My friend and I were having a discussion about all the potential big sponsors here and were wondering if there was any solid reason why we don't have a pretty big time bowl here. We have excellent facilities plenty of room for a traveling team to bring fans... it makes no sense to me. The "Tobacco Bowl" as we dubbed it would kick ass.

11/29/2008 11:40:32 PM

you guys should go ahead and choose the teams and sponsors for this mythical tobacco bowl

11/29/2008 11:42:27 PM

Because there are too many already

11/29/2008 11:42:45 PM

IIRC the textile bowl is held there every two years

11/29/2008 11:44:00 PM

The Damon's Grill Bowl

11/29/2008 11:44:07 PM

Not very neutral...esp if we got the bid. Although I've never understood how there is a bowl in Boise that they always go to. Plus Tire bowl is prolly too close.

11/29/2008 11:44:52 PM

if you argue this why not argue why kenan doesnt have one

or clemson's stadium

or south carolina's stadium

or tennessee's stadium

it just ............... ISNT

11/29/2008 11:44:56 PM

^^^^ forgot about that, but I was still comparing what we have facility wise and sponsor potential to what other bowl's have. Might be the beer talking but just seems to me that we have much more to offer than some of the other bowls already out there

[Edited on November 29, 2008 at 11:45 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2008 11:45:14 PM

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"Might be the beerDowns talking"

11/29/2008 11:47:13 PM

shitty hotel space

11/29/2008 11:48:17 PM

There needs to be more bowl games. It would help our local economy.

11/29/2008 11:49:19 PM

11/29/2008 11:49:55 PM

shitty hotel space

and most bowls actually are near a city or attraction that would make people want to be there

a field in raleigh does not qualify

11/29/2008 11:50:10 PM

11/29/2008 11:50:56 PM

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"Screw it...I'll start a bowl in fucking WakeMed soccer park sponsored by Trojan condoms, invite App State so we can be them and shut them up about the "best program" shit and we can make some money."

11/29/2008 11:50:57 PM

god damn, I really do know EVERYTHING having to do with college football. I give myself sports boners

11/29/2008 11:52:36 PM

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"The Damon's Grill Bowl"

aha

11/29/2008 11:54:42 PM

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"Because there are too many already"

11/29/2008 11:55:20 PM

I always thought it would be cool to have a trophy of some sort to go back and forth between State and ECU or State and UNC.

I mean some schools battle for stuff like axes, a jug, a boot, etc...

My suggestion would be to have something between State and ECU since Dook and Unc have their little "Carlyle Cup" already....

Make it the annual "Tobacco bowl" and have us play for a Golden Tobacco leaf trophy. That would make more sense with the local student bodies of State and ECU since we are the only two real public universities.

11/29/2008 11:56:06 PM

We could host the playoff!

11/29/2008 11:56:26 PM

Maybe a giant cock with 50 different rungs on it

and whoever wins between us and ecu gets to put a red or purple hand on that rung

[Edited on November 29, 2008 at 11:58 PM. Reason : x]

11/29/2008 11:58:30 PM

^ HHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



or a Wolf and a Pirate sharing opposite ends of a double ended dong, and with each win that teams gets to turn a crank that sends it further into their mouths

11/30/2008 12:02:32 AM

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"and most bowls actually are near a city or attraction that would make people want to be there a field in raleigh does not qualify"

I agree.

Signed,

Mobile, Birmingham, Boise, Detroit, Albuquerqe, El Paso and Shreveport.

[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 12:06 AM. Reason : why should we consider a non-bcs team our rival? kinda gay.]

11/30/2008 12:05:49 AM

^if that is sarcasm he did say "most" bowls

11/30/2008 12:11:18 AM

^^ for realz!

we are a more appealing bowl site than chapel hill or clemson, that's for sure.

probably not good enough to start a new one though.

[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 12:11 AM. Reason : ]

11/30/2008 12:11:24 AM

Red Hat Bowl

11/30/2008 12:39:55 AM

the last thing we need is a trophy to exchange w/ ecu.

11/30/2008 12:42:24 AM

Aren't bowls either in locations with typically good weather (the south, west, etc) or in domes (Detroit, etc)?

Raleigh doesn't have bad weather in December/January, but who would want to come play in a potential freezing drizzle bowl here?

11/30/2008 12:49:14 AM

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"the only two real public universities."

care to elaborate

11/30/2008 12:59:51 AM

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"who would want to come play in a potential freezing drizzle bowl here?"

have you seen the list of bowl games? who wants to go play in boise? or DC? or charlotte for that matter?

11/30/2008 1:04:02 AM

did you really just compare dc and charlotte to raleigh?

bowls are generally a packaged vacation, for folks other than 18-22 yo college students

the host city expects your fans to come in and rack up tourism dollars

11/30/2008 1:24:17 AM

he was talking about weather, as was i.

11/30/2008 1:25:12 AM

charlotte is not more of a tourist attraction than raleigh... and DC travel isn't that great.

11/30/2008 1:28:49 AM

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"DC travel isn't that great"

???

11/30/2008 1:29:42 AM

meh, even with your point

for a significant portion of the country (note i'm ignoring boise in this discussion), the weather is far shittier than it is in DC/Charlotte

for a specific example, last year when uconn made the car care bowl, it was snowy as all hell in connecticut, so coming back down here for the game was like a trip back to the fall for us

i went from pants and jackets to shorts and a vest

i also went from excited as hell in the first half to dejected and sad in teh second half

its a consistent theme in uconn losses

11/30/2008 1:32:14 AM

so what you're saying is, as far as weather is concerned, raleigh isn't any worse than a lot of the bowls out there?

alright, thanks for rewording my post.

11/30/2008 1:47:02 AM

NCSU and ECU already do have a trophy they trade.

The thing is it just started last year and since we won both times we kept it so it hasn't technically been "traded."

It's a pork barrel kept in the Student Government office with a small plaque for every game the 2 teams have ever played against each other with the dates and scores. State wins have red plaques and ECU wins have purple.

I like that we have something but I think a barrel is dumb.

11/30/2008 6:15:26 PM

A pork barrel. I guess since ECU vs. NCSU match-ups are pretty much forced by state legislature it kinda makes sense.

11/30/2008 7:20:15 PM

i don't get it though, are they trying to make a mockery of it?

11/30/2008 7:22:26 PM

Generally, aren't bowl games played at a stadium that is not the home stadium of a particular college team?

11/30/2008 8:04:16 PM

i agree that NC State should push a bowl game here to raise money for our team/facilities

tobacco bowl is a great name but probably unrealistic for raleigh. probably play it off the "City of Oaks" think and call it the oak bowl, acorn bowl, etc.

11/30/2008 8:19:28 PM

such a bad idea.

11/30/2008 8:21:28 PM

Forget all that mess...whatever happened to bands like Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, and the Grateful Dead playing Carter Finley. I would much rather be there than in the ghetto ass Walnut Creek side of Raleigh. I realize that none of these bands really exist anymore, but I have to use them as examples because it's been so long.

At least if my car breaks down at CF, I don't have to fear for my life. Just sayin.

11/30/2008 8:21:59 PM

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"Generally, aren't bowl games played at a stadium that is not the home stadium of a particular college team?"

Like the Rose Bowl?

If you want the details, check here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_football_bowl_games,_2007%E2%80%9308#Non-BCS_Bowls

Maybe a 50/50 split.

[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM. Reason : -]

11/30/2008 8:27:02 PM

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"Forget all that mess...whatever happened to bands like Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, and the Grateful Dead playing Carter Finley. I would much rather be there than in the ghetto ass Walnut Creek side of Raleigh. I realize that none of these bands really exist anymore, but I have to use them as examples because it's been so long. At least if my car breaks down at CF, I don't have to fear for my life. Just sayin."

not many bands out there attracting 50,000+ to a concert in raleigh

11/30/2008 8:29:34 PM

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"I always thought it would be cool to have a trophy of some sort to go back and forth between State and ECU"

the only thing that should be going back and forth b/w ecu and state is pleas from ecu to play us and laughing denials from us

11/30/2008 8:34:35 PM

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"not many bands out there attracting 50,000+ to a concert in raleigh"

You are right, in fact, there aren't too many bands that can do that anywhere these days.

11/30/2008 9:09:21 PM

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"Not very neutral...esp if we got the bid. Although I've never understood how there is a bowl in Boise that they always go to."

Hawaii likes to go to the Hawaii bowl too

11/30/2008 9:48:58 PM

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"the only thing that should be going back and forth b/w ecu and state is pleas from ecu to play us and laughing denials from us"

rwoody again proves that he's a fucking moron

11/30/2008 9:52:32 PM

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"You are right, in fact, there aren't too many bands that can do that anywhere these days."

not really a bad thing. Although it is pretty awesome to watch someone like Queen play to a packed Wembley Stadium (1986 show), I really hate that kind of environment to see a band so I am very glad that the best bands around today are not playing those kinds of shows.

[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 10:09 PM. Reason : ]

11/30/2008 9:53:00 PM