http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1318968,obama-gun-sales-up-120808.article

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"Obama: Don't stock up on guns December 8, 2008 BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month. "I believe in common-sense gun safety laws, and I believe in the second amendment," Obama said at a news conference. "Lawful gun owners have nothing to fear. I said that throughout the campaign. I haven't indicated anything different during the transition. I think people can take me at my word." But National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said it's not Obama's words — but his legislative track record — that has gun-buyers flocking to the stores. "Prior to his campaign for president, his record as a state legislator and as a U.S. Senator shows he voted for the most stringent forms of gun control, the most Draconian legislation, gun bans, ammunition bans and even an increase in federal excise taxes up to 500 percent for every gun and firearm sold," Arulanandam said. Obama answered "yes" in 1996 to a questionnaire from an Illinois group on whether he supported a handgun ban. But he later said a staffer filled out that answer and he did not support a ban. Nationally, background checks for gun purchases jumped nearly 49 percent during the week Obama was elected, compared with the same time period last year, according to the FBI's National Instant Background Check System. Anecdotally, gun dealers around the country have reported spikes in sales. The Illinois State Rifle Association Reports gun sales for November were 38 percent higher than last year. "We don't dispute [the gun sales hike] because the numbers from the federal system certainly confirm that there is increased activity out there. We just think it's a bit stupid," said Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Brady Campaign against Gun Violence. "Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more.""

I was planning on saving up for a Bushmaster ACR, but if it's gonna be an issue, I'll probably just get a cheap AR-15 after Christmas.

12/11/2008 2:26:29 PM

Great idea.

12/11/2008 2:27:31 PM

what exactly do you need a gun for?

12/11/2008 2:28:46 PM

gotta keep the king of england out of my living room

12/11/2008 2:29:28 PM

TO SHOOT SHIT

12/11/2008 2:29:29 PM

I NEED A GUN CAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL TUFF!!!!11

12/11/2008 2:30:08 PM

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"what exactly do you need a gun for? "

one word

zombies

12/11/2008 2:31:46 PM

what do you need: the internet, games, toys, computers, etc for?

12/11/2008 2:33:00 PM

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"what exactly do you need a gun for? "

Because I like shooting guns

What do you need weed for?

12/11/2008 2:33:15 PM

the zombie king of england and those crafty canadians

12/11/2008 2:34:06 PM

Dickfor

12/11/2008 2:34:27 PM

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"one word zombies"

LOL


I don't need weed

I just covet it

or do I?

12/11/2008 2:39:45 PM

if you are serious just wait until the fudds have spent themselves poor and the prices go down again

even if obama was COMIN FER YER GUNZ he has other things to worry about for quite a while

12/11/2008 2:45:19 PM

I don't think he's gonna come for my guns, as in, the ones I already have.

I think it's possible he bans "assault weapons", which has been done before, or places a massive tax on gun purchases.

12/11/2008 2:48:09 PM

i heard there's a 12 month minimum wait on the bushmaster cause the manufacturer cut the production down to nothing because they are scared obama will make guns so expensive that your average redneck can't afford them anymore.

12/11/2008 2:59:50 PM

haha i can buy a mini gun but i cant buy a fuckin musket. i see now.

12/11/2008 3:11:28 PM

It's always a good time to buy a gun.

12/11/2008 3:15:09 PM

With all the war, economy, healthcare, etc issues on the table, anything that Obama would do with guns is on a way-back burner. Everyone's unfounded fears has already put a massive idiot tax on guns now and the dealers are laughing to the bank. Now is a bad time to buy because prices are inflated.

Obama isn't going to immediately step into office and piss everyone off by jumping off his platform.

bushmaster is shit btw get something else

12/11/2008 3:16:31 PM

How in the HELL could i play Call of Duty without a gun???!!!!!

12/11/2008 3:21:15 PM

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"gotta keep the king of england out of my living room"

i lol'ed

12/11/2008 3:21:51 PM

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"How in the HELL could i play Call of Duty without a gun???!!!!!"

soviet army foot soldier

12/11/2008 3:24:52 PM

yeah I'd say wait until the panic response buyers spend themselves out, prices freaking skyrocketed as soon as he got elected and most places are on backorder for the popular things

I have a feeling Obama is going to be a bit preoccupied with two wars and a failing economy and won't get around to pushing up a new Brady bill for a year or two, but I could be wrong

but given that nearly every cabinet/secretary/etc appointee he has picked for his team has a record of anti-gun stances and voting records or has been part of a group like the Brady Campaign, I would be shocked if he didn't move to increase regulations at some point in his presidency

He says "I believe in common-sense gun safety laws, and I believe in the second amendment," which is fine and good but there is a lot of flexibility in what his opinion of 'common-sense' is. With a vague nebulous term like that it could mean anything from just a ban on 'assault' weapons down to citizens only being allowed to own a single-shot, bolt action .22 rifle as an extreme example. We just don't know.

12/11/2008 3:26:20 PM

Guns are Obama's solution to the economy!


Everybody buy one and then one more for their friend for Christmas.

12/11/2008 3:26:22 PM

You dont have to have any sort of permit for a handgun correct? Just the waiting period.

12/11/2008 3:31:59 PM

^ummmm the waiting period to get your pistol purchase permit

here you go: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=wake+county+pistol+purchase

[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 3:40 PM. Reason : ]

12/11/2008 3:33:35 PM

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"LET'S BE CLEAR"

12/11/2008 4:33:10 PM

you guys should refer to the fumbler gun thread in the lounge for laws and whatnot.... before misinformation gets tossed around like a big blonde's tits

12/11/2008 4:45:50 PM

Hold out as long as you can to get an m4. The legislation won't be passed in a day, you'll have a little warning. ar-15's are cool but m4's are where its at!

12/11/2008 5:03:43 PM

I'm glad I got my Barrett M82A1 during Bush's presidency

12/11/2008 5:05:40 PM

Wish I had the money for an AR

12/11/2008 5:29:00 PM

You can get them new for ~750

12/11/2008 5:29:55 PM

I need to make a few more investments before I can spend the money on it.

12/11/2008 5:31:58 PM

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"I believe in common-sense gun safety laws"

If he thinks making 100 hours of community service mandatory for college students IS common sense

Then I'd hate to see what he considers "common sense" to be in regards to guns

12/11/2008 5:33:59 PM

MY GUNS

12/11/2008 5:46:19 PM

MY WEED

12/11/2008 5:50:04 PM

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"cause the manufacturer cut the production down to nothing because they are scared obama will make guns so expensive that your average redneck can't afford them anymore. "

Basically, they haven't stepped up production to keep pace with the increased demand for (a) logistical reasons, and (b) if a ban on new sales was enacted, they'd be left holding the bag (guns in a warehouse that they couldn't sell)

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"With all the war, economy, healthcare, etc issues on the table, anything that Obama would do with guns is on a way-back burner. Everyone's unfounded fears has already put a massive idiot tax on guns now and the dealers are laughing to the bank. Now is a bad time to buy because prices are inflated. Obama isn't going to immediately step into office and piss everyone off by jumping off his platform."

That's where I'm placing my bet, too.

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"He says "I believe in common-sense gun safety laws, and I believe in the second amendment," which is fine and good but there is a lot of flexibility in what his opinion of 'common-sense' is. With a vague nebulous term like that it could mean anything from just a ban on 'assault' weapons down to citizens only being allowed to own a single-shot, bolt action .22 rifle as an extreme example. We just don't know. "

1. I, for the reasons you outlined, gain little comfort from his statement.
2. an "assault weapons" ban is still completely fucking stupid. The previous one was one of the stupidest, poorly written, piss-poor pieces of legislation to ever come out of Washington--and that is an accomplishment.

12/11/2008 7:29:32 PM

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"an "assault weapons" ban is still completely fucking stupid. The previous one was one of the stupidest, poorly written, piss-poor pieces of legislation to ever come out of Washington--and that is an accomplishment."

Yeah I agree, that's why I put 'assault' in quotes. Some of the qualifications that they deemed make a weapon an 'assault' type were downright laughable and harmless.

12/11/2008 7:49:55 PM

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"I NEED A GUN CAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL TUFF!!!!11 "

12/11/2008 9:40:44 PM

it is the stupidity of people that is driving up gun costs and slowing production. like many have mentioned, i don't think gun regulations are anywhere near a top priority at this point in time. seems best to wait it out but who knows when people will stop freaking out.

12/11/2008 10:08:58 PM

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"MY WEED"

i'd understand the need for it to stay illegal if it caused shitloads of accidental deaths

12/12/2008 12:08:38 AM

what do you mean now. It's always a great time to purchase an assault weapon.

This rule also applies to ammo.

12/12/2008 12:11:44 AM

could it be that gun collectors and enthusiasts, just like all other breeds of consumers, will jump on any excuse to buy the things they like even if they can't really afford it? just like a woman will buy new shoes for whatever reason, or I'll buy new tools. It doesn't have to be a good excuse, just enough to convince themselves to do what they want to do.

12/12/2008 1:11:48 AM

I never thought about getting a gun before. but i better go ahead and get me 2 pistols and a shot gun just incase i can't get them later...

2 months later

man my money is looking a bit short... i guess i can sell these guns... they havent' been loaded since i got them...

2 months later

man shot from gun bought off craigslist.

12/12/2008 1:27:20 AM

^are you trying to say it's the original purchasers fault someone got shot?

12/12/2008 1:50:49 AM

Except you can't buy and sell guns on CL.

12/12/2008 7:05:25 AM

An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.

12/12/2008 7:10:15 AM

^ peoples behavior on the internet is a good counterexample for that

12/12/2008 5:38:26 PM

lets all go out and buy alcohol and cars

12/12/2008 5:40:09 PM

CC class january 3rd at PDHSC... anyone else?

12/12/2008 6:03:11 PM

too expensive there. look at the gun threads (lounge & classifieds) for much cheaper

12/12/2008 6:07:34 PM