Sgt Hartman Veteran 427 Posts user info edit post |
So the boss calls me in the morning, gets the HR director on the phone, and they tell me my position has been terminated due to budget cuts. Actually not a bad thing because this job kinda sucked and they gave me two months of severance pay.
I know a lot of you have worked with headhunters and similar agencies when you were looking for work. I'm a marketing professional with 3 years experience and some internships before that. Is that something headhunters can work with?
I have to say, though, despite being laid off I'm feeling pretty good...and that's not the beer speaking 7/23/2008 2:28:25 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
I'd be feeling good too if I got paid for 2 months to just sit on my ass and get drunk.
but honeslty, there are so many staffing agencies out there now that they can find just about any type of job. 7/23/2008 2:35:08 PM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
go join the competition 7/23/2008 2:51:37 PM |
stone All American 6003 Posts user info edit post |
go into business for your self 7/23/2008 3:07:15 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
that money will go a lot faster when you're not at work for 8+ hours a day i bet, although it's awesome if you get the pay and get picked up on a new job asap 7/23/2008 3:10:07 PM |
TroopofEchos All American 12212 Posts user info edit post |
severance pay is nice but seriously start looking for something right away it took me alot longer to find a job after my last one than i ever anticipated 7/23/2008 4:16:57 PM |
dubus Veteran 311 Posts user info edit post |
^ agreed. I was lucky with mine (although it didn't start that way). I was laid off with about 20 other people after my 4th day of work from an IT position. I only got 2 weeks severance, but managed to live decently for 2 months until I found something. Turns out I had one job offer from using a headhunter and one that came to me because another company wanted to hire 15 of us to expand their company into Raleigh. Thank god everyone in the industry knows how good we really are, and how stupid the company was. They laid us off and we were the only team that produced profit. Needless to say I now work for the same people and we get subcontracted to our old company since they don't have anyone to do the work :p
Do everything you know to do (online, headhunter, etc) to find a job, including looking into companies your friends work/have worked at even if they were/are in a different dept. They could give you good contacts. 7/23/2008 4:27:00 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
can you still collect unemployment even though you got a 2 month severence? 7/23/2008 4:36:45 PM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
nope
[Edited on July 23, 2008 at 4:37 PM. Reason : after the severence ends - yes] 7/23/2008 4:37:05 PM |
Sgt Hartman Veteran 427 Posts user info edit post |
Oh don't worry, I'm not sitting around getting drunk. I had one beer when I got home and I've already sent out 6 resumes and I've got an appointment with a job counselor set up for next week. It's just weird knowing that I don't have to go to the office tomorrow. My new job is trying to get a new job, and that's a work-at-home situation 7/23/2008 4:44:12 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
join the Marines. Hoo-rah 7/23/2008 4:45:20 PM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
I had an awesome time on severence and unemployment for 2 months when I got laid off... my 360 and Wii were getting abused daily 7/23/2008 4:50:51 PM |
FykalJpn All American 17209 Posts user info edit post |
Ooh-rah* 7/23/2008 4:55:13 PM |
wolfpack0122 All American 3129 Posts user info edit post |
I've been laid off twice and have never gotten a severence package 7/23/2008 5:42:45 PM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
join the Army. 7/23/2008 5:57:02 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43412 Posts user info edit post |
I've been laid off for 3 weeks (as of tomorrow) and despite not getting severance pay and being pretty broke its not bad at all. A summer vacation of sorts. I had a job offer this week but turned it down. Have a few interviews lined up for the beginning of August.
In the meantime I'm enjoying myself 7/23/2008 6:15:02 PM |
Sgt Hartman Veteran 427 Posts user info edit post |
Okay, so today I'm heading out to look for some part time jobs to keep me busy while I'm job hunting. I'm thinking somewhere I'd like to get an employee discount would be pretty sweet. And close to my apartment so I don't waste gas getting there.
Also, not getting up to go to the office this morning was fucking amazing 7/24/2008 12:28:15 PM |
sd2nc All American 9963 Posts user info edit post |
If you have any contacts that need high-end technology or computer training courseware/texts, I'll pay a 10% referral fee/commission on any order. 7/24/2008 12:41:33 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
i soooooooooo want to make a parody of this 7/24/2008 1:00:25 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Just laid...now what? 7/24/2008 3:36:24 PM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
first off, don't call us headhunters. As cool as the name sounds, that's the fastest way to get your resume thrown in the trash. Not all of us make commission, and some of us actually do give a shit about finding you a job you'll love and care about. 7/24/2008 7:20:54 PM |
Sgt Hartman Veteran 427 Posts user info edit post |
Then what are you, recruiters? Job placement specialists? Also, where do I find good people who do such services? I know people who have been burned before by being strung along about a job that they were never going to get.
[Edited on July 24, 2008 at 7:42 PM. Reason : ] 7/24/2008 7:42:05 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sayer: first off, don't call us headhunters. As cool as the name sounds, that's the fastest way to get your resume thrown in the trash" |
oh, get over your bad self, already.
Quote : | "I know a lot of you have worked with headhunters and similar agencies when you were looking for work. I'm a marketing professional with 3 years experience and some internships before that. Is that something headhunters can work with?" |
hell yea. call up the head hunters and the professional placement services (manpower, aerotek, etc.) -- as well as contacting ever potential employer directly ... use this time to find the job YOU want.
but you pretty much have to approach job hunting itself like a full time job. dont leave it up to the headhunters, they're just a resource. and if you get one thats all whiny and shit like Sayer ... fire him. you dont want whiners trying to sell your resume to employers.
hit all the employment boards and forums and spend the time finding the best place to work with a job that will give you most opportunity for advancement and career learning.
you're in a great position, really.
[Edited on July 24, 2008 at 8:23 PM. Reason : ]7/24/2008 8:21:35 PM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, we're recruiters. If you are working with someone who expects you to pay them before they find you something... stop talking to that person. (those are the headhunters)
Good recruiters will actually take the time to talk to you, find out what's important to you, and make an active effort to build a relationship with you. By understanding what motivates you, they can better find a good fit for you. If you feed them bullshit, they're just going to come back to you with bullshit jobs.
Additionally, sit down and think about what IS important to you and don't be afraid to to say that to someone trying to find you a job. Make a list and rank it from most important to least important. Almost no one finds a job that is 100% exactly what they want, so be realistic with yourself when deciding what is negotiable.
Lastly, be realistic when it comes to the salary or rate you are looking for. If you tell a recruiter you're only interested in jobs paying X.. and X is way above your skills and what they're worth, then you're not going to get any calls back from that recruiter because they will never have any jobs paying that much for you. 7/24/2008 8:24:48 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^ headhunters in general dont charge in advance. But you're right, the one thing you DONT do, is use any service that costs YOU money. thats the first sign of a scam.
another thing you should try (worked for me) is find the places that are using employment services (like manpower, aerotek, etc) and then try and find a way to contact the company directly. usually it involves digging around a bit, because they dont just advertise who the company is.
[Edited on July 24, 2008 at 8:27 PM. Reason : ] 7/24/2008 8:25:29 PM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "headhunters in general dont charge in advance." |
yeah, but this is dancing around the point I'm trying to make. Headhunters charge YOU at some point for finding you a job. Recruiters charge the company they place you at.7/24/2008 8:30:46 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^I've never heard that before.
The distinction I've always made is that:
Recruiters have ties and good repore with companies they help staff for. Usually pretty large firms, who care as much about who you are and what you want, as they do about placing you in an open position.
Headhunters usually go after bigger, single client positions to fill very narrow skillset or high experience jobs. They tend to prep you for the single opportunity, and go where the money (and demand) is. Generally individuals with industry ties.
Each side has ups and downs. 7/24/2008 9:12:45 PM |
moe All American 683 Posts user info edit post |
Post your resume on monster and hotjobs. Then use indeed.com and simplyhired.com as your search engines. That's what I did when I was laid off a few months ago and it was quite painless. I was able to find a good job before my severance ran out. 7/24/2008 9:48:37 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^^ what noen just said 7/25/2008 12:50:53 AM |
Sgt Hartman Veteran 427 Posts user info edit post |
I'm working the alumni directory, calling up alums at companies I'm interested in and striking up conversation. So far it's working well, lots of resumes forwarded on to the decision makers. I've only be at this plan since last Wednesday, so I can't tell if it's working yet. But it beats the hell out of looking at online postings all day.
Also, I got a recruiter at Manpower but they haven't done shit yet. 8/4/2008 12:22:40 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
thats actually a really good idea if you have any sort of interpersonal relationship skills
and balls
two things a lot of kids in their 20's lack 8/4/2008 9:50:48 PM |
jessiejepp All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My new job is trying to get a new job, and that's a work-at-home situation" |
i guess that's a nice, optimistic way of looking at it. 8/5/2008 6:31:05 AM |
wolfpack0122 All American 3129 Posts user info edit post |
I'm getting laid off at the end of the month. No package or anything but at least I got decent notice
Damn housing industry 9/9/2008 12:32:49 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
^Do you actually do work, or still care? Or do you just spend the time looking for a new job? 9/9/2008 8:07:31 AM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
if any of those recruiters call you, NEVER take their first offer. 9/9/2008 8:58:19 AM |
Gzusfrk All American 2988 Posts user info edit post |
My sister was laid off yesterday. She went in for work and left within the hour. No severance pay or anything. 9/9/2008 9:07:40 AM |
RawWulf All American 9126 Posts user info edit post |
I was laid off in June.
I finally start a new job on Monday
thank God for severance and unemployment. 9/9/2008 10:20:46 AM |
wolfpack0122 All American 3129 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you actually do work, or still care? Or do you just spend the time looking for a new job? " |
Well, I still work, but I can't look for another job while I'm working. I'm a superintendent out in the field so I don't have access to a computer or anything until I get home from work
although my work ethic has seem to have gone down...
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 12:24 PM. Reason : stuff]9/9/2008 12:22:07 PM |