really thinkign about a VFR

7/17/2008 11:34:58 AM

It seems to me that "reckless driving" would be hard to explain when the truck tried to run over you, unless of course you were doing endos in the middle of the road.

7/17/2008 3:38:43 PM

7/17/2008 3:49:26 PM

BWHAHHAA ^

[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 3:55 PM. Reason : ...fail!]

7/17/2008 3:54:43 PM

what was the speed limit

7/17/2008 4:27:53 PM

pretty steep road you were on from the look of those pics

glad you're ok though

7/17/2008 4:35:13 PM

good way to secure your bike so that no one steals it...

7/17/2008 8:34:30 PM

I was on capital infront of bobby murry chevorleigh

7/17/2008 9:16:35 PM

So the speed limit was 45 there or so?

That guy must've been asleep when he hit you. At least based on your description, I mean.

Glad you're alright, and that picture is sure to give you a story to tell. I've never seen anything like that before.

7/17/2008 9:52:21 PM

oh cool a c6

7/18/2008 3:45:09 AM

well the guy and the cop are sayign i didnt have enough room to get to 30 mph (i certainly do on a bike)from leavint the station.

The police officer seemed more inclined to bleive that that guy was going 40 and i was going 10.

7/18/2008 7:50:42 AM

did you get a ticket at all? i dont understand, whats the problem here? let the insurance companies or 1800motorcycle figure it out. in the meantime, get checked out by a doctor, drive a car and try not to get in any more trouble.

7/18/2008 8:27:58 AM

Does anyone know about insurance?

In any case the other guy actually filed against my insurance first.

I haven't filed against his, however my company said that they will gather up all the relevant evidence and submit it for me.

should i trust this,

I def want him paying for this crap.

no tickets were issued either way.

I guess they will work it out.

[Edited on July 18, 2008 at 8:48 AM. Reason : dd]

7/18/2008 8:47:22 AM

glad you're ok man

7/18/2008 9:08:13 AM

the insurance companies have hundreds of lawyers on payroll who will be fighting for their clients. experience says that since HE hit YOU that the insurance companies will find him at fault. meaning you get paid. the only thing you have to worry about is if you actually pulled out when you shouldnt have, AND his insurance company can somehow prove that.

7/18/2008 10:37:30 AM

^^^excerpt from http://www.carinsurance.com/kb/content34677.aspx

Quote :

"North Carolina applies contributory negligence to auto accidents. This means that if you are even slightly at fault in a collision you are not entitled to any recovery against the other driver. Any disagreement you have with the other party's insurer regarding their determination of fault would ultimately have to be resolved in a court of law if you cannot come to an agreement with them on your own. So if they somehow find you 1% at fault and you do not feel you were at fault in any way (and this is just a way to get out of paying your claim) you would likely need to take your claim to court."

[Edited on July 18, 2008 at 11:03 AM. Reason : quote]

7/18/2008 11:01:30 AM

I wonder if there's a traffic cam somewhere nearby?

7/18/2008 1:25:14 PM

Its hard for me to believe that it is not at least partially your fault if you knew the guy was back there and pulled out in front of him. Im glad your OK but I dont agree with everyone saying it was his fault. Sounds to me like you messed up.

7/18/2008 1:48:35 PM

^ he said he saw the truck, if it was close to him im sure he could have sped up or gotten back in the right lane. the truck driver was probably texting or messing with the radio.

7/18/2008 3:35:31 PM

Did he lock the brakes up? Cant they measure his tracks to determine if the truck was speeding?

If so, that should be all on him as he pulled out thinking that he had enough time before the truck got to him had the truck been going the speed limit.

7/18/2008 4:01:23 PM

My experience has been that with insurance in North Carolina, if it's not 100% his fault, you're paying for your own shit. And since the cop didn't write him a ticket, you're probably not gonna have much luck saying it was 100% his fault. Chances are, you're paying for your own shit. Or your insurance is.

7/18/2008 4:26:31 PM

i just dont see how he sees the truck, decides he has enough time to pull out, putts up to 30mph, hears tires squealing, gets rearended by a fucking explorer and only goes over the handlebars?

if he was going slow and the truck fast, he would havent been able to hold on and went onto the hood/into the grille backwards.

if he was going 30 though, and the truck going 45, or 55, or whatever locks up it brakes long enough to be somewhere near 30mph or less then he would have been able to hold on until the bigger mass stops (explorer speed hits zero) then be thrown over the handlebars (like he claims)

Im no fucking scientist but it should be fairly easy to tell from the skidmark measurements on the accident report, and weight estimates of the vehicles. is it online yet?

7/18/2008 5:42:38 PM

not online yet. The truck had abs, so no skid marks that i can see. After it contacted my bike, i looked, i woudl estimate 40 foot skid (maby more), from the truck and my bike coming to a stop, possibly more.

it was 7/16/2008

My last name is palmer

[Edited on July 18, 2008 at 8:46 PM. Reason : dd]

btw i flew forward about 30 feet

[Edited on July 18, 2008 at 8:47 PM. Reason : dd]

7/18/2008 8:45:46 PM

jethromoore and JIP2587 are dead on. it's supposed to protect against fraud, but unfortunately it's mostly just an abused loophole for companies to escape liability. the fact that even the police didn't find the guy at fault could really hurt.

Quote :

"the insurance companies have hundreds of lawyers on payroll who will be fighting for their clients. the insurance companies"

fixed. it just happens that your interests are generally the same as your insurance company in such a situation.

7/18/2008 8:59:46 PM

Quote :

"well the guy and the cop are sayign i didnt have enough room to get to 30 mph "

HAHA, a sportbike can accelerate to 30 mph in, like the width of the road.

7/19/2008 4:16:01 AM

yeah seriously, It's like a blip to accelerate from 0-30. My sneezes last longer then that... And ppl on capital are speed demons. Since we have (or had) the same bike, I can provide a demonstration to both the cop and the guy for court purposes...

7/19/2008 5:25:01 AM

Quote :

"OBJECTS IN MIRRORS ARE CLOSER THAN THEY APPEAR"

7/19/2008 11:18:44 PM

plz, never trust mirrors on bikes, besides, they are mostly worthless. That's why I don't ride with any. Easy to just turn your head and look. Unless you are about to go into a turn, look back then find yourself going off road at 100mph+ into a grassy field missing the mail box and telephone pole by a foot...

7/20/2008 1:54:55 AM

Quote :

"OBJECTS IN MIRROR ARE ABOUT TO DISAPPEAR"

7/20/2008 1:56:16 AM