*pisses on the grave of a confederate veteran*

12/7/2008 12:22:28 PM

Sup bitches.

12/7/2008 12:23:23 PM

you better be careful

the south shall rise again, you know

...

lol

12/7/2008 12:25:47 PM

12/7/2008 12:27:36 PM

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"*pisses on the grave of a confederate veteran* "

what the fuck is wrong with you?

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 12:28 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2008 12:27:58 PM

he's just trolling

don't get sucked in, noob

12/7/2008 12:29:31 PM

Fuck yea.

12/7/2008 12:33:09 PM

as much as yankees put down the south you'd think they would've wanted to let us go


oh, that's right, you bitches needed to eat

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 12:37 PM. Reason : we could've made it alright without your manufacturing]

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 12:37 PM. Reason : ]

12/7/2008 12:36:50 PM

You know they call New Jersey the Garden State for a reason.



Not to mention Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, etc.


We could have fed ourselves quite nicely.

12/7/2008 12:39:15 PM

i wish y'all would have

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 12:40 PM. Reason : by the way, i don't really care, i'm just agitating dots here]

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 12:41 PM. Reason : lol @ new joisey being worth a shit for anything]

12/7/2008 12:40:14 PM

i, too, am agitatin' dots.

12/7/2008 12:42:01 PM

there's so much freaking farm land in NY, it's disturbing...

12/7/2008 12:44:26 PM

fuck the cottonocracy

12/7/2008 12:45:19 PM

wahhhh wahhhhh but black people are my property you can't take them from me you're not playing fair wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

confederate soldiers were fighting for the "yes" option in the debate of "are black people farm equipment?"

*takes a dump on an effigy of robert e lee*

12/7/2008 12:47:08 PM

troll troll troll

12/7/2008 12:47:55 PM

EASTERN CAROLINA BARBECUE IS THE BEST!!!!!!!

12/7/2008 1:18:04 PM

WESTERN CAROLINA BARBECUE IS THE BEST!!!!!!!

12/7/2008 1:18:48 PM

east bbw south vs west bbq south!

12/7/2008 1:19:55 PM

the best part to me about yanks acting high and mighty about the civil war is that the north didn't care whether the south had slaves or not and didn't care about the secession until the south started to try to kick the north off of their military bases in Charleston.

That's when they got pissed.

Also, eastern NC BBQ wins against all others as the original american style of bbq.

12/7/2008 1:23:25 PM

General Sherman didn't do enough

It's funny how so many Civil War historians not from the South will say "well, yes, it was a long running fued over states rights but it wasn't a war triggered over that whole concept, the slavery issue triggered it and anyone saying the landed aristocracy that ran southern states was interested in moving away from the slave economy is deluding themselves and yes most northerners didnt give a fuck about slavery but they wouldnt have fought to preserve their right to it"

And then any Civil War buff in the South is all "STATES. RIGHTS. NUFF. SAID."

West coast is the best America, burn the rest.

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 1:28 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2008 1:24:18 PM

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"You know they call New Jersey the Garden State for a reason."

The same reason Greenland got its name?

12/7/2008 1:26:20 PM

Quote :

"the best part to me about yanks acting high and mighty about the civil war is that the north didn't care whether the south had slaves or not and didn't care about the secession until the south started to try to kick the north off of their military bases in Charleston."

incorrect

they DID care, thats the whole reason for the existance of the republican party


and they DID care about secession, but with a lame duck president in power who was basically pro-south they were in wait and see mode, the firing on fort sumter did seal the deal though

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 1:31 PM. Reason : haha]

12/7/2008 1:29:13 PM

south carolina is still a scourge to this very day. everything about it.

north carolina was one of the least pro-secession states. look at the one who were the biggest proponents of secession. SC, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana. All very dependent on slave labor for their economies (and all still crappy states to this day). Economic self-interest trumped any abstract notion of federalism.

Nationalism is a scourge often used to ignore human rights.

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 1:33 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2008 1:29:51 PM

of course they cared about success, but not secession

^Yeah, I agree. I wish that SC would finish falling off of NC. It always looked like a hanger on to me.

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 1:33 PM. Reason : asdf]

12/7/2008 1:31:04 PM

aha, long night, but point still stands that you are wrong

12/7/2008 1:32:10 PM

12/7/2008 1:34:25 PM

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"north carolina was one of the least pro-secession states. look at the one who were the biggest proponents of secession. SC, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana. All very dependent on slave labor for their economies (and all still crappy states to this day). Economic self-interest trumped any abstract notion of federalism."

yes indeed, nc did not want to secede and throughout the war zebulon vance was very outspoken against jefferson davis' administration

also the idea of federalism pre civil war was very different from our view of it now, the idea of a "nation" was born form the civil war, pre civil war we were viewed as a conglomerate of states

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 1:38 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2008 1:37:41 PM

Weren't we basically told either to secede or be attacked by Vagina and South Cock?

12/7/2008 1:39:29 PM

not exactly, more like we refused to participate in attacking virginia and south carolina so we joined them

12/7/2008 1:42:08 PM

way to get my hopes up

someone call nutsmackr and tell him to post in here so we can talk civil war

12/7/2008 1:55:43 PM

YOU MEAN THE WAR OF NORTHERN AGGRESSION?

12/7/2008 1:57:11 PM

THE WAR OF TOMATO-BASED AGGRESSION

12/7/2008 2:34:18 PM

Stonewall Jackson ftmfw

I'm Big Business and i approved this message.

12/7/2008 2:35:33 PM

north carolina soldiers shot him

12/7/2008 2:36:47 PM

we always hurt the ones we love

12/7/2008 2:42:04 PM

^ lol

12/7/2008 3:01:31 PM

THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN

12/7/2008 3:07:22 PM

AND IT WILL GET A BEER OUT OF THE FRIDGE

SIT ITS FAT ASS BACK ON THE COUCH

AND WATCH THE GAME

12/7/2008 4:15:31 PM

People could find out that Stonewall Jackson was a horrible war criminal and they'd still build shrines to him.

12/7/2008 5:21:28 PM

i used to walk past his gravesite every day for six weeks

12/7/2008 5:22:14 PM

^^honestly the same thing could be said (and is said) about lincoln

thats what tends to happen with "martyrs"

12/7/2008 5:26:07 PM

According to the South - Farm Equipment

12/7/2008 5:30:48 PM

I've never met or known anyone who would either 1) bawl like a babby or 2) threaten to kill you for saying "Lincoln was evil". Southern nationalism, and any true nationalism for that matter, is a construct from a bygone era only used to separate people for no good reason other than manufactured pride.

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 5:32 PM. Reason : ^ -ahem- that's "secret muslim farm equipment']

12/7/2008 5:31:39 PM

so are you saying that southern pride is a bad thing?

12/7/2008 5:32:19 PM

^^^ Actually not at all, since his mother was white and his father was a free black man.

Second class citizen? Definitely, but he would have been that anywhere in the US.

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 5:33 PM. Reason : ]

12/7/2008 5:33:09 PM

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"so are you saying that southern pride is a bad thing?"

if you're proud of family and friends and shit like that, that's normal. you have reason to love your family or friends or even all of your fellow humans, really.

why should you be proud of an artificial construct like a nation or a nationalism? it's an archaic idea used to divide populations, stop economic and social integration, and create prejudices.

Also, friendly rivalries between groups, be they cities, countries, schools, etc., is healthy. when you would kill someone because you are from behind border a and they are from country b, that's unhealthy.

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 5:39 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2008 5:36:38 PM

i see what your saying but i think its silly to ask someone to not be proud of where they're from

thats arguably as much a part of someones identity as friends and family

12/7/2008 5:39:05 PM

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"i see what your saying but i think its silly to ask someone to not be proud of where they're from thats arguably as much a part of someones identity as friends and family"

i think there are genuine things exclusive to a region its healthy to be proud of. if im a czech and i say "i like it here, we have nice mountains", that's fine. what goes wrong is when you start defining yourself against other countries and creating supposed cultural differences. how much difference is there between a Hungarian and a Czech or even a German? Yes, language, but so what? Why do you need borders?

A lot of "nations" or even supposed "ethnic groups" in some cases are complete bullshit constructs created by outside observers. look at rwanda. there's not a hill of beans of difference between a hutu and a tutsi, but they will insist there is and kill the other group. where did this difference come from? an arbitrary divide-and-conquer distinction made by Belgium. and now millions die b/c of it. good job, Belgium.

12/7/2008 5:44:46 PM

Should Germans be proud of Hitler and the Nazi party? That pretty much defined their country for a good ~8 years at least of their history.

12/7/2008 5:53:35 PM

set em up

^more like 12, amirite?

12/7/2008 5:55:06 PM