on Wednesday Nov 5
i'm gonna drive around the streets of Seattle
with a huge US Flag
flying from the back of my Subaru







and all the mavericks in the house
will throw their hands up









Discuss.






[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 1:51 AM. Reason : ]

10/29/2008 1:46:57 AM

Get it back?

How did you lose it?

10/29/2008 1:53:59 AM

dontcha know? that motherfucker was Hijacked. On the day we were Bushwhacked.

10/29/2008 1:59:02 AM

I certainly hope you've been wearing your flag pin since then. Don't want to look like some kind of turr'rist.

10/29/2008 1:59:47 AM

no i havent.

and that's my point.

6 days.

i get my flag BACK.

6 days.

my flag will not longer represent xenophobic nationalism, fascist gunbarrel democracy, politics of fear and division.

i can fly it again.

10/29/2008 2:05:32 AM

OH, you're using metaphors.

Carry on, then.

10/29/2008 2:09:06 AM

um. no. im serious.

10/29/2008 2:22:12 AM

just another day for me...prolly be working

10/29/2008 3:03:03 AM

dirty liberal.

i can't wait for the day when "liberal" is no longer a curse word.

10/29/2008 7:35:00 AM

I can't wait for the day when "conservative" has an actually meaning again... lately it's just been a buzzword for the GOP to describe their liberal policies.

10/29/2008 7:53:54 AM

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Don%27t+count+chickens

10/29/2008 8:26:32 AM

I don't usually post in TSB, but here goes...

I completely agree with this thread.

10/29/2008 10:03:13 AM

I agree with ^

10/29/2008 10:07:23 AM

I found your flag, schmoe. Obama's comrade Bill Ayers had it.

10/29/2008 10:12:34 AM

I actually watched a doc about the Ayers a couple months ago.

pretty interesting stuff

10/29/2008 10:24:40 AM

Quote :

"I can't wait for the day when "conservative" has an actually meaning again... lately it's just been a buzzword for the GOP to describe their liberal policies."

10/29/2008 10:25:42 AM

Quote :

"Guilty as hell. Free as a bird. America is a great country."

--Bill Ayers

Yeah, very interesting.

10/29/2008 10:34:44 AM

Quote :

""Your vision is a sacred trust... You are a sanctuary of a sacred vision for a renewed America... Envision it... Say it... Feel it... Believe it... Make it our reality... Manifest Obama, America!""

The Messiah...Obama Be Thy Name

10/29/2008 10:48:25 AM

Obama Likens United States to Nazi Germany

(On January 18, 2001, under "The Court and Civil Rights" heading.)

Quote :

"I mean you've got World War II, you've got uh, uh, uh, the doctrines of Nazism, that, that we are fighting against, that start looking uncomfortably similar to what we have going on, back here at home."

http://www.wbez.org/audio_library/od_rajan01.asp#010118

More Saul Alinsky-inspired far-left bullshit.

10/29/2008 11:04:36 AM

haha this guy is totally gonna be president

i missed conservative bitching there for awhile

10/29/2008 11:26:24 AM

^ Keep up the overconfidence--it works in our favor.

Quote :

"Obama is so far ahead now, it seems the only way he can lose is if supporters screw it up. But, aha, Obama's supporters have a secret weakness. They're Democrats."

--Craig Ferguson

10/29/2008 11:32:26 AM

How could you have had a flag in the first place, Joe? I mean, you DO live in Fake America, right?

10/29/2008 11:36:49 AM

hookie i dont really care either way. Im not even voting.

I just think you're dumb

10/29/2008 11:40:38 AM

Quote :

"Obama Likens United States to Nazi Germany (On January 18, 2001, under "The Court and Civil Rights" heading.) "I mean you've got World War II, you've got uh, uh, uh, the doctrines of Nazism, that, that we are fighting against, that start looking uncomfortably similar to what we have going on, back here at home." http://www.wbez.org/audio_library/od_rajan01.asp#010118 More Saul Alinsky-inspired far-left bullshit. "

Aspects of America are looking more and more fascist. (The party you support, in fact.)

10/29/2008 11:49:18 AM

Quote :

"i can't wait for the day when "liberal" is no longer a curse word."

I can't wait for the word liberal to actually mean what it use to, and what it still does in the rest of the world.

10/29/2008 11:56:31 AM

which is?

10/29/2008 12:03:12 PM

more badass?

10/29/2008 12:26:15 PM

Obama is not a messiah of any sort. its only republicans who think this is an issue.

the views obama holds are essentially in agreement with every thoughtful, rational, progressive person across this nation.

what obama does is elucidate these commonly held values in a way that is inspiring. he's able to speak not only to liberal democrats, but moderate independents and even rational conservatives in a way that is inclusive, and not the typical partisan attempts to divide and conquer.

whats REALLY important is that Obama surrounds himself with experts in the various fields to advise him. John McCain apparently doesnt have a single scientist advising him on any policy matters.

10/29/2008 1:31:57 PM

You posted a picture of the wrong flag joe.

10/29/2008 1:44:36 PM

Quote :

"the views obama holds are essentially in agreement with every thoughtful, rational, progressive person across this nation. "

meh . . . .. .Im gonna disagree here



Listen Im glad you are excited your Candidate is about to win (Hell, to me its impressive you are even excited about a candidate)

But

Do you actually think Obama is going to "change" that much? My prediction is that he will be another politician working in the same system. If he were going to "change" things, the establishment never would allow him to win.

If in fact Obama does become president and fixes everything (or even a few things) then please call me out and I will gladly eat my words. Until then I remain skeptical.


(note Im niether a McCain or Obama supporter)

10/29/2008 1:51:01 PM

^ fair enough. that is my secret fear.

but overall, im hopeful.

if it turns out as you say, im just going to say fuck it and become a shrill partisan hack.












oh.... wait.

10/29/2008 2:14:02 PM

You're never going to get any change in a strong federal government. Just more corruption, abuse, and waste.

10/29/2008 2:20:31 PM

actually, you still have the lame duck period

10/29/2008 3:03:22 PM

Isn't the fact that he's already beaten Hillary in the primaries indication that he might be able to overcome the political system we currently have?

10/29/2008 3:55:42 PM

Quote :

""the views obama holds are essentially in agreement with every thoughtful, rational, progressive person across this nation. "

x 10 ^9

10/29/2008 3:58:45 PM

Quote :

"You're never going to get any change in a strong federal government. Just more corruption, abuse, and waste."

10/29/2008 4:02:08 PM

^^ now come on. Who ever accused you of being "thoughtful, rational, and progressive" ??

i mean, really.

10/29/2008 4:50:01 PM

lol, Joe drives a Subaru. You can't make this stuff up

10/29/2008 4:54:51 PM

fuck yea I drive a subaru.

Subaru Outback AWD FTW. good for the crazy hills in the city of Seattle, i can drive to Paradise Inn on Mt. Rainier for a day hike, or I can throw my sea kayaks on top and drive out to the San Juans.

now what'chu got?

yeah, that's what i thought.

10/29/2008 4:59:36 PM

At the state fair I saw American flag balloons...shaped like machine guns...

I hate what the past 8 years have done to the Banner.

10/29/2008 4:59:55 PM

you must live in one of those places that palin doesn't want to visit.

10/29/2008 5:01:44 PM

You do realize that America was founded on the ideals of conservatives. If Obama wins America will be much more like Europe and have less of a national identitiy.

10/29/2008 5:20:08 PM

less of a national identity

L-O-FUCKING-L

10/29/2008 5:23:37 PM

Yeah, I remember when I was little, we actually despised socialism. I guess times have changed...

10/29/2008 5:24:14 PM

Quote :

"You do realize that America was founded on the ideals of conservatives."

Haha are you kidding?

Since when were conservatives interested in drastically disrupting the status quo and then choosing to write their new constitution on the principles of the Enlightenment, and unparalleled liberal viewpoint on freedom and acceptance? The founding fathers would vomit at the thought of what modern conservatives have done to the principles of freedom and justice, and their rejection of intellectualism and reason for blind ideology.

10/29/2008 5:33:56 PM

Conservatives believe in the constitution and individual rights. I'll let you figure out the rest on your own it isn't that hard.

10/29/2008 5:45:34 PM

^^ Obviously. I don't think the point is to compare today's conservatism to yesterday's. We all know today's conservatism is a sham (well, atleast I do).

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 5:45 PM. Reason : slo]

10/29/2008 5:45:34 PM

^^ Oh, I see, you don't actually know what you're talking about.

How could the founding fathers have believed in a constitution that didn't exist yet?

What aspect of liberal ideology is against either the constitution OR individual rights?

10/29/2008 5:48:22 PM

this is joe_schmoe's flag

10/29/2008 5:52:16 PM

You do realize that the conservatives of today believe in everything the founding fathers did. The founding fathers didn't believe in the constitution which hadn't been written yet. They believed in the principles which it was founded on. The formation of a new constitution was radical at the time. The radicals of that time are now the conservatives of todays time. It's not that hard to figure out.

10/29/2008 5:57:50 PM