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qntmfred
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hello all,
as i attempt to address the issues described in message_topic.aspx?topic=538529 you may experience periods of site unavailability or otherwise unusual site behavior. i expect this to continue through the rest of the evening. thanks for both your patience and candor during this difficult time.
yours,
qntmfred

12/1/2008 9:29:44 PM

dakota_man
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12/1/2008 9:30:02 PM

simonn
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luv u qntmfred.

12/1/2008 9:30:23 PM

Skwinkle
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That means I'd have no excuse not to do my work

12/1/2008 9:30:26 PM

Tiberius
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dear god, is there not a development instance this can take pla...ha...hahaha

nevermind

I forgot which website I was on for a second

12/1/2008 9:31:53 PM

gunzz
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luv u qntmfred.

12/1/2008 9:32:31 PM

EMCE
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thx man

12/1/2008 9:32:32 PM

qntmfred
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^^^actually there is. now.

but there's only one production database, and that's where the trouble is

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 9:36 PM. Reason : i even got continuous integration set up on this biatch]

12/1/2008 9:32:47 PM

Tiberius
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lol, I stand corrected then

out of curiosity how are you collecting data regarding the issue?

I assume it's MSSQL?

12/1/2008 9:38:13 PM

qntmfred
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it is mssql. it's failing on authentication so i checked the user indices and the fragmentation is > 99% so i'm gonna rebuild them and we'll see how that goes

12/1/2008 9:40:09 PM

evan
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"and the fragmentation is > 99%"


well that would certainly explain it

mssql is for dookie shit

12/1/2008 9:46:12 PM

Skack
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THANX FOR THE WARNING.
I didn't pay $5 six years ago to be treated like this.

lol, jk. Fix this shit and make it stop sucking.

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 9:48 PM. Reason : l]

12/1/2008 9:48:45 PM

evan
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tww won't stop sucking until we move away from ASP and MSSQL... that is, completely away from crazyweb

12/1/2008 9:50:43 PM

qntmfred
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i dunno. between crazyweb and phpBB

i'd prolly still go with crazyweb

12/1/2008 9:54:24 PM

joe17669
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evan your TWW killer really worked out well, didn't it?

12/1/2008 9:54:54 PM

evan
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no, it was horrible

Quote :
"i dunno. between crazyweb and phpBB

i'd prolly still go with crazyweb"


i would too... but phpBB is a complete sack of bloated shit... crazyweb is just a sack of partially digested food.

i love how lightweight it is... i think that if it were written properly, it'd be pretty awesome.

12/1/2008 9:56:08 PM

zorthage
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how hard can it be to port the TWW codebase to another language

12/1/2008 9:56:35 PM

Tiberius
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lol, I must admit I was hoping for a slightly more interesting answer

on another note, if you get a chance can you confirm my suspicion that the transactions for reading and updating the flood control timestamp are occuring seperately?

I've long suspected that's what's causing mega ultra double posts, and if so it should be fairly easy to combine the read and update into one transaction with a return value ;-p

12/1/2008 10:01:38 PM

moron
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crazyweb is pretty quick when it's working (TWW is one of the fastest sites I browse), but it seems to go down a lot, and has lost more data than any other messageboard I know of.

12/1/2008 10:02:59 PM

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12/1/2008 10:04:24 PM

qntmfred
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^^ those are hosting and management problems

which i guess reduces to a management problem

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 10:10 PM. Reason : tiberius you're probably right on the transaction thing, i'll take a peek when i get a chance.]

12/1/2008 10:10:14 PM

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As a longtime php developer, evan it doesn't matter.

A well designer ASP.Net app will be just as performant as a PHP built one. And MSSQL, again if used properly, is ridiculously fast and reliable. MySQL is just now really catching up to it in many areas.

No reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater, things just need an overhaul, mainly the database. I'd bet a schema change and a newly designed DB to take advantage of MSSQL would help quite a bit. The rest is just nit picky feature requests.

12/1/2008 11:06:16 PM

evan
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oh, i know, i've done plenty of work in both environments

i just hate ASP and MSSQL

open source for the motherfucking win.

12/1/2008 11:07:53 PM

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12/1/2008 11:08:39 PM

Sputter
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i can't read but like one out of every 8 words in this thread


but i am glad you are fixing this log in problem

twas annoying

12/1/2008 11:14:44 PM

evan
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i'm really tempted to use javascript to remove all words on this page except for every 8th word

but i won't

12/1/2008 11:18:10 PM

qntmfred
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fyi this is probably going to continue overnight as well. i can't tell if mssql is choking on the rebuild or if it's just taking damn forever so i'm gonna let it go overnight and see what's up in the morning.

gnight tdub

12/1/2008 11:46:17 PM

GREEN JAY
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i have not experienced any wonky shit yet

12/1/2008 11:47:27 PM

Tiberius
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MSSQL is actually pretty sweet except for the fact that it costs bux

it had stored procedures ages before MySQL

I just now noticed how TWW looks like the standard ASP form designer output in State Red instead of Microsft Grey, lol

12/1/2008 11:55:02 PM

Noen
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^^^

If it's any consolation, our division had to do a full DB rebuild a couple of week ago. It took 5 days, and that is on insano hardware. So yeah, it's probably just taking a while (I know 6-18 hours is pretty common 95% case for a populated rebuilt/reindex)

12/2/2008 4:24:57 AM

qntmfred
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bttt for round 2

12/2/2008 10:19:55 AM

EMCE
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you stole my word
I am upset

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 10:21 AM. Reason : also, thanks again. you're awesome]

12/2/2008 10:21:20 AM

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Whenever i am gonna log in i just bring some bread, cheese, ham, turkey, mayonnaise, mustard, and a toaster upstairs and sit it on my desk.

I start the login process and then fix the sandwich, once I am done eating the sandwich it is usually done.

12/2/2008 10:59:07 AM

qntmfred
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^ aha so you're boxwine. i was wondering who that was on facebook

12/2/2008 11:03:00 AM

Str8BacardiL
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hah actually its not me but I am pretty sure its a TWW'r

12/2/2008 11:09:20 AM

pilgrimshoes
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well no shit it's a tww'r

but who

i haven't accepted the friend request yet, but i know like 40 of you fuckers that have

12/2/2008 11:11:45 AM

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qntmfred, as an experienced TWW user, I have to come to expect wonky shit to be imminent at any time. However, I do appreciate the early warning. It is like warning me that my peanut butter will be creamy, but a warning is nice none the less.

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 11:23 AM. Reason : *]

12/2/2008 11:23:40 AM

Sputter
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the log-in function is still wonky....



it may be my fault though cause i have such a non-leet (attempt at communicating with computer saavy folks) computer

12/5/2008 12:33:55 PM

qntmfred
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no, it's still messed up. i've been working on it little by little in between stuff at work

[Edited on December 5, 2008 at 12:37 PM. Reason : it's been a little better, but not there yet]

12/5/2008 12:36:43 PM

Str8BacardiL
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Quote :
"WONKY

SHIT

IMMINENT"

12/5/2008 3:15:19 PM

Str8BacardiL
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WTF

Mah shiyt just loaded in times new roman

12/10/2008 11:39:06 AM

ReceiveDeath
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I never had any trouble with BubbleBobble logging in slow but RD took about 15 seconds earlier

I don't really care though, I can find other things to do in that time

12/10/2008 12:47:03 PM

baonest
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bttt

this crap is wonky ALL THE TIME.

plz fix

12/15/2008 12:02:54 AM

qntmfred
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yeah, sorry. i've had other things to do lately. don't forget to bother nael about it. i do what i can, when i can, but it's still his responsibility

12/15/2008 12:01:28 PM

Big Business
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how do you bother that which does not use this site

I'm Big Business and i approved this message.

12/15/2008 12:02:52 PM

Fermat
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and for those of you that feel like exploiting the static cookies hole, today might be a great opportunity

12/15/2008 12:06:42 PM

qntmfred
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uh no

12/15/2008 12:18:44 PM

Shadowrunner
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Quote :
"STATIC

COOKIES

HOLE"

12/15/2008 12:21:49 PM

Woodfoot
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Quote :
"STATIC

DOOKIE

HOLE"

12/15/2008 12:23:59 PM

djeternal
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set em up

12/15/2008 2:59:58 PM

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