MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
I used to really enjoy watching these shows...but lately it's gotten to be too consistently pro-democrat. Come on guys. 9/3/2008 8:10:59 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Daily Show must have lost some of their better writers because the funniest thing I've seen on the show in the past few months has been Brian Williams showing up for interviews... And yeah, they've been going very pro-democrat lately... every once in a while they take a half-hearted shot at Obama's hope-isms, but that's about it. Though they were pretty steadfastly anti-Hilary, which I can't say I have a problem with.
Colbert Report was founded on him pretending to be a neo-con, and it's consistently been funny based on that. No need to change there. 9/3/2008 8:24:29 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
^I know about Colbert...but still he seemed to attack Democrats in clever ways sometimes. 9/3/2008 8:32:16 PM |
eraser All American 6733 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, Colbert seems much more 'balanced' in that respect.
And I have noticed how the Daily Show has had a definite lean lately. Not sure what exactly to attribute it too. One argument a long time ago was "well, Republicans are on top right now and therefore there is a lot more to make fun of." 9/3/2008 8:38:09 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
I think it has more to do with the republican party being fucked 10 ways till sunday more so than any particular political leaning. 9/3/2008 8:39:45 PM |
eraser All American 6733 Posts user info edit post |
And that could be true too. 9/3/2008 8:40:30 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
colbert is definitely better. 9/3/2008 8:46:37 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
Both shows are great at making fun of the republican party because they give them so much material to work with 9/3/2008 8:46:46 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
zing 9/3/2008 8:56:44 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
they do make fun of both parties whenever possible.
however, it's never exactly been a secret that Jon Stewart, the correspondents, and likely the writers, are all extremely liberal. Therefore, I don't know why they should try to be "fair and balanced". They're a comedy fake-news show - not an impartial, balanced observer, nor have they ever claimed to be.
The recent swing even further to the left, I see as Jon Stewart taking control and simply saying "i think what's going on in the country now is fucked up, and i'm going to do my part to expose it and sway people's position". And that's his right - it's his show. 9/3/2008 9:22:03 PM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
Not to say that Stewart and Colbert don't lean left to begin with, but come on, the Republicans have been providing them with a real wealth of material these past few days. 9/4/2008 1:12:37 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have noticed how the Daily Show has had a definite lean lately. Not sure what exactly to attribute it to" |
the problem with the Daily Show is Stewart goes back and forth between trying to be funny and trying to be serious...pick one of the two...Colbert plays his character perfectly and never strays from it...Stewart is joking around one minute and then trying to say some serious political shit the next...doesnt work
its like he wants people to take him seriously, but then when somebody calls him out on something, he just says "hey this is a comedy show"]9/4/2008 1:15:56 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ That by far is the most i've ever agreed with you on a post. 9/4/2008 1:19:36 AM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but come on, the Republicans have been providing them with a real wealth of material these past few days" |
9/4/2008 1:21:07 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
the past few days, definitely, but this TDS trend has been going on longer than that 9/4/2008 1:22:27 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^It works for me.
And about 1.5 million other people who watch each night.
[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 1:23 AM. Reason : Slow.] 9/4/2008 1:23:10 AM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
the Daily Show seems pro-Democrat?
No...
Really?
you're joking?
I mean, that show, under John Stewart, has never seen a Democratic President. If that happens...then where's the funnay supposed to come from? 9/4/2008 1:30:13 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
i like how Colbert always addresses the audience/cameras with "Nation..." 9/4/2008 1:33:33 AM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the problem with the Daily Show is Stewart goes back and forth between trying to be funny and trying to be serious...pick one of the two...Colbert plays his character perfectly and never strays from it...Stewart is joking around one minute and then trying to say some serious political shit the next...doesnt work
its like he wants people to take him seriously, but then when somebody calls him out on something, he just says "hey this is a comedy show"" |
Agree with you on that; I'm sure he gets his kicks when a significant portion of the population views him as a primary source for news...9/4/2008 1:37:54 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
I never knew Matt Damon was such a Michael Winslow 9/4/2008 1:43:35 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Colbert is infinitely better.
He's of course making fun of neo-cons, but he often addresses valid criticisms of democratic policies and issues, he just does it in an over the top conservative manner. 9/4/2008 1:44:42 AM |
DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He's of course making fun of neo-cons, but he often addresses valid criticisms of democratic policies and issues, he just does it in an over the top conservative manner." |
Really? When, exactly? Most of the time, it seems like he's lobbing softballs but putting on the over-the-top fake conservative schtick. Which, while funny sometimes, is really grating when he's got a left-wing moonbat like Naomi Klein on the show that he just lets get away with murder.
That being said, when he steps away from pitching softballs for Team Blue, some of his original material is pretty excellent. For instance, the Point/Counterpoint on ANWR drilling and three-card monte? Pure awesomesauce.
That being said, the prospect of John Stewart fellating every "serious" Democrat who walks on the show and alternatively, John McCain (before, that is, he became the credible threat to Democratic presidential ambitions) is just too much to bear. Hell, even when he's being confrontational with McCain he can't just stop acting like the man is a demigod.
Free comedy tip - it's funnier when it doesn't look like one-sided propaganda.
[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 1:53 AM. Reason : .]9/4/2008 1:51:09 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I agree that Colbert is grating. I'm not a big fan.
I love Stewart and the Show. Last night's episode deserves an award. Best one I've seen in a while. 9/4/2008 6:19:07 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH. PEOPLE ON THE TV BOX DON'T AGREE WITH ME WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH 9/4/2008 7:31:33 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the problem with the Daily Show is Stewart goes back and forth between trying to be funny and trying to be serious...pick one of the two...Colbert plays his character perfectly and never strays from it...Stewart is joking around one minute and then trying to say some serious political shit the next...doesnt work
its like he wants people to take him seriously, but then when somebody calls him out on something, he just says "hey this is a comedy show"" |
this has always been his problem9/4/2008 8:41:43 AM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
I'll admit their bias, but they're not a "real" news show anyways, so what the fuck does it matter?
This is from last night, really entertaining side by side of the Republicans view of the issues surrounding Sarah Palin before and after she was announced as McCain's running mate...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card 9/4/2008 9:13:17 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
Its just too easy. 9/4/2008 9:58:07 AM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
^^classic
these people are a fuckin' joke
[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 10:12 AM. Reason : .] 9/4/2008 10:08:49 AM |
dagreenone All American 5971 Posts user info edit post |
IF YOU DON"T AGREE WITH THE SHOW DON'T WATCH IT. 9/4/2008 10:28:29 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
I watched the Laura D'Andrea Tyson interview and he let her get away with murder...most times he plays the overzealous conservative and interupts, but he just let her babble away. Shit was weak. 9/4/2008 10:40:12 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm sure he gets his kicks when a significant portion of the population views him as a primary source for news..." |
9/4/2008 10:44:42 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The recent swing even further to the left, I see as Jon Stewart taking control and simply saying "i think what's going on in the country now is fucked up, and i'm going to do my part to expose it and sway people's position". And that's his right - it's his show." |
its b/c he is 100% correct. this country is fucked up.9/4/2008 11:18:00 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
worst country in the world
man i went to the movie store yesterday and they didnt even have the dvd i wanted...i had to rent a different dvd to watch in my air conditioned apartment...man this country SUCKS!!1 9/4/2008 11:18:48 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
That is precisely the metric we should be using. Whether or not TreeTwista can watch a DVD in an air conditioned apartment. 9/4/2008 11:21:48 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
dont you hate when people are talking on cellphones in a restaurant? man i want to kill them! usa sucks
THESE ARE SERIOUS PROBLEMS] 9/4/2008 11:24:47 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
The fact that you picked such trivial issues shows how fucking retarded you are. 9/4/2008 11:29:18 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
the fact that you dont see what i'm doing shows how fucking retarded YOU are 9/4/2008 11:30:04 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
trolling? 9/4/2008 11:31:57 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
none of which has to do with failed domestic policies, the rising debt, the stagnant economy and the monetary drain which is the war in Iraq and our oil glut. 9/4/2008 11:32:27 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this country is fucked up." |
please tell me how fucked up this country is for you personally
don't come with anything about how some people are homeless or can't get food...how specifically is this country fucked up for you...how is your life so bad...this question is for everyone
cause frankly i see a bunch of whiny babies who don't realize how good we have it...people being unappreciative makes me sick9/4/2008 11:33:22 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 11:36 AM. Reason : ] 9/4/2008 11:35:39 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
I think the problem is you're assuming that when someone says that this country has problems, that it means they personally have problems.
I can say that there are things this country could probably do better, that as a whole this country isn't perfect. Does it make my life hell? No, I'm pretty satisfied with my life, but that doesn't mean things couldn't be better.
its just people being melodramatic with their words, yourself included.
[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 11:37 AM. Reason : .] 9/4/2008 11:36:02 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "cause frankly i see a bunch of whiny babies who don't realize how good we have it...people being unappreciative makes me sick" |
really, what thread are you reading
b/c i dont see any of that bull9/4/2008 11:36:36 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "don't come with anything about how some people are homeless or can't get food...how specifically is this country fucked up for you...how is your life so bad...this question is for everyone" |
That's the problem. You only think about you. We are selecting the President of the United States, not the President of TreeTwista's perfectly functionaly and in no way fucked up life.
A country that is incapable of helping its worst off is a country that is incapable of helping itself.9/4/2008 11:37:54 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's the problem. You only think about you." |
I also know our poor people have it a lot better off than poor people in many other countries
I mean if you want to speak out about the injustices and flaws of our country on behalf of the poor or homeless or people who don't have as loud of a voice, thats fine, but realize that other people see it as a privileged person bitching about how other people have it bad...doesn't seem too sincere...makes it seem like the people complaining are trivializing people who have it REALLY bad...hence my comments about not having a DVD...first all I download my movies...maybe I should've said "man this fucking sucks, I'm only getting 50kb/s, at this rate its gonna take hours to get this 700MB file...fuck me!"...thats what America comes across as nowadays...spoiled
note: i don't think everyone of you is like that by any means, but thats definitely a vibe i get from much of the COUNTRY as a whole nowadays]9/4/2008 12:17:26 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Our system of measurement of how well we are doing as a society should not be, nor should it ever be a comparison to some third world hell hole. 9/4/2008 12:35:56 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card This is a pretty good clip. 9/4/2008 1:06:22 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Tree, you're fooling yourself if you don't think the erosion of civil rights and personal liberties, the surge in theocratic-type thinking, and the increasing outwardly aggression of this country won't effect you at some point in the future, much less future generations 9/4/2008 1:13:22 PM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the problem with the Daily Show is Stewart goes back and forth between trying to be funny and trying to be serious...pick one of the two...Colbert plays his character perfectly and never strays from it...Stewart is joking around one minute and then trying to say some serious political shit the next...doesnt work
its like he wants people to take him seriously, but then when somebody calls him out on something, he just says "hey this is a comedy show" |
Problem? I don't see it as a problem. Instead, I view it as the solution to addressing very large problems that most Americans overlook or simply forget. The point of satire is to attack the foolishness inherent in humanity by simply making fun of it. Jon works through a "fiction" (his fake news show) that is clearly transparent to how he honestly feels. He mocks himself and his show to alleviate criticism, but that tactic is an inherent aspect of utilizing satire to sway opinions. One of the main reasons his show has been such an influential program for so many years is that no one of any political affiliation is above or below his criticism, including himself.
[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 1:22 PM. Reason : -]9/4/2008 1:19:13 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "his show has been such an influential program for so many years" |
that really makes our country look bad, i mean bad9/4/2008 1:25:06 PM |